Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7/8s EOL : infrastructure impacts (please read)

2024-03-18 Thread Aleksandar Ivanisevic


> On 18. Mar 2024, at 08:53, Fabian Arrotin  wrote:
> 
> On 18/03/2024 08:43, Aleksandar Ivanisevic wrote:
>> Hi,
>> do we know what happens with the images at major hyperscalers and when? I’m 
>> interested specifically about GCP. Who is in charge of centos-cloud project 
>> in GCP? You or Google?
>> $ gcloud compute images describe centos-stream-8-v20240312 --project 
>> centos-cloud
> 
> AFAIK, the team building CentOS Stream doesn't push to google cloud.
> From the artifacts list, I see they push to AWS the built AMIs but not Google 
> Cloud.
> As generic cloud images are pushed to 
> https://cloud.centos.org/centos/8-stream/ , maybe (?) there is a process at 
> the cloud provider side that just looks there and import such images ?

Images in Google are definitely not generic, they have google stuff 
preconfigured, i.e. DNS, gcloud, custom google scripts that fetch from instance 
metadata etc.

> I'll let someone from that team answer here though, in case there is a 
> process I'm not aware of, and not visible from the actual push process :)
> 

I’ve also asked Google support, let's see.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7/8s EOL : infrastructure impacts (please read)

2024-03-18 Thread Fabian Arrotin

On 18/03/2024 08:43, Aleksandar Ivanisevic wrote:

Hi,

do we know what happens with the images at major hyperscalers and when? I’m 
interested specifically about GCP. Who is in charge of centos-cloud project in 
GCP? You or Google?

$ gcloud compute images describe centos-stream-8-v20240312 --project 
centos-cloud


AFAIK, the team building CentOS Stream doesn't push to google cloud.
From the artifacts list, I see they push to AWS the built AMIs but not 
Google Cloud.
As generic cloud images are pushed to 
https://cloud.centos.org/centos/8-stream/ , maybe (?) there is a process 
at the cloud provider side that just looks there and import such images ?


I'll let someone from that team answer here though, in case there is a 
process I'm not aware of, and not visible from the actual push process :)


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7/8s EOL : infrastructure impacts (please read)

2024-03-18 Thread Aleksandar Ivanisevic
Hi,

do we know what happens with the images at major hyperscalers and when? I’m 
interested specifically about GCP. Who is in charge of centos-cloud project in 
GCP? You or Google?

$ gcloud compute images describe centos-stream-8-v20240312 --project 
centos-cloud
architecture: X86_64
archiveSizeBytes: '7072654848'
creationTimestamp: '2024-03-12T11:46:50.983-07:00'
description: CentOS, CentOS, Stream 8, x86_64 built on 20240312
diskSizeGb: '20'
family: centos-stream-8
guestOsFeatures:
- type: UEFI_COMPATIBLE
- type: VIRTIO_SCSI_MULTIQUEUE
- type: SEV_CAPABLE
- type: GVNIC
id: '1486194601799523829'
kind: compute#image
labelFingerprint: 42WmSpB8rSM=
licenseCodes:
- '3197331720697687881'
licenses:
- 
https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/centos-cloud/global/licenses/centos-stream
name: centos-stream-8-v20240312
rawDisk:
  containerType: TAR
  source: ''
selfLink: 
https://www.googleapis.com/compute/v1/projects/centos-cloud/global/images/centos-stream-8-v20240312
sourceType: RAW
status: READY
storageLocations:
- eu
- asia
- us


> On 18. Mar 2024, at 08:28, Fabian Arrotin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As you're all aware (we sent multiple mails in the last year about this), 
> CentOS 7 and Stream 8 will go EOL soon : 
> https://blog.centos.org/2023/04/end-dates-are-coming-for-centos-stream-8-and-centos-linux-7/
> 
> Let's lists some things that will happen on the CentOS Infrastructure as 
> we'll be approching (or passed) these dates :
> 
> # CentOS 7/8s content itself
> Usual process : content will be archived to https://vault.centos.org and 
> removed from mirror.centos.org completely, with just a simple readme file 
> dropped here (for example http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/readme for 
> already EOL'ed version). Worth knowing that some SIGs are still building for 
> RHEL8, still supported for SIGs through https://cbs.centos.org so such kind 
> of content will continue to be available there as long as SIGs can build 
> against/for it
> 
> # CBS/koji (https://cbs.centos.org)
> No impact on CBS env itself ( not running centos 7 nor 8s for a long time 
> now) but the various build tag reflecting centos 7 and 8s will be locked so 
> that nobody would be able to build content anymore : that would even be 
> impossible as content itself will have been removed from mirror.centos.org 
> (internally used for cbs build tags)
> 
> # CentOS Forums (https://forums.centos.org) :
> still running on centos 7 and even if that's easy to migrate to 
> newer/supported EL version, it was decided to just shutdown the service 
> (based on discussion with the actual moderation team). An option (to be 
> announced on forums.centos.org ?) is to eventually start moving 
> thread/discussions on Fedora discourse (There is already a CentOS category 
> there : https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/neighbors/centos/71)
> So the plan is just to shutdown forums.centos.org and remove A/ records 
> from DNS
> 
> # mirrorlist.centos.org service :
> Starting from Stream 9 (and above), deployed CentOS instance ares using 
> Fedora infra mirrormanager instance for metalink= instead of mirrorlist= in 
> .repo files. We'll just decommission our mirror crawler (also running with a 
> mix of perl/python2 code), so not validating any mirror for legacy/EOL 
> releases. mirrorlist.centos.org A/ records will be removed in the 
> following weeks after c7 will be EOL'ed.
> That means that people still running CentOS 7 or 8-stream will not have 
> functional yum/dnf stack, except if they point to either vault or have 
> internal mirror but at least people would be aware that distro itself is EOL 
> and that they shouldn't expect to receive any update anymore
> 
> # CentOS mailing-lists
> Currently running on mailman2 stack, on top of CentOS 7 linux : there is WIP 
> to port everything to up2date mailman3 stack, actually packaged for EPEL9.
> We have successfully imported archives into mailman3 and same for lists 
> config but let's start a different/separate thread to discuss changes (like 
> renaming lists, see next coming thread)
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
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[CentOS] CentOS 7/8s EOL : infrastructure impacts (please read)

2024-03-18 Thread Fabian Arrotin

Hi all,

As you're all aware (we sent multiple mails in the last year about 
this), CentOS 7 and Stream 8 will go EOL soon : 
https://blog.centos.org/2023/04/end-dates-are-coming-for-centos-stream-8-and-centos-linux-7/


Let's lists some things that will happen on the CentOS Infrastructure as 
we'll be approching (or passed) these dates :


# CentOS 7/8s content itself
Usual process : content will be archived to https://vault.centos.org and 
removed from mirror.centos.org completely, with just a simple readme 
file dropped here (for example http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/readme 
for already EOL'ed version). Worth knowing that some SIGs are still 
building for RHEL8, still supported for SIGs through 
https://cbs.centos.org so such kind of content will continue to be 
available there as long as SIGs can build against/for it


# CBS/koji (https://cbs.centos.org)
No impact on CBS env itself ( not running centos 7 nor 8s for a long 
time now) but the various build tag reflecting centos 7 and 8s will be 
locked so that nobody would be able to build content anymore : that 
would even be impossible as content itself will have been removed from 
mirror.centos.org (internally used for cbs build tags)


# CentOS Forums (https://forums.centos.org) :
still running on centos 7 and even if that's easy to migrate to 
newer/supported EL version, it was decided to just shutdown the service 
(based on discussion with the actual moderation team). An option (to be 
announced on forums.centos.org ?) is to eventually start moving 
thread/discussions on Fedora discourse (There is already a CentOS 
category there : https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/neighbors/centos/71)
So the plan is just to shutdown forums.centos.org and remove A/ 
records from DNS


# mirrorlist.centos.org service :
Starting from Stream 9 (and above), deployed CentOS instance ares using 
Fedora infra mirrormanager instance for metalink= instead of mirrorlist= 
in .repo files. We'll just decommission our mirror crawler (also running 
with a mix of perl/python2 code), so not validating any mirror for 
legacy/EOL releases. mirrorlist.centos.org A/ records will be 
removed in the following weeks after c7 will be EOL'ed.
That means that people still running CentOS 7 or 8-stream will not have 
functional yum/dnf stack, except if they point to either vault or have 
internal mirror but at least people would be aware that distro itself is 
EOL and that they shouldn't expect to receive any update anymore


# CentOS mailing-lists
Currently running on mailman2 stack, on top of CentOS 7 linux : there is 
WIP to port everything to up2date mailman3 stack, actually packaged for 
EPEL9.
We have successfully imported archives into mailman3 and same for lists 
config but let's start a different/separate thread to discuss changes 
(like renaming lists, see next coming thread)


Kind Regards,

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The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org
gpg key: 17F3B7A1 | @arrfab[@fosstodon.org]


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