Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0394 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 kernel security, bug fix, and enhancement update
BOB TAYLOR HAS DIED PLEASE TAKE HIS NAME OFF YOUR MAIL OUT LIST THANKS ... On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Tru Huynh wrote: > entOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0394 > > kernel security, bug fix, and enhancement update security update for CentOS > 4 x86_64: > https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0394.html > > The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to > the mirrors: > > x86_64: > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.noarch.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-largesmp-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-largesmp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-smp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-xenU-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-xenU-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm > > source: > updates/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.src.rpm > > You may update your CentOS-4 x86_64 installations by running the command: > >yum update kernel\* > > Tru > -- > Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBEFA581B > > ___ > CentOS-announce mailing list > centos-annou...@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce > > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0112 Critical CentOS 5 i386 firefox Update
BOB TAYLOR HAS DIED PLEASE TAKE HIS NAME OFF YOUR MAIL OUT LIST THANKS ...
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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> CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0112 Critical
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> Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0112.html
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> The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
> syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename )
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> i386:
> af85d2bab4fd84678522fa921ad7c65d firefox-3.0.18-1.el5.centos.i386.rpm
> 17a22cb02ee8ac264f6f5f169266443f xulrunner-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.i386.rpm
> 5fc996913fdba522974579cd9ee499a0 xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.i386.rpm
> 35c5944fa6938f15ea52081b31171c6b
> xulrunner-devel-unstable-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.i386.rpm
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> Source:
> 3cbf15ad8683b5788a970e834419a99b firefox-3.0.18-1.el5.centos.src.rpm
> 626aa5b68835c685a3e899732d5a7970 xulrunner-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.src.rpm
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Re: [CentOS] Openbravo on CentOS
BOB TAYLOR HAS DIED PLEASE TAKE HIS NAME OFF YOUR MAIL OUT LIST THANKS ... On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Joseph L. Casale < jcas...@activenetwerx.com> wrote: > Anyone here supporting Openbravo in CentOS, opinions or comments > wrt how it runs or nuances from the os side would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > jlc > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Consecutive Jobs
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice
Hi, I am writting this message in hope that you can be of a great help to me. My husband that has been on this site died suddenly Feb 4th) and I can not access my computer. He has a user name and password on the system. He has used the Linux and Red Hat to run the computer He would boot up the system and then I would do my email, documents, etc. I never thought to ask him his password or username. There is no one in our area that knows how to change the username and password on the Linux system... Can you or some one you may know help. I did find a Red Hat Boot disk... not sure what to do with it I am able to use this email so that is why I am sending this to you ,trying to find help. I can be reached through a friend if you can call me 970 208 3131. or email... will be OK also I hope there is someone to help me get on my computer... Laura ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 08:24 +0100, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote: > >From Karan's blog: > > A few of us are going to be getting together for drinks on the Tuesday > 29th Oct 2009, everyone is welcome to come along. I'll get there for > about 18:15hrs and plan on being around till about 20:00 - Depending > on how many people are around and what the feeling is - we might nip > around to Ragam ( mostly authentic South Indian food ), a few doors > down. [snip] Quick! Send U.S. dollars for 1 round trip ticket from Yuma, AZ U.S. and I will be there! :-} -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:48 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >>> Bob Taylor wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >>> Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this > >>> loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it > >>> disgusts me. > >> It is not *wrong* ... any more than your response is *wrong*. > >> > >> Your opinion is for you and my opinion is for me. > >> > >> And the GREAT thing about open source is, there is always another > >> project if you don't like the current one. > > > > Let me add: As a *developer* you are saying the wrong things. > > > >> My point is, the CentOS team has put in an unbelievable amount of time > >> and effort to build this distribution. We will continue to do so. If > >> you like it use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. > > > > And my point is: Just *who* are you doing this "unbelievable amount of > > time and effort.." *for*? > > Not for you, for people who appreciate it. I have never been paid a > dime for any work to the CentOS project. Have I said I don't appreciate it? It so happens I do. More than I can say. Have I indicated you have been paid? > >> If someone has a major problem with the distro, then they should find > >> one that they don't have a major problem with. I don't want hard > >> feelings or anyone to be upset, but if we are not meeting your > >> expectations then you might be able to find another that does. I do not > >> think you will ... but trying is certainly better than being upset. > > > > It's your *attitude*, Johnny. I'm attempting to help you with your > > people skills. OK? It is not helpful nor desirable to talk to people in > > such an apparently arrogant manner. If you did so with clients, you most > > certainly wouldn't have any in short order and possibly be looking for > > another job. > > > > Enough said. > > > Let me see. > > First, I give you a free product that people pay thousands of dollars > for. I do so voluntarily. > > Second, I am supposed to also kiss your ass? Is it necessary to insult me? I have said *nothing* to you to warrant this. > What kind of attitude should I have when you come into my organization, > take a free product, tell me that everyone working on the project sucks, > tell me that they need to work harder and get you the free product > faster, tell me that you need to have a say in how the organization works? I said *nothing* of the sort. BTW, "my organization"??? Sheesh! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > > Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this > > loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it > > disgusts me. > > It is not *wrong* ... any more than your response is *wrong*. > > Your opinion is for you and my opinion is for me. > > And the GREAT thing about open source is, there is always another > project if you don't like the current one. Let me add: As a *developer* you are saying the wrong things. > My point is, the CentOS team has put in an unbelievable amount of time > and effort to build this distribution. We will continue to do so. If > you like it use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. And my point is: Just *who* are you doing this "unbelievable amount of time and effort.." *for*? > If someone has a major problem with the distro, then they should find > one that they don't have a major problem with. I don't want hard > feelings or anyone to be upset, but if we are not meeting your > expectations then you might be able to find another that does. I do not > think you will ... but trying is certainly better than being upset. It's your *attitude*, Johnny. I'm attempting to help you with your people skills. OK? It is not helpful nor desirable to talk to people in such an apparently arrogant manner. If you did so with clients, you most certainly wouldn't have any in short order and possibly be looking for another job. Enough said. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:40 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Ned Slider wrote: > > Marcus Moeller wrote: > >> Dear Russ, [huge snip] > Look ... if you understand how build work, and I know you do, then you > understand that one can not release updates that are built on 4.8 > without releasing 4.8. > > If you need the updates faster, feel free to pay Redhat for them. > > > There - I feel so much better getting that lot off my chest :) > > There are always other distros if you don't like this one ... Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it disgusts me. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 21:50 +0800, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > Karanbir Singh wrote: [snip] > > People looking for info about this and recent progress will find > > relevant info being updated on http://www.centos.org/ as things develop. [snip] Can we drop this thread now? Please? Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] python-dbus
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 18:47 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 13 April 2009 18:29:55 Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 17:55 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > During startup there is a message about a missing python-dbus. Querying > > > rpm and yum tells me that nothing provides python-dbus and no such > > > package exists. What do I need? > > > > Hi Ann! > > > > ann:/etc# yum search dbus-python [snip] > > = Matched: dbus-python > > = > > dbus-python.i386 : D-Bus Python Bindings > > ann:/etc# rpm -q dbus-python > > dbus-python-0.70-7.el5 > > > > Name switch! Confused me also! > > Now how the blue blazes are we supposed to guess that? Oops - > > Package dbus-python-0.70-7.el5.i386 already installed and latest version > Nothing to do Back to the drawing board, I guess. This business of getting a message that something is not installed when it *is* should *not* happen. I consider this a nasty bug as the error is *meaningless*. The only thing that comes to mind at the moment is something is looking in /usr/lib/python and not /usr/lib/python2.4. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] python-dbus
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 17:55 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > During startup there is a message about a missing python-dbus. Querying rpm > and yum tells me that nothing provides python-dbus and no such package > exists. What do I need? Hi Ann! ann:/etc# yum search dbus-python Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * epel: linux.nssl.noaa.gov * rpmforge: apt.sw.be * base: mirror.anl.gov * updates: mirror.newnanutilities.org * extras: mirror.atlanticmetro.net * centosplus: mirror.its.uidaho.edu * addons: holmes.umflint.edu epel | 2.1 kB 00:00 rpmforge | 1.1 kB 00:00 adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00 base | 1.1 kB 00:00 updates | 951 B 00:00 extras | 1.1 kB 00:00 centosplus | 951 B 00:00 addons | 951 B 00:00 = Matched: dbus-python = dbus-python.i386 : D-Bus Python Bindings ann:/etc# rpm -q dbus-python dbus-python-0.70-7.el5 Name switch! Confused me also! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] APCUPSD port 3551 permission problem
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 14:36 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > >I need a little help on this problem, please? I include > >my /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf file is attached. > > Ok > > >port 3551 udp/tcp has > >been added to the (running) firewall. > > Are you attempting to run the agent on a machine *without* > the ups comm connected to it, such that it will receive status > from the server that does have it connected and shutdown when > that remote agent that *is* monitoring the ups suggests it should? > > I don't think so, I think your ups is connected to the server > that is running the agent. You need not add this port to the > firewall. It talks to itself over the loopback adapter. You're quite correct sir. My misunderstanding on how a firewall and the computer software may interconnect. > >My APC is recognized as: > >APC Back-UPS 450 FW:844.Kld.D USB FW:Kld > >This from the hardware browser. > > >PS says: > >root 2419 0.0 0.0 4196 584 ?Ss Mar23 > >0:09 /sbin/apcupsd -f /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf > > > >Is group 2419 the problem? What should I name it? apcupsd? > > Group? Below your gui correctly identifies that data field as > the pid:) My sincere apologies. I know better. I must have been too tired. > >The status field of the Service Configuration GUI says: > >apcupsd (pid 2419) is running... > >Error contacting host localhost port 3551: Connection refused > > You have suggested the NETSERVER directive be off, but you want > a client side app to communicate with it:) Turn that "on" and > restart it. OK. Did that. Now listening on 127.0.0.1:3551 tcp instead of Unix DGRAM. Thanks for the help! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] APCUPSD port 3551 permission problem
I need a little help on this problem, please? I include my /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf file is attached. port 3551 udp/tcp has been added to the (running) firewall. My APC is recognized as: APC Back-UPS 450 FW:844.Kld.D USB FW:Kld This from the hardware browser. PS says: root 2419 0.0 0.0 4196 584 ?Ss Mar23 0:09 /sbin/apcupsd -f /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf Is group 2419 the problem? What should I name it? apcupsd? The status field of the Service Configuration GUI says: apcupsd (pid 2419) is running... Error contacting host localhost port 3551: Connection refused TIA -- Bob Taylor ## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ## # # for apcupsd release 3.14.3 (20 January 2008) - redhat # # "apcupsd" POSIX config file # # = General configuration parameters # # UPSNAME xxx # Use this to give your UPS a name in log files and such. This # is particulary useful if you have multiple UPSes. This does not # set the EEPROM. It should be 8 characters or less. #UPSNAME # UPSCABLE # Defines the type of cable connecting the UPS to your computer. # # Possible generic choices for are: # simple, smart, ether, usb # # Or a specific cable model number may be used: # 940-0119A, 940-0127A, 940-0128A, 940-0020B, # 940-0020C, 940-0023A, 940-0024B, 940-0024C, # 940-1524C, 940-0024G, 940-0095A, 940-0095B, # 940-0095C, M-04-02-2000 # #UPSCABLE smart UPSCABLE usb # To get apcupsd to work, in addition to defining the cable # above, you must also define a UPSTYPE, which corresponds to # the type of UPS you have (see the Description for more details). # You must also specify a DEVICE, sometimes referred to as a port. # For USB UPSes, please leave the DEVICE directive blank. For # other UPS types, you must specify an appropriate port or address. # # UPSTYPE DEVICE Description # apcsmart /dev/tty** Newer serial character device, #appropriate for SmartUPS models using #a serial cable (not USB). # # usb Most new UPSes are USB. A blank DEVICE #setting enables autodetection, which is #the best choice for most installations. # # net hostname:portNetwork link to a master apcupsd #through apcupsd's Network Information #Server. This is used if you don't have #a UPS directly connected to your computer. # # snmp hostname:port:vendor:community #SNMP Network link to an SNMP-enabled #UPS device. Vendor is the MIB used by #the UPS device: can be "APC", "APC_NOTRAP" #or "RFC" where APC is the powernet MIB, #"APC_NOTRAP" is powernet with SNMP trap #catching disabled, and RFC is the IETF's #rfc1628 UPS-MIB. You usually want "APC". #Port is usually 161. Community is usually #"private". # # dumb /dev/tty** Old serial character device for use #with simple-signaling UPSes. # # pcnetipaddr:username:passphrase #PowerChute Network Shutdown protocol #which can be used as an alternative to SNMP #with AP9617 family of smart slot cards. #ipaddr is the IP address of the UPS mgmt #card. username and passphrase are the #credentials for which the card has been #configured. # #UPSTYPE apcsmart #DEVICE /dev/ttyS0 UPSTYPE usb DEVICE # LOCKFILE # Path for device lock file. Not used on Win32. LOCKFILE /var/lock # SCRIPTDIR # Directory in which apccontrol and event scripts are located. SCRIPTDIR /etc/apcupsd # PWRFAILDIR # Directory in which to write the powerfail flag file. This file # is created when apcupsd initiates a system shutdown and is # checked in the OS halt scripts to determine if a killpower # (turning off UPS output power) is required. PWRFAILDIR /etc/apcupsd # NOLOGINDIR # Directory in which to write the nologin file. The existence # of this flag file tells the OS to disallow new logins. NOLOGINDIR /etc # # Configuration parameters used during power failures == # # The ONBATTERYDELAY is the time in seconds from when a power failure # is detected until we react to it with an onbattery event. # # This means that, apccontrol will be called with the powerout argument # immediately when a power failure is detected. However, the # onbattery argument is passed to apccontrol only after the # ONBATTERYDELAY time. If you don't want to be a
Re: [CentOS] fetchmail SSL protoco; issue
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 17:03 +0100, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > I am using fetchmail to collect mail from some secondary mail accounts, > among which is hotmail. > So far I have used hotwayd to fetch the mail from hotmail using > httpmail. Hotmail now supports pop3 access, so I decided to change > fetchnail to fetch the mail directly over pop3. > > This works, but whatever I try, I get an error message when I run > fetchmail: > > Invalid SSL protocol 'SSLv23' specified, using default (SSLv23). > Invalid SSL protocol '' specified, using default (SSLv23). > > The relevant part of my .fetchmailrc is included below (userids and > password changed for privacy reasons :-) > > poll pop3.live.com port 995 proto pop3 > user xx...@hotmail.com password yy no keep ssl sslproto ssl23 > fetchall to myuserid Try removing the space between "no" and "keep" otherwise I don't know. My gmail works with just the "ssl". -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [Solved] Firefox error msg.
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 22:31 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > > Try "sudo xulrunner --register-global", because somehow firefox believes > > > that it cannot find a working xulrunner instance on your machine. > > > > Your second request. > > # xulrunner --register-global > > # > > This returns nothing. > > Yes, but does it work again after doing that? If not - try moving your > .mozilla directory somewhere safe and try again. Firefox will build a new > .mozilla directory then. It occurred to me to rpm -e firefox and rpm -e --nodeps xulrunner. After yum install firefox xlrunner completed, I successfully brought up firefox. Don't know what the problem was, but I'm happy now. Moving .mozilla had occurred to me if reinstalling both firefox and xlrunner didn't work. This is something I don't really want to do as I don't know where firefox keeps my login/passwords. Thanks for your input. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Firefox error msg.
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 11:13 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > After installing my backup of /home and seeing firefox not restart, I > > started it from the command line with the immediate error: > > > > Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.5 and 1.9.0.5. > > > > I'm sorry, I'm at a complete loss. What's a GRE? > > It's probably misspelt and something on your disk was eaten by a GRUE. > > Try "sudo xulrunner --register-global", because somehow firefox believes > that it cannot find a working xulrunner instance on your machine. > > Do that *after* you checked that firefox and xulrunner are updated to > the latest versions: Your first request. # rpm -q firefox xulrunner firefox-3.0.5-1.el5.centos xulrunner-1.9.0.5-1.el5 Your second request. # xulrunner --register-global # This returns nothing. > [angen...@shutdown ~]$rpm -q firefox xulrunner > firefox-3.0.5-1.el5.centos.x86_64 > xulrunner-1.9.0.5-1.el5.x86_64 > [angen...@shutdown ~]$ > > Cheers, > > Ralph > > PS: A GRE really isn't as fearsome as a GRUE is, a GRE is just the Gecko > Runtime Environment. > PPS: Depending on how you have been socialized: > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)> I thank you! Will peruse the above URL when I have a working Firefox. This was working before hard drive change. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Firefox error msg.
After my / disk seemed to be failing and found many files disappeared, I decided to remove it. I moved my other disk to it's place. Long story omitted. After installing my backup of /home and seeing firefox not restart, I started it from the command line with the immediate error: Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.5 and 1.9.0.5. I'm sorry, I'm at a complete loss. What's a GRE? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT? Lost Sourceforge URL
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 15:05 -0800, Scott Silva wrote: > on 1-13-2009 11:51 AM Bob Taylor spake the following: > > Good morning/afternoon, > > > > I seem to have lost the repodata for sourceforge. I do not remember > > where I got the repodata from. Could someone give me a URL please? I gotta just *think* more before I write. Sheesh! What I meant to say was I seem to have lost a valid URL for rpmforge. I checked and I have the same release installed. Sooo the question is what happened? This has been going several weeks now. > https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge Thanks Scott! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT? Lost Sourceforge URL
Good morning/afternoon, I seem to have lost the repodata for sourceforge. I do not remember where I got the repodata from. Could someone give me a URL please? Thanks a bunch! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 18:46 -0500, Mark A. Lewis wrote: > Top-posting this just to get your panties in an even bigger knot. > > Come on dude, go have a beer or something and stop being a prick. > > -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf > Of Vandaman > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:02 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup > > Mark A. Lewis wrote: > > > Apparently, someone didn't get what they wanted for > > Christmas, is grumpy and feels like being the list police. > > Lighten up man... > > > > Do me a favour while I turn the Christmas Turkey. Ask this > geezer called Mark A. Lewis to stop top-posting. Guys, you're on a two way street. Having said that, it happens you're both right and you're both wrong. Happy New Year. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new list proposal
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:12 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give > > you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the > > results of doing so. > > Last time I checked, there was more than 1 newsgroup. Of course! I haven't been on the Linux lists for years. I do remember there were several. I meant to be specific to Linux lists for historical information on signal/noise etc. Sorry. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new list proposal
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:08 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > this list isnt really a general list as you put it, its more of a > user-help and support list for people who use and are considering to use > CentOS. This is my understanding of the purpose of this list. > This list is now also at a stage where the on-topic to off-topic > ratio is high enough that plenty of people who join to talk about a > specific issue, never return back to the list. I haven't really noticed the on topic off topic ratio being to high. There will *always* be people who join a list to ask for specific help then unsubscribe after getting their answer. Such is life. > So we are not really > doing much in terms of building the community, were in a state where > there is one group of very vocal people, and lost of drive-by. Is that > really the sort of situation we want to encourage and grow further into ? Are you saying the on topic posting have diminished and the cause is "very vocal people" and one subject people who are never heard from again? It has been my experience this is mostly a normal situation. It has also been my experience that there are people who just *must* attempt to take over. I would, after they are identified, just remove them from the list and blacklist them. Of course, let them know before hand. > Also, if you were to be one of the moderators - how many hours a day, 7 > days a week would you be offering to do sub minute response rates for > all list moderation ? You may be asking for even *more* work with an additional list. > The CentOS lists are not really moderated much, unless things go very > crazy, and imho it would be nice to keep things that way. Focus the > conversation, create more avenues for people to interact, and create a > feedback loop that really does work. If for most people both the lists > are going to be the same thing, well - feel free to subscribe to both. > Just consider which one you want to start a conversation in when you do > start a conversation and all will be well. If there is a decision to create two different lists, then I would strongly suggest that both be well defined as to the purpose as well as the subject matter allowed. > Ofcourse, a mechanism to move a conversation between lists, along with > auto-subscribe for all users contributing to that thread, into the > moved-to-list, would be great to have! Any programmers want to volunteer? I have said enough already. Goodbye to this thread. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new list proposal
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:02 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: [snip] Karanbir, Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the results of doing so. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new list proposal
I don't think a new list will work any better than this list. As far as an OT post I will give an example, if somewhat contrived: I'm looking for a, possible freeware, app that I know *what it does* but do not have a clue what various and sundry names it hides behind. I've tried a number of times to generate a google search without luck. Where do I go to find an answer? Sometimes to find an answer to a question you must ask somewhere. I'd rather see someone ask than go back to w*s! Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:45 -0700, bruce wrote: > say bob... > > it appears some would like to have the proverbial question "how can i do X" > removed as well, particularly if X isn't somehow a direct centos issue. > however, it might be that X is indeed a package in the centos mirror!! > > for my $0.02 worth, asking a question never hurts, and you can always choose > to not reply, while someone else might repsond with the answer, which then > might even help someone else who's later searching through the archives!!! IMHO, other than *very* newbies, I would expect people to at least try Google, then apropos and man if appropriate. My point was that the base distribution is now so large, that many people are overwhelmed. Such as: I've just installed CentOS. my X doesn't work. Now what do I do to fix it. A valid question needing a valid answer. List maintainers can do what I do. Skip the thread. All too many people just need a place to *start* or a gentle *hint*. Just *how* many lists are we supposed to be members of? Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:06 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > A bit of common sense comes in handy. Talking about something that the > developers of a component need to weight in on is definitely best suited > to the upstream lists for the component. If you hit specific issues with > the implementation on CentOS, thats different. Hm. CentOS is a renamed, compiled from source, of the Red Hat sources with a CentOS logo inserted at appropriate places plus, perhaps other changes as required. Having said that and your comment above seems to leave *very* little to discuss on this list. Since *any* Linux based distribution includes hundreds of packages, it is my very humble opinion that this list is the starting place for, especially the very new people or those with little time to *really* learn the administration of an operating system such as CentOS. I would would expect the maintainers of this list to understand this. I have been running Red Hat since I purchased Linux Unleashed, First Edition, Copyright 1995 with one CD that contained three complete distributions with sources. Look at the expansion of the base distribution now. Personally, I'm *way* behind! > Random drive by surveys, and request for comments on a blog posts etc > are definitely a waste of time for *this* list. Of course this crap should *not* be tolerated, including spam. Enough soap box from me. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] model_editor.py
I have googled for this and also grepped the hplip sources without finding it. It is used to convert the models.dat file into models.xml. I need to insert my printer data into this file as it is not in the 5.2 hplip rpm. Could anyone help? I do not want to replace 5.2 rpm with a newer one. Thanks. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Kernels From CentOS Plus
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 23:01 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Centosplus's priority was 1. I had totally forgotten a special kernel > > was in that repo and no, I don't have the kernel excluded in > > base/updates. I have since increased the priority of all Centos repos > > other than base to a number greater than 1. > > I just wanted to make sure your keep 'updates' at 1. That is, > increase the priority of all Centos repos other than base AND > updates... OK. Base and updates are priority 1. The rest are greater than 1. Thanks! > Your niece Akemi Your uncle Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Kernels From CentOS Plus
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 14:29 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I found I have the following kernels installed last night: > > > > kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 > > kernel-headers-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus > > kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5 > > kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 > > kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus > > kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5 > > kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus > > > > Evidently I have a wrong priority for centos plus? I have the priority > > in every item in CentOS-base.repo set to 1. I *think* the kernel in > > centos plus was a special one. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob > > Hi Uncle Bob, > > What is the priority for centosplus set to? It must be larger than 1 > to give base/updates a higher priority. Also make sure you are not > excluding kernel in base/updates. Hi niece Akemi, Centosplus's priority was 1. I had totally forgotten a special kernel was in that repo and no, I don't have the kernel excluded in base/updates. I have since increased the priority of all Centos repos other than base to a number greater than 1. I hope there are no other problems! Thanks. Always a pleasure to talk to you! Now to remove the centos.plus kernel. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Kernels From CentOS Plus
I found I have the following kernels installed last night: kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 kernel-headers-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5 kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5 kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus Evidently I have a wrong priority for centos plus? I have the priority in every item in CentOS-base.repo set to 1. I *think* the kernel in centos plus was a special one. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Evolution & HTML
I've noticed several HTML emails that evo says are unknown attachments with a blank page on message display. Selecting Edit as New Message results in seeing the email in the composer. Anyone seeing this? CentOS 5.2. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Want to _prevent_ upgrade to centos 5.2
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 12:37 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > I think the firefox/OOo version jumps are the surprises here. We've > come to expect boring consistency with few feature changes across minor > updates. I think it is a great thing for the desktop apps to change > faster than the base os and server apps, but it seems like an upstream > policy change especially for the big jump in firefox. Unfortunately Firefox 1.x has become useless on too many sites. A reply from one was, essentially, gotta keep up with the Joneses. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mdbtools on CentOS
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 09:25 +0100, Nigel Kendrick wrote: [snip] If you, or others like you, insist on using HTML for email to this list please set your font size to 10! Thank you! Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [Off Topic, kind of] eMachine model T5254
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:41 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > On 6/10/08, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Best Buy currently has an eMachine on sale for less than $300.00 > > without monitor. I didn't see any recent complaints on [snip] > HW guru I am not. Linux guru I am not. I have a suggestion for you, > which I believe is a valid one: Take a Knoppix Live CD (that you've > previously tested on another box and know is working properly) or a > CentOS Live CD, with you to the store. Boot the box with it and see if > the HW works with Linux, before you buy. Preferably, do this on *the* > box you are going to buy, in case the HW in the floor sample and the > one you are going to buy are not identical. Sheesh! Gotta get my brain working properly! I should have thought of that. Still thinking I have a dial up Internet connection. > Sounds very cheap and I'd > like to have one too. Does Best Buy let one bring something back, for > a refund, within a certain number of days, if they are not satisfied > with the product? Dunno. I would presume yes. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [Off Topic, kind of] eMachine model T5254
Hi list, Best Buy currently has an eMachine on sale for less than $300.00 without monitor. I didn't see any recent complaints on www.consumeraffairs.com. I didn't take the time to do a thourgh search so may have missed some. Red Hat hardware list does not have one eMachine listed. I went to eMachine's home page and found the following: AMD Athlon™ BE-2350 dual-core processor NVIDIA® GeForce® 6100 2048MB DDR2 dual-channel 320GB 7200rpm SATA II 16x DVD±R/RW SuperMulti drive High-performance 15-in-1 digital media card reader 6-channel (5.1) high-definition audio They do not list the manufacturer/model of the media card reader and audio. Any hardware guru see any problems? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Low-memory Centos5?
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:12 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: > Jeffrey B. Layton wrote: > > Good morning, > > > > I've inherited an old laptop from my wife that I'd like to > > use when I travel (it's fairly small with a 12" screen). The > > bad part is that it is maxed out on memory with 384MB. > > Has anyone played with using Centos5 on systems with > > little memory? Ideally, I don't need too much - Firefox, > > Openoffice, a little Perl/Python/C here and there. I was > > thinking about using either XFCE or Icewm as the window > > manager. I'd also like it to work with the existing wireless > > card (Dlink DWL-G650). Any thoughts or recommendations? > > As others have said, you should be fine with 384MB RAM. One thing to > note - I think the graphical installer requires 512MB to run (check the > release notes) so you would need to perform a text mode install. Do a > fairly minimal install and add whatever you want afterwards with YUM. I have been running FC 3 and now CentOS 5.1 on an old Gateway 2000 with only 256MB RAM. Both installed with GUI. Only some editing of services. I have 1 Gig of swap. I currently have 1 instance of emacs, Evolution, CDDBSlave2, Firefox 2.0.0.12 and 2 Gnome terminals plus a whole lot of services running most of which I *hope* I don't need. Screen refresh is slow but not too much. The machine starts to *really* slow down after about 15% swap. All I do is logout. Oh, this is my only computer. If anyone wants to tell me to buy a new one, please send me the money. Otherwise keep your silence. :-) Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:48 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote: > > On May 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Tucker wrote: > > > > > ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last > > > month...user base is over 4000... > > I *think* Scott wrote: > > Usenet is almost dead but e-mail lists abound (you are using one). > > Same concepts. > > I know, but my point was, since we all use email to read email lists, > let's get off the old usenet etiquette, and use email etiquette, which > you will find yourself in the very minute minority that replies bottom > post. Doug, you *still* are missing the point! The *rules* written in the days of Usenet are *still* applicable today. Why? Because the reason for their existence hasn't changed. Originally there was Usenet *groups* now there are email lists. What's the difference? The names. Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: Subject: [CentOS] "yum update" did not update kernel on one box
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 09:25 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 16:11 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > Lanny Marcus wrote: > > > If there is some place I can check in a yum database or RPM database on > > > her box, to verify the kernel version that's really installed (probably > > > the original one), please let me know where that is. Thanks much! Lanny > > > > rpm -qa kernel* > > > > And: pup is a frontend to yum is a frontend to rpm which holds the > > package database. > > Ralph: Thank you for the above! I need to leave now, but I will check > that out, ASAP! Lanny Have you looked at the file /etc/rpm/platform? If it has been changed you will not get any kernel updates. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] "yum update" did not update kernel on one box
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:19 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:56 -0400, Erek Dyskant wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:39 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > > > > This morning, I did "yum update" on my wife's box. It did not update > > the > > > > kernel. I ran the command again, and there is a response that no > > updates > > > > are available. > > > > > > Check /etc/yum.conf and see if there's an exclude=kernel line > > > > Assuming a 32 bit CPU, I would also check /etc/rpm/platform. Something > > overwrote mine to i386. > > > > -- > > Bob Taylor > > Hi uncle Bob, > > Good to hear from you. So this remains mystery? You never figured > out who / what did it? > > Akemi > (sorry if this is an OT here) Hi niece Akemi. No. I haven't even tried. If there is interest and I have the time Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] "yum update" did not update kernel on one box
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:56 -0400, Erek Dyskant wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:39 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > > This morning, I did "yum update" on my wife's box. It did not update the > > kernel. I ran the command again, and there is a response that no updates > > are available. > > Check /etc/yum.conf and see if there's an exclude=kernel line Assuming a 32 bit CPU, I would also check /etc/rpm/platform. Something overwrote mine to i386. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Downgrade an rpm
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 16:38 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > Joseph L. Casale wrote on Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:42:24 -0600: > > > > > >> In that scenario, how does one force a downgrade? > >> > > > > On first thought: Force an uninstall via yum (if yum won't do it, use > > rpm), install the older version via yum (if available from rpmforge) and > > then exclude it (and probably all related rpms) from yum updating. > > > > There may be better ways. > > > > Kai > > > > > Well, yes that could work. use "yum erase package name" to remove it. > But, can one install a specific version of a package from the yum command? > Use rpm -i --oldpackage filename? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 13:37 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > My wife purchased an HP Deskjet F340 all-in-one printer last year. > > CentOS 5 includes hplip-1.6.7. I need at least hplip-2.7.10 which I have > > had to install via tarball. Is there any plans to update this package > > soon? > > Our goal is to be 100% directly compatible with the upstream EL > software. So, the short answer is ... I have no idea when or if they > will put that in a current product. > > If you want to know what MIGHT be in CentOS-6 (still probably 6-8 months > away) you can look in Fedora 9. The version there (in what is called > Rawhide) is currently hplip-2.7.12-5.fc9.src.rpm: Sorry Johnny, I was not specific. What I left off was if the developers were aware of Red Hat's plans. I just presumed they had *some* inkling. This is *one* package that *should* be updated fairly continuously for new printers. Perhaps the current maintainers wouldn't mind? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 14:41 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > [snip] > Instead of the whole HPLIP tar ball you can download just the particular > CUPS PPD file for a printer and install that under /usr/share/... and > it should then be supported. I have already make installed the tarball. Eh? No PPD's in /usr/share/cups nor my printer in /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/PPD/HP. I will get the rpm stuff from Akemi. Thanks -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 12:17 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My wife purchased an HP Deskjet F340 all-in-one printer last year. > > CentOS 5 includes hplip-1.6.7. I need at least hplip-2.7.10 which I have > > had to install via tarball. Is there any plans to update this package > > soon? > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Bob Taylor > > Uncle Bob, > > If you'd really like to use the hplip package rather than going for > alternative ways, I suggest you rebuild it from the Fedora srpm. It > is much better than installing from a tarball. Just found that > hplip-2.7.12-4 for fc8 rebuilds without difficulties. I can offer the > stuff I built for CentOS-5 if you like. Why thank you Akemi! I *really* don't like messing with a distribution. Unfortunately, sometimes what I need is just not there. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade
My wife purchased an HP Deskjet F340 all-in-one printer last year. CentOS 5 includes hplip-1.6.7. I need at least hplip-2.7.10 which I have had to install via tarball. Is there any plans to update this package soon? Thanks -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Requests for inclusion in CentOS Extras [Was Re: Gnumeric]
Changed thread subject to (hopefully) put requests under the same thread. Unless I have missed a replacement package, I would like to see gnucash included. I *think* I found it in FC8. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] What wrote to /etc/rpm/platform! Was: Yum not updating kernel
Thought I should start a new thread since the subject has changed. It seems I have lost some email. I logged out Tuesday night and couldn't log back in. I had some unexpected problems reinstalling and also some commitments. Finally back! Whew! I *hate* reinstalls! Anaconda is not the problem in modifying /etc/rpm/platform As I install packages I will check the platform file. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 15:27 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [big snip] > I'd be interested in seeing a complete /var/log/yum.log file > and the date of the last successful yum update. I have attached both yum.log files. Possible dates of interest are: Oct 10 09:14:15 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 Oct 24 05:43:29 Updated: kernel-headers.i386 2.6.18-8.1.15.el5 Dec 03 11:10:12 Updated: kernel-headers.i386 2.6.18-53.1.4.el5 I wonder if you can find a culprit? -- Bob Taylor Nov 20 05:05:19 Updated: perl-XML-Parser.i386 2.35-1.el5.rf Nov 20 05:05:27 Updated: syslinux.i386 3.53-1.el5.rf Nov 21 21:42:59 Installed: net-snmp.i386 1:5.3.1-14.0.1.el5 Nov 21 21:43:03 Installed: beecrypt-devel.i386 4.1.2-10.1.1 Nov 21 21:43:05 Installed: elfutils-devel.i386 0.125-3.el5 Nov 21 21:43:20 Installed: net-snmp-devel.i386 1:5.3.1-14.0.1.el5 Nov 21 21:43:21 Installed: elfutils-devel-static.i386 0.125-3.el5 Nov 26 05:07:01 Updated: perl-IO-Zlib.noarch 1.08-1.el5.rf Nov 26 05:07:06 Updated: perl-XML-Parser.i386 2.36-1.el5.rf Nov 28 22:32:38 Installed: transfig.i386 1:3.2.4-16 Nov 28 22:34:18 Installed: xfig.i386 3.2.4-21.2.el5 Dec 03 10:45:32 Updated: libgcc.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 10:45:52 Updated: redhat-logos.noarch 4.9.99-8.el5.centos Dec 03 10:46:12 Updated: redhat-menus.noarch 6.7.8-2.el5 Dec 03 10:51:03 Updated: glibc-common.i386 2.5-18.el5_1.1 Dec 03 10:52:10 Installed: glibc.i386 2.5-18.el5_1.1 Dec 03 10:52:13 Updated: libstdc++.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 10:52:18 Updated: popt.i386 1.10.2-47.el5 Dec 03 10:52:23 Updated: openldap.i386 2.3.27-8 Dec 03 10:52:26 Updated: freetype.i386 2.2.1-19.el5 Dec 03 10:52:30 Updated: cairo.i386 1.2.4-3.el5_1 Dec 03 10:52:33 Updated: audit-libs.i386 1.5.5-7.el5 Dec 03 10:52:35 Updated: nspr.i386 4.6.5-3.el5 Dec 03 10:54:23 Updated: nss.i386 3.11.7-1.3.el5.centos Dec 03 10:54:26 Updated: module-init-tools.i386 3.3-0.pre3.1.34.el5 Dec 03 10:54:29 Updated: libacl.i386 2.2.39-2.1.el5 Dec 03 10:54:31 Updated: cups-libs.i386 1:1.2.4-11.14.el5_1.3 Dec 03 10:54:59 Updated: gtk2.i386 2.10.4-19.el5 Dec 03 10:55:02 Updated: tcp_wrappers.i386 7.6-40.4.el5 Dec 03 10:55:09 Updated: alsa-lib.i386 1.0.14-1.rc4.el5 Dec 03 10:55:44 Updated: libgcj.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 10:55:53 Updated: binutils.i386 2.17.50.0.6-5.el5 Dec 03 10:55:57 Updated: net-snmp-libs.i386 1:5.3.1-19.el5_1.2 Dec 03 10:55:59 Updated: hwdata.noarch 0.211-1 Dec 03 10:56:02 Installed: keyutils-libs.i386 1.2-1.el5 Dec 03 10:59:45 Updated: tetex-fonts.i386 3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 Dec 03 11:00:41 Updated: tetex-dvips.i386 3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 Dec 03 11:00:44 Updated: audit-libs-python.i386 1.5.5-7.el5 Dec 03 11:02:08 Updated: libicu.i386 3.6-5.11 Dec 03 11:08:04 Updated: openoffice.org-core.i386 1:2.0.4-5.4.24 Dec 03 11:09:05 Updated: pcre.i386 6.6-2.el5_1.7 Dec 03 11:09:16 Updated: cracklib.i386 2.8.9-3.3 Dec 03 11:09:22 Updated: bind-libs.i386 30:9.3.3-10.el5 Dec 03 11:09:27 Updated: libgomp.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:09:29 Updated: libvolume_id.i386 095-14.9.el5 Dec 03 11:09:33 Updated: libgfortran.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:10:12 Updated: kernel-headers.i386 2.6.18-53.1.4.el5 Dec 03 11:10:32 Updated: glibc-headers.i386 2.5-18.el5_1.1 Dec 03 11:10:43 Updated: glibc-devel.i386 2.5-18.el5_1.1 Dec 03 11:10:47 Updated: openoffice.org-pyuno.i386 1:2.0.4-5.4.24 Dec 03 11:12:49 Updated: tetex.i386 3.0-33.2.el5_1.2 Dec 03 11:14:34 Updated: redhat-artwork.i386 5.1.0-26.el5.centos Dec 03 11:14:37 Updated: nss-tools.i386 3.11.7-1.3.el5.centos Dec 03 11:15:11 Updated: coolkey.i386 1.1.0-5.el5 Dec 03 11:15:15 Updated: freetype-devel.i386 2.2.1-19.el5 Dec 03 11:15:20 Updated: cairo-devel.i386 1.2.4-3.el5_1 Dec 03 11:15:23 Updated: centos-release-notes.i386 5.1.0-2 Dec 03 11:15:26 Updated: centos-release.i386 10:5-1.0.el5.centos.1 Dec 03 11:15:30 Updated: cracklib-dicts.i386 2.8.9-3.3 Dec 03 11:15:51 Updated: openoffice.org-calc.i386 1:2.0.4-5.4.24 Dec 03 11:16:05 Updated: openoffice.org-writer.i386 1:2.0.4-5.4.24 Dec 03 11:16:08 Installed: keyutils-libs-devel.i386 1.2-1.el5 Dec 03 11:17:42 Updated: libgcj-devel.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:17:52 Updated: poppler.i386 0.5.4-4.3.el5_1 Dec 03 11:18:31 Updated: firefox.i386 1.5.0.12-7.el5.centos Dec 03 11:19:09 Updated: libstdc++-devel.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:19:44 Updated: libpcap.i386 14:0.9.4-11.el5 Dec 03 11:19:48 Installed: gamin-python.i386 0.1.7-8.el5 Dec 03 11:19:50 Updated: systemtap-runtime.i386 0.5.14-1.el5 Dec 03 11:19:57 Updated: cpp.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:20:07 Updated: gcc.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:20:09 Updated: nash.i386 5.1.19.6-19 Dec 03 11:20:14 Updated: gcc-c++.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:20:22 Updated: gcc-java.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:20:34 Updated: systemtap.i386 0.5.14-1.el5 Dec 03 11:20:40 Updated: gcc-gfortran.i386 4.1.2-14.el5 Dec 03 11:20:43 Updated: openoffice.org-emailmerge.i386 1:2.0.4-5.4.24 Dec 03 11:21:25 Updated: gtk2-devel.i386 2.10.4-19.el5 Dec 03 11:21:27 Updated: coolkey-devel.i386 1.1.0-5.el5 Dec 03 11:21:56 Updated: esc.i3
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 12:19 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > > > If we can nail down something that changed /etc/rpm/platform it would be > > > good, as that file should never change. > > > > Thanks again Johnny for the info. The only non-rpm I recall installing > > was the cups *.tgs for my printer which I had to compile. :-( > > > > -- > > Bob Taylor > > Uncle Bob, :-D I'm both an uncle *and* a grandfather. You have my permission to address me as Uncle Bob. :-) > I apologize in advance for asking this question but... Are you > certain that you did not edit / touch the /etc/rpm/platform file > yourself? Prior to my changing i386 to i686 as previously stated. Frankly, I was unaware of the contents of /etc/rpm as I hadn't had time. Sigh! Uncle Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > > OK! Thanks Johnny. You just confirmed a bug here. Now I will, as time > > allows, see if I can discover why /etc/rpm/platform is incorrect. Since > > the file is in an rpm directory, shall I look at rpm? I promise *not* to > > begin another thread like this one! I'm a nice guy, really! > > > > This file (/etc/rpm/platform) is created by anaconda on install and is > NOT owned by RPM or any other package. It is USED by rpm to determine > your real arch where there are possibly multiple arches (based on your > processor type). > > I[3,4,5,6]86 packages can coexist with each other in an i386 distro > install, however you can not install an i386 package and another > i[4,5,6]86 package with the same Name and Epoch-Version-Release (EVR) at > the same time. On Red Hat based distros, /etc/rpm/platform is used to > define the main arch where more than one (based on the processor) could > be main. > > Also I[3,4,5,6]86 packages can exist in an x86_64 arch install and > I[3,4,5,6]86 packages can exist in an ia64 arch install. These (x86_64 > and ia64) are 64bit/32bit library (aka multilib) arches. They can have > lib64 and lib directories and have both an i[3,4,5,6]86 package and an > x86_64 (or ia64) package installed that have the same Name and EVR. > > Other examples of 32bit/64bit (multilib) arches are s390 and s390x, ppc > and ppc64, and finally sparc and sparc64. In each of these you can have > a 32bit (lib) and a 64bit (lib64) package of the same Name and EVR > installed at the same time. > > > So, on x86_64, you CAN have glibc.x86_64 and glibc.i686. On sparc, you > CAN have glibc.sparc and glibc.sparc64 .. but on i386 you CAN NOT have > glibc.i386 and glibc.i686. > > I can think of nothing that will (or should) change that file > (/etc/rpm/platform) except running anaconda (the installer from a CentOS > CD / DVD). > > If something does modify that file it is definitely a bug. Well, if you > are BUILDING files with rpmbuild then sometimes on some of the multilib > arches you might want to change /etc/rpm/platform to get specific > results ... but that would be a controlled process and I know of no > packages that do it automatically. > > Some of the links by Ross seem to indicate that unixODBC-devel might > impact /etc/rpm/platform ... however the version i386 version in > centos-5 does not seem to as I have installed it several times for > testing and it did not change my /etc/rpm/platform. > > I have looked at several i386 machines, and all of them have an > /etc/rpm/platform that is created on the install date, none of them have > a file that has been modified. > > If we can nail down something that changed /etc/rpm/platform it would be > good, as that file should never change. Thanks again Johnny for the info. The only non-rpm I recall installing was the cups *.tgs for my printer which I had to compile. :-( -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 14:16 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 08:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> what happens if you edit /etc/rpm/platform and change it too: > >> > >> i686-redhat-linux > > > > Nothing. > > > > I downloaded the current rpm file this morning and ran rpm -Uvh > > --force /home/brtaylor/rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386.rpm. > > > > Rpm seems to behave oddly. I had downloaded the current kernel rpm and > > installed it with the command rpm -ivh --ignorearch [file] successfully. > > I can not remove it with the command rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13 but > > can if I add .el5 to the end it does. Before I deleted it I ran the > > command rpm -ql kernel and all three kernels rpm files were listed > > including the kernel rpm which rpm -e said wasn't installed. This > > doesn't make sense to me. > > > > I have done the following: > > > > rpm -Uvh --force /home/brtaylor/rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386.rpm > > edit /etc/rpm/platform to i686-redhat-linux > > rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 > > yum clean all > > yum upgrade kernel > > returned Installed: kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 > > Complete! > > > > It looks like the problem may be in rpm after 4.4.2-37. Before I go to > > the rpm people, I need to confer with Ray Van Dolson who says his is the > > same as mine and he has no problem updating kernels. After Ray and I > > resolve this issue, I will send a last email to the list hopefully > > ending this subject with the resolution to this problem. > > > > The problem was most likely the /etc/rpm/platform I agree. > if it is i386 and not i686 then is will not allow i686 RPMS to be installed. > > That file should only be updated IF anaconda does an install or upgrade. > > It should only be i386 of it is installed on a pentium classic processor > (or equivalent). I have a Pentium Classic or equivalent? I want to verify if I've found a bug or ? in rpm. After thought: I seem to be running OK on the i686 kernel. It would seem to me, if I *do* have one of those, it would be a mistake to put i386 in /etc/rpm/platform. > That is the only cause of the "incompatible arch". > > Nothing in centos except an install/upgrade via anaconda should ever > tough that file, so once you change it, it should remain changed. > > Reboot a couple times and makes sure it (/etc/rpm/platform) stays the same. Will do as soon as I have a chance. This has caused me to lose much time. > If it changes we need to figure out why. I will post a message if so. Better not! :-) -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel - Solved!
The problem which began this long an laborious thread has been solved with an edit of /etc/rpm/platform replacing i386 with i686. Whatever created this file thinks my cpu is not an i686. Many thanks to all who helped track this down! Hitler is dead. End of thread! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 10:33 -0800, Scott Silva wrote: [snip] > >>> The contents of, > >>> > >>> # cat /etc/rpm/platform > >> i386-redhat-linux > > > > Good > Shouldn't this be i686-redhat-linux ? Bingo! Better late than never! :-) That is exactly the problem! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 17:30 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip] > # rpm -qf /etc/rpm/platform rpm -qf /etc/rpm/platform file /etc/rpm/platform is not owned by any package > On a default environment it should come back that no package owns > that file. If a package does own it then there is the culprit. [snip] -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 16:09 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: [snip] > > Would anaconda even allow C5 to install on such a class cpu? > > no ... and we have no i386 kernel ... no idea how that file got changed, > but the only code to make it happen would be a pentium classic > processor. C5 would just die, as there is not one. (c4 too) OK! Thanks Johnny. You just confirmed a bug here. Now I will, as time allows, see if I can discover why /etc/rpm/platform is incorrect. Since the file is in an rpm directory, shall I look at rpm? I promise *not* to begin another thread like this one! I'm a nice guy, really! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 15:27 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip] > I think there may be a case or two of bad packages updating that file > I believe these are some dumb Mozilla plugins though, googling got > me these: > > http://dnmouse.webs.com/playdvdsmore.htm > > and here: > > http://www.fedorafaq.org/ > > The OP had a lot of kitchen sinks installed maybe a broken plugin > was the cause of all that grief. Probably right around the time > he installed that repo and things stopped working. I presume this comment is in regards to the above references? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 11:51 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: [snip] > > It looks like the problem may be in rpm after 4.4.2-37. Before I go to > > the rpm people, I need to confer with Ray Van Dolson who says his is the > > same as mine and he has no problem updating kernels. After Ray and I > > resolve this issue, I will send a last email to the list hopefully > > ending this subject with the resolution to this problem. > > > > Bob, so it appears the above did work? It did. > I don't recall what exactly I said was the same on my system as > yours... but, my /etc/rpm/platform is: > Mine reports the same as yours and I have no problem updating kernels. I believe this was in reference to uname -imp which mine results in i686 i686 i386 Notice the processor. By all accounts it should be i686. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 11:22 -0800, Garrick Staples wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:19:36AM -0800, Bob Taylor alleged: > > I can not remove it with the command rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13 but > > can if I add .el5 to the end it does. Before I deleted it I ran the > > That's correct. 53.1.13 is the not same as 53.1.13.el5. > > The version is 2.6.18 and the release is 53.1.13.el5. You can specify the > version or version-release, but not different substrings. Ah! Mystery resolved. Thanks! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel [personal]
Ray Van Dolson please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 08:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: [snip] > what happens if you edit /etc/rpm/platform and change it too: > > i686-redhat-linux Nothing. I downloaded the current rpm file this morning and ran rpm -Uvh --force /home/brtaylor/rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386.rpm. Rpm seems to behave oddly. I had downloaded the current kernel rpm and installed it with the command rpm -ivh --ignorearch [file] successfully. I can not remove it with the command rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13 but can if I add .el5 to the end it does. Before I deleted it I ran the command rpm -ql kernel and all three kernels rpm files were listed including the kernel rpm which rpm -e said wasn't installed. This doesn't make sense to me. I have done the following: rpm -Uvh --force /home/brtaylor/rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386.rpm edit /etc/rpm/platform to i686-redhat-linux rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 yum clean all yum upgrade kernel returned Installed: kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 Complete! It looks like the problem may be in rpm after 4.4.2-37. Before I go to the rpm people, I need to confer with Ray Van Dolson who says his is the same as mine and he has no problem updating kernels. After Ray and I resolve this issue, I will send a last email to the list hopefully ending this subject with the resolution to this problem. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 22:46 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:19 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > > >> Bob Taylor wrote: > >> > > > > [snip] > > > > > >>> uname -imp: > >>> > >>> i686 i686 i386 > >>> > >>> Don't know why the kernel says it's an i386. Kernel bug? Gateway > >>> purchase? > >>> > >> i386 is the architecture, in there you have processor flavors > >> which can be i386 (generic), i486, i586 and i686 tuned. C5 only > >> carries the generic i386 (default compile options) and the i686 > >> tuned binaries, i586 tuned binaries are no longer being supported > >> after C4. > >> > > > > What does this say my cpu is: > > > > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > > cpu family : 6 > > model : 5 > > model name : Pentium II (Deschutes) > > > > [snip] > > > > > >> The uname output is valid for your install, the question now is > >> why rpm refuses to install valid architecture binaries on your > >> system. > >> > > > > So, my cpu is not an i686? > > > > a P-II should be. i686 is everything from the Pentium Pro onwards, > including P-II, P-III, P4, core, and the various clones. it does NOT > include the original Pentiums (p5 and p54) or 'pentium w/ MMX', those > are i586. What is model : 5 above compared to p5? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:25 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip] > Then verify your Internet connection works properly > with yum (are you behind a proxy server?), and see what that does. Dunno about proxy server. I'm behind an HughesNet satellite modem. Most likely that thingy that changes your IP periodically (my database retrieval program is totally busted!). :-) -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:19 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > > uname -imp: > > > > i686 i686 i386 > > > > Don't know why the kernel says it's an i386. Kernel bug? Gateway > > purchase? > > i386 is the architecture, in there you have processor flavors > which can be i386 (generic), i486, i586 and i686 tuned. C5 only > carries the generic i386 (default compile options) and the i686 > tuned binaries, i586 tuned binaries are no longer being supported > after C4. What does this say my cpu is: vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 5 model name : Pentium II (Deschutes) [snip] > The uname output is valid for your install, the question now is > why rpm refuses to install valid architecture binaries on your > system. So, my cpu is not an i686? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:43 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > Garrick Staples wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:25:32AM -0500, Ross S. W. Walker alleged: > > > Bob Taylor wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 23:44 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > > > > The contents of, > > > > > > > > > > # cat /etc/rpm/platform > > > > > > > > i386-redhat-linux > > > > > > Good > > > > Isn't that the problem? All of my machines say i686, athlon, > > ia32e, x86_64, > > etc. None of them say i386. > > Ooops, I saw i686 when I looked the first time, yes, this should > be i686-redhat-linux. Good catch. > > Bob, can you try manually changing this to say i686-redhat-linux, > I believe this is auto-generated at boot so it isn't a permanent > fix, but lets see if it updates after this by booting into the > older kernel (may need to manually change this file again), > removing the newer kernel and then try a 'yum update'. Will try this tomorrow. rpm won't let me remove the kernel it installed. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 23:44 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> Bob Taylor wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:10 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Well, exactarch=0 might work around this from a yum
> > standpoint (as far
> > > as downloading the updates), but if RPM is complaining this
> > is beyond
> > > the control of yum. As someone else mentioned, taking a
> > look at your
> > > ~/.rpmmacros file would be interesting.
> >
> > It was empty.
> >
> > > Also, could you post the output of:
> > >
> > > rpm -q --queryformat
> > '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' kernel
> >
> > kernel-2.6.18-8.el5.i686
> > kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5.i686
> > kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.i686
> >
> > The last kernel was installed manually using --ignorearch.
>
> Bob,
>
> What's the output of,
>
> # rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm
rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386
> The contents of,
>
> # cat /etc/rpm/platform
i386-redhat-linux
> And the output of,
>
> # rpm --eval '%_arch'
i386
> Also, did you re-install rpm by forcing an upgrade in place of rpm with,
I ran yum remove yum. I did not remove rpm nor did an rpm --force.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 21:22 +0100, Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > On Monday 25 February 2008, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread. > > Good initiative, but since the layer beneath also fails (rpm) maybe we should > start there. rpm -qi kernel or maybe bad stuff in /etc/sysconfig kernel. Where I am confused is the original kernel and ONE update is in the /var/log/yum.log then nada. I seem to recall a discussion many months ago regarding an i686 kernel being installed from an i386 directory. If you look at http://isodirect.centos.org/centos/5/updates you will not see an i686 directory, just i386 and ia-64. All rpms in the i386 directory are i386 except the kernels and very few others. /etc/sysconfig/kernel: # UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make # new kernels the default UPDATEDEFAULT=yes # DEFAULTKERNEL specifies the default kernel package type DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel > The interesting error from RPM suggests that it thinks the machine is an i586 > (or atleast not i686). uname -imp: i686 i686 i386 Don't know why the kernel says it's an i386. Kernel bug? Gateway purchase? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 16:34 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:41 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread. > > > > I agree totally! The problem is with rpm. It refuses to install a non > > i386 rpm. I have verified this by downloading the latest kernel rpm. I > > If rpm is broken, why not try to upgrade rpm on top of itself? > > rpm -Uvh --force rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.rpm > > You will need to manually download the rpm package again. > > > had to use --ignorearch flag to get rpm to install it. Now how do I get > > this flag to yum? I have exactarch=0 in /etc/yum.conf which I presumed > > was to fix this. It does not work. I have tried to pass this flag > > via /root/.rpmmacros with no help. So, why do only myself apparently > > have this problem? One other item. I made *no* changes to any yum files > > after installation except the addition of (maybe) rpmforge. One kernel > > was updated around this time. My guess is the problem started around the > > update to 5.1. Anybody have any input as to why at least one person does > > not have this problem? What could he have that is different from me > > regarding yum and rpm? Reading this I apologize for the ramble. > > > Bob, > > I wouldn't muck with any more options, try to undo the changes you > have made. Didn't make any except possibly rpmforge.repo. > I didn't see what the rpm error was you got when you tried to > install it, did you post it to the thread? > > You said you re-installed yum, how did you remove yum? yum remove yum Installed yum from my installation CD, ran yum update yum with no change. > If you did a rpm -e yum, then the yum plugins may have still been left > behind. Here is the list you provided earlier: None. [snip] > The yum plugin that catches my attention is 'yum-versionlock' enabled=0 -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:19 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > Peter Kjellstrom wrote: > > On Monday 25 February 2008, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > > >> Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread. > >> > > > > Good initiative, but since the layer beneath also fails (rpm) maybe we > > should > > start there. rpm -qi kernel or maybe bad stuff in /etc/sysconfig kernel. > > > > The interesting error from RPM suggests that it thinks the machine is an > > i586 > > (or atleast not i686). > > > > > indeed, lets add > > $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 5 model name : Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping: 1 cpu MHz : 398.296 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr up bogomips: 797.12 -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:10 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
[snip]
> Well, exactarch=0 might work around this from a yum standpoint (as far
> as downloading the updates), but if RPM is complaining this is beyond
> the control of yum. As someone else mentioned, taking a look at your
> ~/.rpmmacros file would be interesting.
It was empty.
> Also, could you post the output of:
>
> rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' kernel
kernel-2.6.18-8.el5.i686
kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5.i686
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.i686
The last kernel was installed manually using --ignorearch.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 15:02 -0500, Alfred von Campe wrote: > Bob: > > > I agree totally! The problem is with rpm. It refuses to install a non > > i386 rpm. > > What are the contents of the ~/.rpmmacros file (for root)? Empty -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:41 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip] > Bob, > > Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread. I agree totally! The problem is with rpm. It refuses to install a non i386 rpm. I have verified this by downloading the latest kernel rpm. I had to use --ignorearch flag to get rpm to install it. Now how do I get this flag to yum? I have exactarch=0 in /etc/yum.conf which I presumed was to fix this. It does not work. I have tried to pass this flag via /root/.rpmmacros with no help. So, why do only myself apparently have this problem? One other item. I made *no* changes to any yum files after installation except the addition of (maybe) rpmforge. One kernel was updated around this time. My guess is the problem started around the update to 5.1. Anybody have any input as to why at least one person does not have this problem? What could he have that is different from me regarding yum and rpm? Reading this I apologize for the ramble. Oct 10 09:14:15 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 Last kernel update. A lot of activity Oct 12-15. Possible 5.1 update during this period. > Can you include the output of these commands: > > # cat /etc/redhat-release > > # yum list installed '*yum*' > > # cat /etc/yum.conf > > # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo I removed yum and reinstalled then yum update yum with no help. No sense to include these again here. > >From these we should be able to determine if your base installation > is correct. It is *not* a yum config problem. > If it isn't a config problem then we can look at permissions and > network next. See above. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 00:19 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > > I would love this. However I don't know what my IP is nor how to find > > out. It's been too long and too much has changed. > > Seriously? > > ifconfig will tell you your IP address. Or just go to > www.whatsmyip.org or some similar site... Wow! Thanks Ray > Or, just reinstall :) I *do* have a sense of humor. :-) -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 22:55 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: [snip] > Mine reports the same as yours and I have no problem updating kernels. Sigh! So I have the same problem with rpm? It rejects installing an i686 rpm. [snip] > Something is missing. It's probably something very simple. I still > think you should let someone log in as root into your box and figure it > out for you. :) I would love this. However I don't know what my IP is nor how to find out. It's been too long and too much has changed. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 10:54 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > * Remove ALL plugins > * Disable ALL third party repo's. > * Do a yum clean all > * Revert to the default CentOS .repo files > * Revert to default yum.conf file > > If it works in this configuration, you can start adding things back one > at a time. I reached the same conclusion Saturday myself. I yum remove yum and reinstalled yum & pirut from my installation CD. The yum refused to update the kernel. I gave up on yum and downloaded the current kernel rpm. I rpm -i kernel* and received the following error message from rpm: package kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 is intended for a i686 architecture There is my problem! uname -ipm results in i686 i686 i386. It looks like yum is looking at uname -i. > Maybe you've already tried this, I don't know. It's been a long > thread. :) I agree. Waaay to long. Now what do the experts have to say about this? All packages *except* the kernel files are i386. I want to end this, please? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 06:25 -0500, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 23:45 -0800, Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > == Useless/uninteresting lines snipped = > [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag > mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el4/en/mirrors-rpmforge > enabled = 1 > gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag > gpgcheck = 1 > # NEXT LINE WRAPPED - CAREFUL > protect=0 priority=10 includepkgs=bittorrent.noarch, bittorrent- > gui.noarch, python-khashmir.noarch, python-crypto.i386 rtorrent, > libtorrent.i386, libtorrent-devel.i386, libsigc*, mplayer.i386, mplayer- > docs.i386, mplayer-fonts.noarch, mplayerplug-in.i386, aalib.i386, > faac.i386, lame.i386, libXvMCW.i386, libdvdnav.i386, libmad.i386, > libmpcdec.i386, lirc.i386, lzo.i386, openal.i386, x264.i386, > xvidcore.i386, libmp4v2.i386 gkrellm.i386 # mplayer-skins.noarch, > == > > Some of the above may not be appropriate any more - I've not looked in > awhile. Someone just said *not* to use protect and priority together. Red Hat has a propensity to remove any documentation on a package that does not have a man page. Sometimes it's included in /usr/share/doc and sometimes in /usr/lib and sometimes it's just not there. There is, hopefully *some* documentation on plugins other than how to write one. I would like to know *what* plugins actually *do*. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 03:47 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > based on this output ... somehow your kernel is excluded in update set, > even though it sees kernel-doc.noarch and kernel-headers.i386. > > This leads me to believe that there is a "exclude=kernel" somewhere in a > config file: I just read man yum.conf again and I see this: installonlypkgs List of packages that should only ever be installed, never updated. Kernels in particular fall into this category. Defaults to ‘kernel, kernel-smp, kernel-bigmem, kernel-enterprise, kernel-debug, kernel-unsupported’. What I missed is "never updated". If this is my problem, how do I fix it? > please check /etc/yum.conf again No exclude in any config file. Thanks again! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 19:56 -0500, William L. Maltby wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:37 -0800, Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 14:41 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > Priority *and* protect? Supposed to be a no-no. > > Worse, it's on the updates too. I would carefully examine all your repo > defs and have *either* protect or priority, but not both. Also make sure > the settings are appropriate sionce you've add some other repos. Thanks for your response, Bill. I added the protect lines attempting to locate this problem. I've removed all protect lines. > I've been using Rpmforge for a long time, NP. But at the time I > established priorities, I disabled all protect settings. > > And there are a couple exclude and include setups for a few special > instances. Mind telling me what these are? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 18:25 -0700, Shad L. Lords wrote: > > I misspoke. Yum installed kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14 October 13, 2007 > > according to yum.log. So, yum appears to have worked *once* updating the > > kernel. Looking in CentOS vault, I saw .15 which gives me a time frame > > for what it's worth. All I did was add rpmforge. I have removed it with > > no help. I will post any file related to this mystery when requested. > > What does the following command produce on your system? > > yum --noplugins --disable '*' --enable updates list 'kernel*' yum --noplugins --disable '*' --enable updates list 'kernel*' Setting up repositories updates 100% |=| 951 B 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files Installed Packages kernel.i686 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 installed kernel.i686 2.6.18-8.el5 installed kernel-headers.i386 2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.cen installed Available Packages kernel-doc.noarch2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 updates kernel-headers.i386 2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 updates Doesn't look like the problem is in plug-ins but maybe updates? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 14:41 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems everybody is out of ideas why yum is not updating the kernel. > > The following kernels are installed in /boot: > > > > vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 > > vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.el5 > > > > I originally installed CentOS 5.0 via CD. Yum automatically updated to > > 5.1 including kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5. > > The kernel that came with CentOS 5.1 was kernel-2.6.18-53. Could you post > your: > > /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo I misspoke. Yum installed kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14 October 13, 2007 according to yum.log. So, yum appears to have worked *once* updating the kernel. Looking in CentOS vault, I saw .15 which gives me a time frame for what it's worth. All I did was add rpmforge. I have removed it with no help. I will post any file related to this mystery when requested. Time wise, I have spent at least 4 days attempting to locate this failure. Here is the file you requested: # CentOS-Base.repo # # This file uses a new mirrorlist system developed by Lance Davis for CentOS. # The mirror system uses the connecting IP address of the client and the # update status of each mirror to pick mirrors that are updated to and # geographically close to the client. You should use this for CentOS updates # unless you are manually picking other mirrors. # # If the mirrorlist= does not work for you, as a fall back you can try the # remarked out baseurl= line instead. # # [base] name=CentOS-$releasever - Base mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =os #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 priority=1 protect=1 #released updates [updates] name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =updates #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 priority=1 protect=1 #packages used/produced in the build but not released [addons] name=CentOS-$releasever - Addons mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =addons #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 priority=1 protect=0 #additional packages that may be useful [extras] name=CentOS-$releasever - Extras mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =extras #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/extras/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 priority=1 protect=0 #additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages [centosplus] name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =centosplus #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 enabled=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 priority=2 protect=0 -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
It seems everybody is out of ideas why yum is not updating the kernel. The following kernels are installed in /boot: vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.el5 I originally installed CentOS 5.0 via CD. Yum automatically updated to 5.1 including kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5. I have traced the kernels from kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 to kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5. Yum stopped updating at this point. kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 was installed Oct 10, 2007 according to yum.log. It seems I installed rpmforge.repo around October 13, 2007. The installation included two files. rpmforge.repo and mirrors-rpmforge. The contents of rpmforge.repo is: # Name: RPMforge RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise 5 - dag # URL: http://rpmforge.net/ [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag #baseurl = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/mirrors-rpmforge #mirrorlist = file:///etc/yum.repos.d/mirrors-rpmforge enabled = 1 priority = 99 protect = 0 gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag gpgcheck = 1 Other than the priority is not needed, does any of the previous ring a bell? Still frustrated. I received the following this morning: /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron: Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5&arch=i386&repo=os error was [Errno 14] HTTP Error 505: DNS lookup error Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5&arch=i386&repo=os error was [Errno 14] HTTP Error 506: Failure To Connect To Web Server Has CentOS.org changed their url? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 09:28 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:58 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > OK .. lets go at this a different way :) > > > > > > what is the output of the following comamnd (put it all on one line if > > > it wraps): > > > > > > rpm -qa yum\* sqlite\* python\* rpm\* centos\* | sort > > > > yum-versionlock-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 > > Any chance you have the kernel listed in > /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/versionlock.list and versionlock enabled?? versionlock.list is disabled and there is no file versionlock. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:58 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: [snip] > OK .. lets go at this a different way :) > > what is the output of the following comamnd (put it all on one line if > it wraps): > > rpm -qa yum\* sqlite\* python\* rpm\* centos\* | sort centos-release-5-1.0.el5.centos.1 centos-release-notes-5.1.0-2 python-2.4.3-19.el5 python-devel-2.4.3-19.el5 python-elementtree-1.2.6-5 python-imaging-1.1.6-2.el5.rf python-ldap-2.2.0-2.1 python-numeric-23.7-2.2.2 python-sqlite-1.1.7-1.2.1 python-urlgrabber-3.1.0-2 rpm-4.4.2-47.el5 rpm-build-4.4.2-47.el5 rpm-devel-4.4.2-47.el5 rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf rpm-libs-4.4.2-47.el5 rpm-python-4.4.2-47.el5 sqlite-3.3.6-2 sqlite-devel-3.3.6-2 yum-3.0.5-1.el5.centos.5 yum-cron-0.6-1.el5.centos yum-downloadonly-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 yumex-2.0.3-2.el5.centos yum-fastestmirror-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 yum-metadata-parser-1.0-8.fc6 yum-priorities-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 yum-repolist-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 yum-skip-broken-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 yum-updatesd-3.0.5-1.el5.centos.5 yum-utils-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 yum-versionlock-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2 -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 23:14 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > Hm. I just noticed http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/i386/RPMS/ > > kernel listings are i686.rpm. Could my problem be this is confusing yum > > as I use i386 and this is the i386 directory? Doesn't make sense since > > no one else seems to have this. Of course their are most likely few > > running Pentium II's. Searching for answers in the dark. > > > um, i686 is pentium pro and beyond, including P-II, P3, P4, and Core, as > well as the various Athlons. AFAIK, CentOS 5 doesn't support the > older i486/i585 variants cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 5 model name : Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping: 1 cpu MHz : 398.278 cache size : 512 KB Sorry, I didn't actually say I have a Pentium II. Just implied I did. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 02:22 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 14:27 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > > > On Feb 19, 2008 1:58 PM, Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Please look at the file "/var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt" and see the > > > > first server from that list. If it is not a belnet.be mirror, please > > > > tell me which one it is, as it may be out of date. > > > > > > According to Bob's earlier post, he does not seem to have the > > > fastestmirror plugin. So he probably does not have that file... > > > > > > Bob, do a 'yum install yum-fastestmirror' and try again. > > > > Did so. No help. FYI no timedhosts.txt in the rpm. I still think the > > problem lies in yum's message "Could not find update match for kernel". > > timedhosts.txt is NOT in the rpm. It is created when you run yum and > contains the names of the mirror sites yum tried to access. Johnny > wanted to know which site yum attempted to use. If you do not see > this file even after yum was run, then something is amiss there. My bad! It's there. I was looking in the wrong directory and didn't notice until later. The file currently contains: mirror.centos.org 1.90688800812 Shouldn't yum update kernel update all kernel rpms installed? Rpm -q kernel returns all kernel rpm's I have installed (ie kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5) I tried this (yum update kernel) which reported: Could not find update match for kernel. How do I find what arch yum is using? This may be a clue why the kernel only is not being updated. This is what uname -rmpi returns: uname -rmpi 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 i686 i686 i386 > Akemi Thanks for staying with me, Akemi -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
Hm. I just noticed http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/i386/RPMS/ kernel listings are i686.rpm. Could my problem be this is confusing yum as I use i386 and this is the i386 directory? Doesn't make sense since no one else seems to have this. Of course their are most likely few running Pentium II's. Searching for answers in the dark. Shouldn't yum update kernel work update just the kernel* rpms? -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 14:27 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Feb 19, 2008 1:58 PM, Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bob Taylor wrote: > > > > sounds like the mirror you are updating from is not up to date. > > > > We currently know that one mirror is bad: > > > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2008-February/002532.html > > > > Please look at the file "/var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt" and see the > > first server from that list. If it is not a belnet.be mirror, please > > tell me which one it is, as it may be out of date. > > According to Bob's earlier post, he does not seem to have the > fastestmirror plugin. So he probably does not have that file... > > Bob, do a 'yum install yum-fastestmirror' and try again. Did so. No help. FYI no timedhosts.txt in the rpm. I still think the problem lies in yum's message "Could not find update match for kernel". -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 04:59 -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote: [snip] > -=-=-=-=- > #!/bin/sh > # /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron > > if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then > /usr/bin/yum clean headers > /usr/bin/yum -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum > sleep 300 > /usr/bin/yum -e 0 -d 0 -y update > sleep 10 > /usr/bin/yum clean headers > fi > -=-=-=-=- I commented out the clean headers and sleep lines. Stopped yum-updatesd and executed the script from the command line and it just sleeps (ie, ps aux "script" STAT=S). Curious. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:58 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: [snip] > sounds like the mirror you are updating from is not up to date. I *think* I'm using http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/ I have found that there is no kernel at rpmforge so I have commented out all mirror urls in /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo file and disabled the rpmforge.repo file setting enabled=0. I have also set priority=1. This creates a problem updating the kernel if you have rpms from rpmforge. Is there a fix for this? >From what I gather from the message "Could not find update match for kernel". This is my problem. Why can't it find this match. What match is yum looking for? > We currently know that one mirror is bad: > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2008-February/002532.html > > Please look at the file "/var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt" and see the > first server from that list. If it is not a belnet.be mirror, please > tell me which one it is, as it may be out of date. I don't have this file. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 23:02 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 10:56:58PM -0800, Bob Taylor wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 20:24 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: [snip] > Coming in late on this thread, but... > > 1. Can you point your repo's at a different URL? > 2. Have you tried a 'yum clean all' first? > 3. Try disabling everything _but_ the update repo, doing yum clean > and then yum update. > > yum clean all > yum --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=updates update After running both commands I receive the following: 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion Still haven't found the problem! I have also put priority=1 in both base and updates. No help. So...if Ed's is working, why isn't mine? Is yum-updatesd the problem? Should I use Michael's script? This has become very frustrating! -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 20:24 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > yum install yum-repolist > Then run: > yum repolist > > to list all the repos you have on your system and their status. After running yum install yum-repolist yum repolist is: Loading "skip-broken" plugin Loading "installonlyn" plugin Loading "downloadonly" plugin Loading "priorities" plugin Loading "repolist" plugin repo id repo name status priority === = == rpmforgeRed Hat Enterprise 5 - RPMforge.net enabled 99 baseCentOS-5 - Base enabled 99 updates CentOS-5 - Updates enabled 99 c5-mediaCentOS-5 - Mediadisabled99 centosplus CentOS-5 - Plus enabled 99 addons CentOS-5 - Addons enabled 99 extras CentOS-5 - Extras enabled 99 Looks OK to me. What the hell is our problem? All my updates are via yum. I received 1 updated kernel in September and none since. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 16:31 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Feb 18, 2008 2:40 PM, Ed Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am having the same issue > First make sure you do not have any line like: > > exclude=kernel -OR- > exclude=kernel* I have no excludes > in /etc/yum.conf or /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo > > Then try updating the kernel by: > > yum -d5 update kernel > > Does the output show any hint? yum -d5 update kernel Loading "skip-broken" plugin "versionlock" plugin is disabled Loading "installonlyn" plugin Loading "downloadonly" plugin Loading "priorities" plugin Running "config" handler for "skip-broken" plugin Running "config" handler for "installonlyn" plugin Running "config" handler for "downloadonly" plugin Running "config" handler for "priorities" plugin Yum Version: 3.0.5 COMMAND: yum -d5 Installroot: / Ext Commands: kernel Setting up Update Process Setting up repositories rpmforge 100% |=| 1.1 kB 00:00 base 100% |=| 1.1 kB 00:00 updates 100% |=| 951 B 00:00 centosplus100% |=| 951 B 00:00 addons100% |=| 951 B 00:00 extras100% |=| 1.1 kB 00:00 Running "postreposetup" handler for "downloadonly" plugin Reading repository metadata in from local files Setting up Package Sacks Running "exclude" handler for "priorities" plugin 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Reading Local RPMDB Building updates object Could not find update match for kernel No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion I see nothing other than the second to last line. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 10:10 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Feb 18, 2008 9:52 AM, Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having the same problem as Valent Turkovic. I have the > > following /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo (mind the line-wraps): > > Would you post the output of: > > uname -mr 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 i686 > rpm -qa | grep ^kernel | sort kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.centos.plus I manually added kernel-headers. BTW uname -a says: uname -a Linux ann.qtpi.local 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Thu Sep 27 18:58:54 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux This doesn't look right. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Yum not updating kernel
I'm having the same problem as Valent Turkovic. I have the following /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo (mind the line-wraps): [base] name=CentOS-$releasever - Base mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo=os #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #released updates [updates] name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates #mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo=updates baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #packages used/produced in the build but not released [addons] name=CentOS-$releasever - Addons mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo=addons #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #additional packages that may be useful [extras] name=CentOS-$releasever - Extras mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo=extras #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/extras/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages [centosplus] name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo=centosplus #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 enabled=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 I have missed any fixes for this since the suggestion to comment the mirrorlist line and uncomment the baseurl line (which doesn't work. Thanks in advance. -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] No installed updated kernels via yum
Subject says it all. Running yum install kernel or yum install kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.i686.rpm gives "nothing to do". Yum runs daily via cron. Last kernel installed in /boot via yum is: Sep 27 16:38 vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 /etc/yum.conf contains: [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum keepcache=1 debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=1 plugins=1 metadata_expire=1800 # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo contains: [base] name=CentOS-$releasever - Base mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =os #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #released updates [updates] name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =updates baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #packages used/produced in the build but not released [addons] name=CentOS-$releasever - Addons mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =addons baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #additional packages that may be useful [extras] name=CentOS-$releasever - Extras mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =extras baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/extras/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 #additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages [centosplus] name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch= $basearch&repo =centosplus baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 enabled=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 Yum updates everything else. I don't see the problem reading yum and yum.conf man pages. Any help appreciated! Bob -- Bob Taylor ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] HTML Posts
Please don't post HTML messages. Firefox renders your messages in about 4 points. Quite unreadable. Please, this is not meant to start a war. Thanks. -- Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Difficulty with 5.0 - 5.1 upgrade: sysreport vs. sos
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 01:14 -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote: > I got file conflicts between the sysreport and sos packages on the > file /usr/sbin/sysreport. I unchecked sysreport in the package > updater UI and the rest of the update is proceedng. I also received the same error. Bug in pup? Shouldn't sysreport be removed first then sos installed? Will try command line yum update -y. Bob -- Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum message
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 17:48 +, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Bob Taylor wrote: > > I am getting the following daily: > > > > etc/cron.daily/yum.cron: > > > > ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata > > ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata > > > > I have run "yum clean dbcache" each time I see this. What am I missing? > > Where are you 'getting' this ? And what is the problem ? I think its ok > to expect yum to update the sqlite cache each night. >From /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron via mail to root. The problem is I don't think I should be getting this on CentOS 5.0. Updated automatically via yum. -- Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] yum message
I am getting the following daily: etc/cron.daily/yum.cron: ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata I have run "yum clean dbcache" each time I see this. What am I missing? Bob -- Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Time Change
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 08:27 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: [snip] > While your there, pick me up a nice bottle of tequila! ;-P Actually, I live in San Felipe, B.C. Mexico. When I installed CentOS recently, I didn't think about the Congress critters stupid change to the standard/daylight scheme. Since Mexico follows the U.S., this requires a major change in Mexico's law. Oh well... Sorry about the tequila! :-) -- Bob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
