Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Bee.Lists
Oh please.  It was all in light of people being anal.  

Therefore…

I highly suggest that people refrain from being anal on the list.  People can 
also go to the archives to see that top or bottom posting…nobody cares.


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Kenneth Porter  wrote:
> 
> --On Friday, March 27, 2020 4:00 PM -0500 Tom Bishop  
> wrote:
> 
>> I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything
>> that's going on in the world is it really necessary?
> 
> I urge everyone to apply Hanlon's Razor. ;)
> 
> Also, please trim. We don't need to see all that went before. This is a 
> mailing list, not a business email with CC's coming and going that requires 
> the entire exchange be carried in every message to maintain context. With a 
> mailing list, new subscribers can go look at the archives to get the context, 
> so trimming is important. Just give the briefest context necessary to see the 
> relevance of your addition.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, March 27, 2020 4:00 PM -0500 Tom Bishop  
wrote:



I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything
that's going on in the world is it really necessary?


I urge everyone to apply Hanlon's Razor. ;)

Also, please trim. We don't need to see all that went before. This is a 
mailing list, not a business email with CC's coming and going that requires 
the entire exchange be carried in every message to maintain context. With a 
mailing list, new subscribers can go look at the archives to get the 
context, so trimming is important. Just give the briefest context necessary 
to see the relevance of your addition.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 27 Mar, 2020 at 13:33:02 -0600, R C wrote:
> just to piss off people like you,
> 
> 
> you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk around
> on a forum like this
> 
> acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people, as
> if they have to be worthy
> 
> to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway), formulated
> by your delusional standards.
> 
> If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin with,
> nobody is really interested would
> 
> be my best bet.
> 
> 
> and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again.

You stated: "minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so".

> However your personality comes to mind.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> > > terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> > > 
> > > links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable 
> > > DVD
> > > as with Centos 7
> > > 
> > > download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ron
> > > > > 
> > > > What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> > > > provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
> > Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.
> > 
> > So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of 
> > CentOS 7 is < 1GB:
> > 
> > http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread R C

Hi,


someone pointed out the 'boot' iso, it's approx 600Mb, which works if 
you can connect to a network.  I used that.



In previous versions, I just downloaded the 'minimal install iso', 
mostly because it is a habbit because my network connection used to


be a lot slower, so I downloaded them over night.

I tend to install in different ways at work, just depends.  Of course 
you can get the 7.something or 8.something iso, mount it on a loop


and export it to use it as an install, or http, or kickstart etc etc..  
but if not too big, having a disk with it comes in handy.


(especially if it is not supported anymore, and you really need that old 
disto, because of that 'thing' you need to run  *lol*)



It's not headless, I have a few machines on a kvm switch,  but after the 
initial install I use as if they are.



Yeah I don't care much about top or bottom either,  if someone likes 
top, it's top, if someone likes bottom it's bottom   *lol*



I think posting on top is easier than bottom than shredded in the 
middle,   less likely overlook stuff that way   whatever you choose, 
some


just like top, others get po-ed by it..  can't make everyone happy all 
the tme.



thanks for the tip !


Ron



On 3/27/20 3:08 PM, Bee.Lists wrote:

Hi R C.

The resulting installation is smaller than the image that you download through 
FTP, etc.  When I first installed this OS during version 5, I was amazed that 
the installation took a  mere fraction of the time it took to go through the 
menu.  Heh.

Anyway, give it a whirl as it’s quick.  I’m assuming you mean a headless 
installation.

Oh and I’m top posting because it’s logical.




On Mar 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, R C  wrote:

What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Bee.Lists
Hi R C.

The resulting installation is smaller than the image that you download through 
FTP, etc.  When I first installed this OS during version 5, I was amazed that 
the installation took a  mere fraction of the time it took to go through the 
menu.  Heh.  

Anyway, give it a whirl as it’s quick.  I’m assuming you mean a headless 
installation.  

Oh and I’m top posting because it’s logical.  



> On Mar 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, R C  wrote:
> 
> What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Tom Bishop
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 2:33 PM R C  wrote:

> just to piss off people like you,
>
>
> you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk
> around on a forum like this
>
> acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people,
> as if they have to be worthy
>
> to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway),
> formulated by your delusional standards.
>
> If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin
> with, nobody is really interested would
>
> be my best bet.
>
>
> and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again.
> However your personality comes to mind.
>
>
>
> On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> >> well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> >> terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> >>
> >> links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> >>
> >>
> >> minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable
> DVD
> >> as with Centos 7
> >>
> >> download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
>  Hello,
> 
> 
>  is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> 
> 
>  What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> 
> 
>  thanks,
> 
> 
>  Ron
> 
> >>> What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> >>> provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
> > Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.
> >
> > So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of
> CentOS 7 is < 1GB:
> >
> > http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything
that's going on in the world is it really necessary? If it bothers you that
much just delete the email it's awful easy to do these days and poof it's
gone from your inbox, problem solved.

There is no need for that level of discourse on this mail list.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread R C

just to piss off people like you,


you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk 
around on a forum like this


acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people, 
as if they have to be worthy


to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway), 
formulated by your delusional standards.


If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin 
with, nobody is really interested would


be my best bet.


and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again. 
However your personality comes to mind.




On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:

well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see

links), andof course I meant the official download page.


minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable DVD
as with Centos 7

download from : https://www.centos.org/download/



anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?


Ron




On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:

Hello,


is there a minimal install for Centos 8?


What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'


thanks,


Ron


What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.

Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.

So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of CentOS 7 is 
< 1GB:

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] directfb on CentOS 7

2020-03-27 Thread Jerry Geis
> directFB project has gone dormant and awol, its websites vanished
Thanks John.
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Re: [CentOS] directfb on CentOS 7

2020-03-27 Thread John Pierce
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 11:38 AM Jerry Geis  wrote:

> I have another package (baresip) that needs "directfb".
>

good luck.per
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=DirectFB-2017-Dormant
 directFB project has gone dormant and awol, its websites vanished.



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[CentOS] directfb on CentOS 7

2020-03-27 Thread Jerry Geis
I have another package (baresip) that needs "directfb".

from baresip make

MOD:= directfb
$(MOD)_SRCS+= directfb.c
$(MOD)_LFLAGS  += $(shell pkg-config --libs directfb)
$(MOD)_CFLAGS  += $(shell pkg-config --cflags directfb \
| sed -e 's/-I/-isystem/g')

include mk/mod.mk



I tried to find with:
yum provides "*/directfb.pc" but nothing is returned.

Where can I get/find directfb for CentOS 7 ?

Thanks,

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Incorrect link in /Contribute wiki page

2020-03-27 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:59 PM Lucio Seki  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 6:50 PM Akemi Yagi  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:30 PM Lucio Seki  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > In the page https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#Contribute_to_the_Wiki
>> > there's a "Create a login" link that leads me to 
>> > https://wiki.centos.org/UserPreferences
>> > which doesn't help me creating a login at all.
>> >
>> > Should it be replaced by https://wiki.centos.org/FrontPage?action=login or 
>> > https://wiki.centos.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount ?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > LucioSeki
>>
>> Thank you for contacting us. The link has been updated accordingly.
>> Please let us know if it needs further adjustment.
>>
>> Akemi

> Thanks Yagi-san!
>
> So I was originally wondering how to fix some issues (e.g. typo) in the wiki, 
> and I ended up finding this mailing list.
> Should I report the issue in the mailing list, and wait for someone with 
> proper privileges to fix it?
> Or am I allowed to edit it by myself?
>
> Lucio Seki

Hi Lucio,

This is the correct mailing list. If you'd like to be able to edit
wiki pages yourself, please make such a request. You might not get
global edit right instantly, so you may want to start with some
specific page(s).

Thank you,
Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 two installs one is X and one is Xwayland

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 27 Mar, 2020 at 08:55:42 -0400, Jerry Geis wrote:
> HI All,
> 
> I have two installs of CentOS 8. One is a VM and uses what sees as the OLD
> X as I get /var/log/X* files ... the other is on a real machine and seems
> to be using Xwayland and I  have no /var/log/X* files.
> 
> Couple things:
> 1) The VM is using qxl driver it seems. I do not see Xwayland running.
> 2) Xwayland is running on the physical box - and where are log files for it.
> 
> Surprised its running two different ways.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry

Wayland is disabled when the qxl driver is in use:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html-single/using_the_desktop_environment_in_rhel_8/index#gnome-environments_starting-using-gnome
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> 
> links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> 
> 
> minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable DVD
> as with Centos 7
> 
> download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> 
> 
> 
> anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> 
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> > provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.

Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.

So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of CentOS 7 
is < 1GB:

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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[CentOS] CentOS 8

2020-03-27 Thread Jerry Geis
I have for CentOS 8 - totem and totem-pl-parser installed - but I cannot
find the -devel packages for CentOS 8. Where are they ?

Thanks,

Jerry
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[CentOS] CentOS 8 two installs one is X and one is Xwayland

2020-03-27 Thread Jerry Geis
HI All,

I have two installs of CentOS 8. One is a VM and uses what sees as the OLD
X as I get /var/log/X* files ... the other is on a real machine and seems
to be using Xwayland and I  have no /var/log/X* files.

Couple things:
1) The VM is using qxl driver it seems. I do not see Xwayland running.
2) Xwayland is running on the physical box - and where are log files for it.

Surprised its running two different ways.

Thanks,

Jerry
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