[CentOS] Small Business support for *nix systems in Spain
Hello, This message just came across on another mailing list I am on. The little dig on Unix as being old and Windows being new got me annoyed so I wanted to reply, but with some real contacts that he asks for at the end. I figured there might be some folks who could help him out. Feel free to reply on list or to me, and I will forward on your contact info. Message follows: Our company has 30 shops that connect to a central server where the point -of-sale software runs, and is currently operating on Unix (it´s an old system we acquired when we bought another company). It seems obvious we have to replace this Unix architecture with something more modern (and better able to manage our growing needs). The computer consultants we work with have suggested two options: - Moving to Windows Terminal server (cheaper) - Moving to Citrix with virtualized servers (more expensive but apparently much faster and more powerful). Does anybody have any experience wotking on Citrix (or Windows Terminal Server) and have any views on them? Are there better options available for small to mid sized companies (we currently have 50 or so users logging it but expect to grow to 150-200 relatively quickly). Finally does anyone have any contacts in Spain that you coud recommend for something like this? End of quoted message. Take care, Kurt Hansen CharityWeb ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] non-threaded perl no longer in .spec file
Robert Heller wrote: At Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:16:43 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Hello, I'm setting up a new server on 5.4 and noticed this in the perl.spec file: * Mon Jul 21 2008 Stepan Kasal - 4:5.8.8-14.el5 - add two patches, which... - Resolves: #435505, #431041 - remove %%define threading, the non-threading variant is not supported, Related: 435376 That comment wasn't there when I set up a server on 5.2 a few months back and the %define threading option was still in the perl.spec file, making it easy for me to create my own non-threaded perl. I want a non-threaded perl because the mod_perl folks say that the performance is better on a non-threaded perl. I believe I can compare the spec files and figure out where to edit the new spec file, but I wondered about that not supported comment. Is there something bad about the non-threading variant? Probably the same thing that is bad about a single core processor. Which are pretty much no longer available (except for processors meant for little SBC/Embedded systems). I suspect that either RH or (more likely) the Perl people don't want to have to support two versions of Perl, one with and one without threading. Actually, I'm pretty sure that this is a decision by RH alone. If anything, the Perl people advised against it. Everything I've read by perl developers is that threading is a performance hit in perl unless you've written your program specifically to take advantage of threading. Most perl programs don't, so it would be better for those who use perl the most if the default version were the non-threaded one. However, I realize that choosing the threaded version almost assuredly is preferred by a majority of RH users. It has been clear by choices RH has made over the years with respect to perl that heavy users of perl in Apache are not a core constituency of RH. Those of us who do use perl extensively on RH distributions have to adapt. I only wish RH made it easier. I do know, though, that there is a set of perl modules, called bioperl, used extensively by folks analyzing the human genome. Plus, they even have a pretty large cluster at the National Institutes of Health running on CentOS. I wonder if a lot of those modules are optimized for threaded perl? The program that I use the most, mod_perl, which is a persistent perl interpreter in Apache, was not written to take advantage of threading. The mod_perl developers report that you can get a 20-30% increase in performance by using a non-threaded perl vs a threaded one. No-one's brought up any problems with the non-threaded one, so I think I'll go ahead with my own spec file and rebuilding perl. Thank you! Take care, Kurt Hansen khan...@charityweb.net ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] non-threaded perl no longer in .spec file
Hello, I'm setting up a new server on 5.4 and noticed this in the perl.spec file: * Mon Jul 21 2008 Stepan Kasal - 4:5.8.8-14.el5 - add two patches, which... - Resolves: #435505, #431041 - remove %%define threading, the non-threading variant is not supported, Related: 435376 That comment wasn't there when I set up a server on 5.2 a few months back and the %define threading option was still in the perl.spec file, making it easy for me to create my own non-threaded perl. I want a non-threaded perl because the mod_perl folks say that the performance is better on a non-threaded perl. I believe I can compare the spec files and figure out where to edit the new spec file, but I wondered about that not supported comment. Is there something bad about the non-threading variant? Thanks! Take care, Kurt Hansen khan...@charityweb.net ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...
Scott Silva wrote: on 4-2-2009 1:54 PM Jason Pyeron spake the following: Can I get some recommendations: We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with 1: SLA 2: SSH access 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source. Would like them to include http/https and email. Have a look at the hosting providers that sponsor CentOS. After all they are part of the reason CentOS is so good! http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=15 I have personal experience with one of those though -- Superb. Their name is a misnomer, unless it is used as an adverb describing bad. I've had great service from liquidweb.com, but they aren't cheap. Take care, Kurt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Marvell Yukon 8056?
Tim Nelson wrote: Greetings list- I've got a server 'in the mail' and I see now on the specsheet that it has Marvell Yukon 8056 NICs onboard. Since I cannot seem to find a HCL for Centos 5 or RHEL5 to help verify, I'd like to know if it works 'out of the box' on CentOS 5.x or is there additional work to make it function (properly)? My searching has revealed that there are in fact two different drivers for Marvell hardware... sky2 and sk8lin? Here's a recent discussion on the forum about this: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=17422forum=39post_id=62832#forumpost62832 And the latest drivers in rpms: http://centos.toracat.org/ajb/CentOS-5/sk98lin/ They've worked great for me for the past 3 months. Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 5.2 driver for Marvell Yukon 88E8042 PCI-E Fast Ethernet controller (SOLVED)
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Vnpenguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the 88E8042 shares the same driver as 88E8056, check out this forum thread: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=12895forum=40 Scroll down to note #5 and get the kABI tracking kmod-sk98lin package. There will be no need to rebuild the driver for each kernel update. Yes, the driver sk98lin works fine for me, under 5.2 Thank you for the note. Then, the OP can go directly to: http://centos.toracat.org/ajb/sk98lin/ and install the driver from there (thanks to Alan for building them). These kmods are not kernel version specific, so will survive kernel updates. It's mentioned in this thread, too: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=17422forum=39 Akemi, looks like you answered this question a bunch within the past 24 hours! :-) Thank you! Special thanks to Alan Bartlett for building this kmod! It works for me, including over a kernel upgrade. Thanks! Kurt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 5.2 driver for Marvell Yukon 88E8042 PCI-E Fast Ethernet controller
HI, Joseph L. Casale wrote: I can't find a Linux driver for it except one that appears to require me to recompile a custom kernel. I find it on the Marvell website: http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do No, you make a module with that downlaod. I also have the unfortunate luck to have a few systems with various Marvell nics and they aren't as good as Intel IMHO. It's pretty simple, check the readme out. Thanks! I had tried that and got an error when the install.sh tried to test the module it built. It then gave me instructions for doing it manually; those instructions were for compiling the driver into the kernel, I believe. Maybe the module was fine and just the testing procedure was off. In any case, the sk98lin mentioned later in this thread worked. Take care, Kurt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] 5.2 driver for Marvell Yukon 88E8042 PCI-E Fast Ethernet controller
Hello, I'm trying to install CentOS 5.2 on an HP 6730s notebook. All's going well except for one little item -- the networking. Never thought I'd have trouble with an Ethernet adapter, so I didn't even check before buying this machine; it was cheap. The adapter is a Marvell Yukon 88E8042 PCI-E Fast Ethernet controller. I can't find a Linux driver for it except one that appears to require me to recompile a custom kernel. I find it on the Marvell website: http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do It looks like I'll have to recompile the kernel to get this installed. Having read the warnings on the CentOS Wiki, I figured I should ask before building my own kernel for the first time. Do I have other options? Thanks! Kurt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Trouble Donating on centos.org
John R Pierce wrote: Kurt Hansen wrote: I suspect PayPal is blocking this, not my credit card company. I suspect, too, PayPal is doing this to reduce their own costs rather than protect centos.org or me from a fraudulent transaction. I have a PayPal account that was set up a few years back as a test based on a PayPal offer to me, have never used beyond setting up, but which PayPal has suspended. I'm not interested in using this account nor jumping through the hoops they require. I may have entered this credit card in that account. I suspect PayPal is blocking this credit card number to push me to re-open my PayPal account. I believe paypal users can choose not to accept money from credit cards due to the fees withheld, although doing this for donations would be kind of silly... paypal's system is somewhat opaque about this sort of thing. Yes, I can see why you would do this for items with low margin. But, for donations, it doesn't make any sense at all. I don't think that's the case here, though. Or, the PayPal error message is inaccurate since it suggests using a different credit card. Can whomever setup the PayPal donation capability on centos.org give any insight into whether credit card payments are blocked? Maybe one has to tell PayPal to NOT block credit cards? PayPal does try to steer people to use a PayPal account. Considering they tend to be a customer-hostile organization, I wouldn't put it past them to make this the default. Take care, Kurt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS on HP EliteBook 6930 or Dell Latitude e6400
Hello, I'm considering the HP EliteBook 6930 or the Dell Latitude e6400 notebooks for CentOS. I'm planning on using these in a situation in which they are always on, and I want low power and low noise and high reliability. HP claims up to 24 hours battery power and Dell up to 19 hours. I figure this can bridge the gap for most power outages in my neighborhood. I realize that I won't get these hours running CentOS, but these two seem best of breed, so they give me the most margin. I'm also planning on getting a SSD (Solid State Drive) on them. I've found folks on the Web who've put the latest Ubuntu on each with few problems, but very little mention of other distributions. Actually, I couldn't find any mention of other distributions. Is there anything that should concern me about putting CentOS on either of these? Has anyone done it? Note that I plan to turn wireless networking off so I'd be happy if it doesn't work. Also, I don't care about the screen performance. I figure these are the two most likely areas of compatibility concern, but the SSD has me a little concerned, too. Thanks for your help! Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Trouble Donating on centos.org
Hello, I tried making a donation via the centos.org website but was blocked by PayPal. I tried today and a few weeks ago. The error I got in both instances was: The card you entered cannot be used for this payment. Please enter a different credit or debit card number. This strikes me as a strange response. It didn't say the card was declined; it said it cannot be used. Also, the response was awfully quick so it didn't seem to be from the credit card processor, but from PayPal. I setup e-commerce sites so am very familiar with on-line credit card processing. Also, I just used this card online a couple of days ago successfully, and I know I have plenty of available credit. Has anybody else gotten an error like this? I suspect PayPal is blocking this, not my credit card company. I suspect, too, PayPal is doing this to reduce their own costs rather than protect centos.org or me from a fraudulent transaction. I have a PayPal account that was set up a few years back as a test based on a PayPal offer to me, have never used beyond setting up, but which PayPal has suspended. I'm not interested in using this account nor jumping through the hoops they require. I may have entered this credit card in that account. I suspect PayPal is blocking this credit card number to push me to re-open my PayPal account. Am I just being paranoid? Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Lost my madwifi setup
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Getting closer, see below... Robert Moskowitz wrote: I rebuilt my notebook that has the atheros card in it, and forgot to save all of my setup to get it working. I am using dkms and the madwifi rpms from rpmforge. My modprobe.conf has a line: alias wifi0 ath_pci I can ifconfig wifi0 up But the command: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant -dd -D madwifi -i wifi0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf I think I need a: ifconfig ath0 up And the wpa_supplicant line should be: /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant -B -dd -K -D madwifi -i ath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf But this is still not working. I think there is something I need to do with wlanconfig? I used the directions on this page a couple of days ago: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless Once I did, I had the wireless working on atheros with wpa2 personal. Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] madwifi on Centos 5.2, kernel 2.6.18-92.1.6.el5
Dag Wieers wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Kurt Hansen wrote: I just installed Centos 5.2 on my wife's IBM thinkpad T41 with Atheros wireless. It looks like I need to install madwifi to get the wireless to work. Our home wireless network uses WPA2 I found the EL5 rpms at atrpms, but there is no madwifi-kmdl rpms for kernel 2.6.18-92.1.6.el5. So, to get the wireless working on my home network, what's the shortest path from here? Install madwifi from source (was part the way there but discovered the rpms when I looked for the wpa_supplicant stuff)? Or, can I use one of the other madwifi-kmdl rpms? Or, go back to an earlier kernel? If you actually looked at the CentOS wiki, you would have found this when searching for madwifi: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless which should help. If it doesn't, we'd be pleased to know about it. Following the instructions at that page worked! Just had to reboot at the end, login and the machine was connected. Thanks! I'll be sure to look at the Wiki first from now on. I had serched the mailing list, the madwifi docs, madwifi wiki, and a couple of rpm repositories before making the request on the list -- I figured there must be something I was missing. Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] madwifi on Centos 5.2, kernel 2.6.18-92.1.6.el5
Hello, I just installed Centos 5.2 on my wife's IBM thinkpad T41 with Atheros wireless. It looks like I need to install madwifi to get the wireless to work. Our home wireless network uses WPA2 I found the EL5 rpms at atrpms, but there is no madwifi-kmdl rpms for kernel 2.6.18-92.1.6.el5. So, to get the wireless working on my home network, what's the shortest path from here? Install madwifi from source (was part the way there but discovered the rpms when I looked for the wpa_supplicant stuff)? Or, can I use one of the other madwifi-kmdl rpms? Or, go back to an earlier kernel? Thanks for your help! Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help Needed with setup!
HI Christopher, I write in hope that there is a person willing to contact me and assist in setup a server that is being hosted by ServerBeach, this is for a non-profit , I don't know much about this stuff and I would like to get it setup so I can do the things that I need to do which is get the website up and running. The org does not have any money as if it need we would get a managed server and instead of a self-managed server. Given that: 1. The non-profit has little money 2. You don't know much about this stuff you don't want a self-managed server. Self-managed servers tend to be more expensive than managed ones and require greater knowledge to maintain, thus running counter to the needs of your situation. You might want to try a different web hosting service. The hosting provider I use charges $69/month for a managed virtual-private server and ~$20/month for a shared webhosting server. They are at http://www.liquidweb.com/ Other options are out there, but this is the sort of thing you want, I believe. Take care, Kurt Hansen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
