[CentOS] pgbouncer.pid Permissions on CentOS 7
I’ve installed pgbouncer on CentOS7 and it’s reliant upon a .pid file: 2020-07-31 04:58:34.082 EDT [3682] DEBUG parse_ini_file: 'logfile' = '/var/log/pgbouncer/pgbouncer.log' 2020-07-31 04:58:34.082 EDT [3682] DEBUG parse_ini_file: 'logfile' = '/var/log/pgbouncer/pgbouncer.log' ok:1 2020-07-31 04:58:34.082 EDT [3682] DEBUG parse_ini_file: 'pidfile' = '/var/run/pgbouncer/pgbouncer.pid' 2020-07-31 04:58:34.082 EDT [3682] DEBUG parse_ini_file: 'pidfile' = '/var/run/pgbouncer/pgbouncer.pid' ok:1 However the service isn’t starting because the ownership of the parent directory, pgbouncer:pgbouncer results in some permissions issues: 2020-07-31 04:58:34.089 EDT [3682] FATAL could not open pidfile '/var/run/pgbouncer/pgbouncer.pid': Permission denied /var/run/ has special flushing behaviour which I want to retain, but I need to get around this permission issue. Changing ownership on this directory just results in an automatic ownership set by the service, so that’s not an option. - Is there another location that can achieve this? - Is there any other way to solve this? I can’t find anything online, other than the same permissions issue for .pid files in this location. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install
Then I care that others stop harassing people on remedial stuff. Because I care. So that means you need to follow suit. It’s like being married. > On Mar 28, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Leon Fauster via CentOS > wrote: > > This is valid as also that somebody cares is valid. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install
Oh please. It was all in light of people being anal. Therefore… I highly suggest that people refrain from being anal on the list. People can also go to the archives to see that top or bottom posting…nobody cares. > On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote: > > --On Friday, March 27, 2020 4:00 PM -0500 Tom Bishop > wrote: > >> I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything >> that's going on in the world is it really necessary? > > I urge everyone to apply Hanlon's Razor. ;) > > Also, please trim. We don't need to see all that went before. This is a > mailing list, not a business email with CC's coming and going that requires > the entire exchange be carried in every message to maintain context. With a > mailing list, new subscribers can go look at the archives to get the context, > so trimming is important. Just give the briefest context necessary to see the > relevance of your addition. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install
Hi R C. The resulting installation is smaller than the image that you download through FTP, etc. When I first installed this OS during version 5, I was amazed that the installation took a mere fraction of the time it took to go through the menu. Heh. Anyway, give it a whirl as it’s quick. I’m assuming you mean a headless installation. Oh and I’m top posting because it’s logical. > On Mar 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, R C wrote: > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso, that can't be 'minimal' Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SQL modeling tool for CentOS 7
Sequel ORM > On Feb 16, 2020, at 7:28 PM, H wrote: > > I am looking for an open-source SQL modeling tool to use with MySQL, MariaDB > and PostgreSQL. Does anyone have a favorite? Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] browsers slowing Centos 7 installation to a crawl
Infected Chromium apps are all over the place now. They auto-install and make themselves preferred browsers that auto-start after reboots. Very bad. > On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Michael Hennebry > wrote: > > Something I just remembered because I saw it again: > When I start chromium, > I keep getting pop-ups to enter the password to unlock my login keyring. > Me no have keyring, except the metal things in my pockets. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 14, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Valeri Galtsev > wrote: > > Look, in the following four command lines executed in the shell: > > su > > su fred > > su - fred > > su -l fred > > - in all four of them: > > "su" is a command > > "fred" is an argument (wherever it is present) > > "-" (surrounded by spaces on both sides) and "-l" are command options > > This is standard terminology used in UNIX, Linux, etc for several decades. > And finally, RTFM, please. > > And also, can we close this thread, please. Just wow. No point in even posting in here anymore. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 14, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev > wrote: > > Sorry, Jonathan, that I replying _your_ message, my reply has nothing to do > with it of any of your other posts, but rather with some posts by some other > posters. I really have to say this: > > This whole thread - some posts in it that is - reminds me the old truth: > RTFM. Namely, Read The F.. (damn) Manual! > > It is really hard to help those who don't care to read the man page. No > matter how many times you repeat that su stands for "substitute user", and > that the command as usually may have various options, and "-" is one of these > options, and what is the difference between invoking command with or without > it. > > I would suggest that continuing this thread is counter-productive. Then reply to them. Is it that hard? Second, if you READ the posts, you would find that the man page, is unclear. It was referred to, but you missed that as well. It’s really hard to post things when people like you two don’t read the frickin posts. No matter how many times you post, most people just want to fluff their feathers instead of read the posts. I would suggest…reading the posts. Then, read the posts. Or get some fresh air. None of this is difficult. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 14, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 07:45:55AM -0400, Bee.Lists wrote: >> I addressed this in the thread. > > And we continue to tell you that you're wrong. su behaves the same > way when switching to any other user as it does for root. Stop > spreading misinformation. Not big on reading what I put. It’s all there. Regardless how often you say ‘su’ is the same as ‘su fred’, it is not. Stop spreading misinformation. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 14, 2019, at 6:06 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> OK I think you need to read previous posts on this. >> >> I’m not looking for any other command. > > How are 'su' and 'su -' different commands? > > If you really dislike typing the extra " '-'", then setup an > alias so you only have to type "'s' 'u'" to get it to do what you want. > > P. If you look, they are not the same. One has a parameter. My fix was to park the source into .bashrc and it now works. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 14, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > > su is NOT the same as logging in with that user ID. If you login as > root at the console, root's .bash_profile would be read. I can count those instances on one hand over the last 40 years. Hence the question of switching from another user. I covered that in the thread. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 14, 2019, at 5:50 AM, John R. Dennison wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 05:19:57AM -0400, Bee.Lists wrote: >> OK I think you need to read previous posts on this. >> >> I’m not looking for any other command. > > Please stop top-posting, thank you. > > It's the _same command_; all it is is a different invocation method > using an additional argument. > > > > > John > -- > We're not ending the journey today, we're completing a chapter of a journey > that will never end. Let's light this shuttle one more time ... and > witness this nation at its best. The crew of Atlantis is ready to launch. > > -- Atlantis Commander Chris Ferguson, just before the 11:29:29am EDT > launch of STS-135, the final Space Shuttle mission, 8 July 2011 > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I addressed this in the thread. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
OK I think you need to read previous posts on this. I’m not looking for any other command. > On May 14, 2019, at 5:10 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > > You misunderstand. su behaves the same when switching to root as to any > other account. > > su - > > is probably the command you're looking for. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
su does not load .bash_profile and therefore is a completely different application than with any other user. This one is different, considering .bash_profile is indeed used for logins for other users. > On May 13, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> >> man su doesn’t apply to root with regards to the files loaded up upon >> login. > > Could you explain what you mean by that. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
But it is different. Significantly different. I’d rather just use ‘su’ and have the login sequence trip the loading of my aliases. Moving this to .bashrc has solved that. That’s what I was asking. > On May 13, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > The 'su' man page explains all of this pretty well I think. Becoming > root isn't special, in terms of loading .bash_profile vs. .bashrc. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
> On May 13, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> First, the ~ which might not apply to root. > > Why do you think that? '~' is just shell shorthand for user's home > directory. root quite often isn’t recognized as a proper user. ~/.bash_profile isn’t loaded because it’s not a normal login shell when entering `su`. >> Second, it’s a “personal” init file, which also might not pertain to >> root. > > root is just as much a user as anyone else, albeit one with special > privileges because they are UID 0. So I can’t assume it’s just another user. >> Going from user to root (su) might not initiate a login shell. I’m >> not clear on this. > > Are you logging in? (i.e. typing the username and password at a login > prompt.) If not, then it's not a login shell. Isn’t moving from my own user using su, then prompted for password count as a login? >> >> But, .bash_profile is not loading. >> >> I have my aliases in another file called /root/.bash_aliases, which >> is a duplicate of my /home/myuser/.bash_aliases which is NOW sourced >> in my /root/.bashrc so it now works. >> >> So ya, got it to work, but knowing the cascade of inclusions is >> important. root is as important to me as my normal user. >> > > Yes. If you are going to be playing around as root, then you really > should know the consequences of what you are doing. When I started > using Unix 30mumble years ago, the perceived wisdom was *always* invoke > su as /bin/su, those where the days when '.' was frequently in a users > path and some nasty user might leave scripts called 'su' lying around > waiting for an admin to occidentally execute them. Second, invoke it > as '/bin/su -', that way you clean out any user variables and only have > the environment you have setup for root. man su doesn’t apply to root with regards to the files loaded up upon login. Consequences of reading generic man pages result in more than one option. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
OK that’s exactly what I just was questioning. The documentation wasn’t clear on the ‘man bash’ (INVOCATION) notes. So I entered my inclusion of my aliases file (it’s my own) inside .bashrc. Thank you > On May 13, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > .bash_profile will not be read when you just run "su", because > .bash_profile is read in a login shell, and "su" does not create a login > shell. > > .bashrc will be read (and is really where aliases belong anyway), or you > can "su -" to create a login shell. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
$ man bash (INVOCATION) When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior. But the reference to .bash_profile has some unclear restrictions or boundaries: ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells First, the ~ which might not apply to root. Second, it’s a “personal” init file, which also might not pertain to root. Going from user to root (su) might not initiate a login shell. I’m not clear on this. But, .bash_profile is not loading. I have my aliases in another file called /root/.bash_aliases, which is a duplicate of my /home/myuser/.bash_aliases which is NOW sourced in my /root/.bashrc so it now works. So ya, got it to work, but knowing the cascade of inclusions is important. root is as important to me as my normal user. > On May 13, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Christian, Mark wrote: > > $ man bash, search on INVOCATION Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
No, this isn’t a case of multi partitions, clusters, or anything silly. I just want a set of aliases loaded for su. /root/.bash_profile isn’t loading, and there isn’t any obvious choice as to where the loaded .bash* were loading from. > On May 13, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > While moving /root to /home/root is done in someplaces, it only works if > /home is not on a different partition. If you put /home on a different > partition you will find all kinds of weird behavior happening on start up. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
OK, I haven’t tested for that loadup yet, and the .bashrc is indeed there. I thought .bashrc was loaded first, then .bash_profile. This is for normal user. Just tested it again, and /root/.bash_profile is not loading. Tried this in /root/.bashrc: source /root/.bash_profile That created a loop, because that reverse instruction is inside /root/.bash_profile So for some reason, entering su isn’t loading its own .bash_profile nor keeping my user’s .bash_profile (expected). Any ideas? > On May 13, 2019, at 8:49 AM, ja wrote: > > I have an alias in /root/.bashrc > alias sbp='source ~/.bash_profile' > Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] root .bash_profile?
Ah thank you. Having forgotten this, I already had all my aliases and instructions in there. For some reason they aren’t loading. If I do this, then everything loads: source /root/.bash_profile So there’s an indication this isn’t loading upon entry into su. Is this normal? > On May 13, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Nux! wrote: > > Hi, > > The $home of root is /root, just copy it there. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] root .bash_profile?
Hi folks. Just wondering how I can implement an automatic .bash_profile for root. I have to load my user .bash_profile every time I get into root, and I would like a better solution. There is no /home/ for root, so I’m a bit confused if this is even allowed. Any insight appreciated. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Permissions on nginx logs
Yeah I was still having some issues so I set a cron to rsync the directory out to another directory that I rsync to another machine to, where I do the analysis. As per the “7” comment, I always listen to good advice, but usually that advice gets completely derailed with someone saying “nobody should ever be root…”, etc. Best stated, “some people never let their kids play outside”. I have a neighbour like that. So all is working, but under testing. > On May 6, 2019, at 10:40 PM, Simon Matter via CentOS > wrote: > > Thanks to correct me, both things are true, if he only wants to read logs > there, the 750 is sufficient of course. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Permissions on nginx logs
I will give 770 a try. Nobody going to flip now that a single “7” has been posted? > On May 6, 2019, at 12:06 AM, Simon Matter via CentOS > wrote: > > What's the access mode of it? Should probably be mode 770 then. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Permissions on nginx logs
Just did that, and I still can’t do this: $ cd /var/log/nginx -bash: cd: /var/log/nginx: Permission denied > On May 3, 2019, at 7:22 PM, John Pierce wrote: > > Add group nginx to your user... usermod -G nginx,... username > (Where Is any other groups you're a member of, not counting your > primary group) Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Permissions on nginx logs
Hi folks. Just wondering if I can change the ownership on the nginx logs folder so I can access them easier for analysis on a regular basis and cronjobs. /var/log/nginx is owned by nginx:nginx which shuts me out. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] email Server for CentOS 7
Thank you for the input. And to the others as well. I hate this type of chase where it seems never-ending, for a technology I can’t stand. Managing my current solution has been a problem for ages. I’m not getting any younger. Maybe hosting is the best solution, and I do agree with you about Google. I don’t trust them as far as I can spit. > On Oct 1, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Peter Eckel wrote: > > I fully agree with most of the former, except for the Google part. Google is > to privacy what a shark pool is to a carp. If possible, avoid Google at all > cost, and particularly for E-Mail. There are services around that cost a very > small amount of money (e.g. mailbox.org or posteo.de), provide a very > reasonable service and do *not* peek into your mail for advertisement targets > and sell your data to their customers. > > If you want to run your own mail server (there are good reasons to do so, > I've been running my own services for many years now) be prepared for a > learning curve, as mail is not as simple and straightforward as it looks. You > should also run your own DNS in that case, as many modern features of secure > mail services are tightly linked to DNS (e.g. SPF, DKIM, DMARC etc.). DNSsec > is preferred. > > There are some good books around (e.g. the Postfix/Dovecot books by Peer > Heinlein, who incidentally is the owner of the mailbox.org service, but the > Postfix book only seems to be available in German). Without a good foundation > on running mail servers and/or some help from experienced mail server > operators you're almost certain to screw up big time, which in most cases > means ending up on some blacklists or having mail delivered very unreliably. > > As for the software question, I recommend the Postfix/Dovecot setup, enriched > with some additional components to support graylisting, virus checking, spam > filtering, DKIM, DMARC and SPF. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] email Server for CentOS 7
Hi folks. I’m looking for an email server. I have a C7 box already with nginx, PostgreSQL, Sinatra and Ruby. So I don’t want to install PHP, Apache, MySQL, etc. Are there any ways/tutorials to set up a mail server under those restrictions? It would serve multiple domains. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] postgresql Service Blind
Hi folks. postgresql fresh install, roles, users, databases, all done. I can log in after I SSH to the box. I entered my user (myself) in pg_hba.conf: hostall rich192.168.1.4 255.255.255.255 md5 When I nmap the CentOS box, I can’t see that port open. I’ve turned off SELinux, so I’m not sure why I can’t see the open port 5432. What am I missing? It has to be something I’ve overlooked. - SELinux off - firewall poked holes port 5432 - service running Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SAMBA Issues
I have chased up SFTP since then. Thank you. > On Sep 6, 2018, at 12:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> I wouldn't recommend Samba for this use case. The way it does permissions > is like it's been grafted on from a Windows world. Fine for NAS stuff. But > for editing system files, is look into an SFTP or SSH GUI client for macOS. > > Also, SELinux requires dirs/files labeled with samba_share_t which is not > how any system files should be labeled. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SAMBA Issues
OK, got it working somewhat. I can see files and get them open in my text editor on my workstation. Do these services offer read/write abilities on remote workstations? > On Sep 2, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Bee.Lists wrote: > > For some reason my smb.conf tests just fine, but it isn’t showing up at my > Mac. The box is showing, but I can’t see anything. It gives me an error as > well. All is below. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] SAMBA Issues
Hi folks. For some reason my smb.conf tests just fine, but it isn’t showing up at my Mac. The box is showing, but I can’t see anything. It gives me an error as well. All is below. https://www.unixmen.com/install-configure-samba-server-centos-7/ is the setup I’m trying. The smb.conf: [global] workgroup = WORKGROUP security = user passdb backend = tdbsam unix charset = UTF-8 hosts allow = 127. 192.168.1. max protocol = SMB2 security = user map to guest = Bad User printing = cups printcap name = cups load printers = no cups options = raw [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S, %D%w%S browseable = Yes read only = No inherit acls = Yes [etc] comment = RF /etc path = /etc public = no writeable = yes write list = @wheel directory mask = 0770 create mask = 0770 [www] comment = RF www path = /usr/share/nginx/html public = no writeable = yes write list = @wheel directory mask = 0775 create mask = 0775 [rich~] comment = rich~ path = home/rich browseable = yes writable = yes guest ok = no read only = no create mask = 755 The ‘error’ says “there was a problem connecting to the server” trying to enter as “guest”. The users “rich” and “root” won’t allow me to even try those, with proper passwords. Any advice appreciated how I can get this working. I’m looking to open remote files in BBEdit for editing on my workstation. I have full ownership of this server. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Linux recommendations for old Pentium PC
I’ve been using it for years. I know the difference. You run FreeBSD and you install ports. The two come hand-in-hand. There’s no confusion. The maintainers, the admins, are far and few between on FreeBSD. The very reason I’m here is due to to just that. That, cannot be said of the Linux world.Your last paragraph is on point, and some people earn their “keep” regardless of how many errors they make. Historically, that’s the same for IBM and Microsoft, and everybody that employed those technologies because “IBM is too big to fail”. Well documented in business cases for decades now, something that a lot of tech people simply don’t understand. > On Aug 31, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Valeri Galtsev > wrote: > > FreeBSD ports should not be confused with FreeBSD system. Each of ports is > maintained by different maintainer(s), some of them get obsolete, sometimes > quickly, and not every software that is ported deserves in sane sysadmin's > opinion to be offered to the users. > > And the same can be said about RPM collections (which are many, and one huge > one would be Fedora's one) or deb packages collection of Debian (and its > clones). > > All in all, if one gets confused sometimes, one can get confused using any > open source system. > > On the other hand, before starting to offer some software to users, every > sysadmin analyzes it carefully and tries to predict if it will stay alive for > long time. As it is huge pain to migrate users to some alternative once the > software of your choice becomes dead... And that is how sysadmins earn their > salaries IMHO. > > Just my $0.02. > > Valeri Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Linux recommendations for old Pentium PC
I’m fresh out of FreeBSD world. Depending on the port, it can be easy and predictable, or an absolute confusion-fest. > On Aug 31, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > Thanks for this. I haven't looked at FreeBSD since the 1990's or there > abouts, > but I'll give it a look. Cheers, Bee ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos