Re: [CentOS] smartmontools SRPM fails
Lars Hecking wrote: >> ### [100%] >> error: unpacking of archive failed on file >> /home/jmccarty/devtools/RebuildRPM/build/SOURCES/smartd.initd;4d39deaa: >> cpio: MD5 sum mismatch [...] > Happens with SRPMS from newer Fedoras. Unpack it manually into > /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES and move the spec file into place. What I did was turn off MD5 checking, and I got what I needed. Thanks! Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartmontools SRPM fails
Jay Leafey wrote: > Mike McCarty wrote: >> Hmm, maybe I need a later version of RPM. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436812 >> >> Mike > > As I understand it, there have been some changes in the checksum methods > in the newer versions of RPM. If you want to install package built with > the newer versions, you need to add the --nomd5 option to the rpm > command to avoid the signature errors: That was my (provisional) conclusion, and that's what I did. Version 5.40 is now happily running on my system. Hadda update the smartd.conf file, of course, for my needs. > > rpm -ivh --nomd5 smartmontools-5.39-1.2.el6.src.rpm > > Of course, once that's done the fun is just starting. Since the > original was built for RHEL6, it may have dependencies on newer versions > of other packages. I had no other problems. I probably need to get a later version of RPM source and install. I had already done a straight tarball build and install into /usr/local for some testing, but wanted RPM to do it "right", so I needed a SPEC file, mostly. > > Your mileage may vary. > Thanks! Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] smartmontools SRPM fails
Mike McCarty wrote: [...] > $ rpm -ivh smartmontools-5.39.1-2.el6.src.rpm > warning: smartmontools-5.39.1-2.el6.src.rpm: V3 RSA/MD5 signature: > NOKEY, key ID fd431d51 Hmm, maybe I need a later version of RPM. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436812 Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] smartmontools SRPM fails
I want to install smarmontools v 5.40, and so I pulled the SRPM for 5.39 so I could patch and install... $ wget -Nc ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Workstation/en/os/SRPMS/smartmontools-5.39.1-2.el6.src.rpm However, the install of the source fails. $ rpm -ivh smartmontools-5.39.1-2.el6.src.rpm warning: smartmontools-5.39.1-2.el6.src.rpm: V3 RSA/MD5 signature: NOKEY, key ID fd431d51 1:smartmontools warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root ### [100%] error: unpacking of archive failed on file /home/jmccarty/devtools/RebuildRPM/build/SOURCES/smartd.initd;4d39deaa: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch Is the SRPM corrupted? I've pulled a few from other places for other versions (like Fedora) from pbone, and they all have this problem. Any hints available? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: > Greetings, > > On 1/21/11, JohnS wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 20:13 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> This is on software which ran as POS stuff. > > > hmm... how about a vlock -a (or inverse thereof) wrapper? We wanted to log the user out of the POS application, not lock out of the machine. That also doesn't address overwriting of sensitive material in RAM. Also, it was with SCO, not Linux. It should really be thought of more as an embedded application. Upon boot up, the first thing run was the app, and that occurred automatically. The users were not computer savvy. In fact, the ones who thought they had some savvy were the ones causing most of the problems, by messing up the configuration. One guy liked to rename directories to suit his fancy. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
JohnS wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:18 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Giles Coochey wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> I can't speak for HIPPA, SOX etc... but automatic locking is part of IT >>> best practice. >> I can. I did a contract job a few years ago to achieve HIPPA compliance >> with some pharmacy software. I inserted time limits with logout, screen >> information blanking, and RAM data overwriting in order to comply. > > What happened to SSL (Encryption)? Gee the MPI just hit the world. This is on software which ran as POS stuff. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] cloning a server
PA wrote: > I guess what I was asking for is to take a already configured server and put > it on multiple CD's DVD's and then use that to install on another server. Reading between the lines, ISTM that you don't have a verified means to do backups. If you can't do what you want, then you don't have a good backup system, because that's what a backup is for. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Mike McCarty wrote: [...] > IANAL, but I suggest that anyone who has any intellectual > property (patents, trade secrets, trade marks) get a lawyer Oops! Forgot copyright. Those are the ones in the USA. There may be others in other countries. I don't know. Anyway, trade secrets are very hard to protect, and "due diligence" is very important, so I'm told. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Sorin Srbu wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom H >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:03 PM >> To: CentOS mailing list >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? >> >> >> In our environment, leaving your desk without locking your >> computer/screen is punished with a disciplinary hearing and three such >> hearings result in dismissal. Having one person using another's >> account is considered a security risk. > > Sounds kinda' harsh. May I ask what industry this is in? Sounds pretty normal to me. I've worked for a variety of companies over a period of over twenty years, and similar policies were in effect in each one. At one company where I worked, possesion of another person's password was immediate dismissal grounds, though not automatic. Any company which doesn't exercise "due diligence" to protect its trade secrets will lose when trying to recover from an industrial espionage incident. I know from personal experience, since I was at a company which went after another for theft of IP, and nearly wound up having to testify in court. A friend of mine did have to. All employees were required to attend a seminar presented by the full time legal staff, explaining what IP is, and how it is protected. One thing we were told very forcefully was that we were to have good passwords (and what that meant), and that we were never to divulge our passwords to anyone else. IANAL, but I suggest that anyone who has any intellectual property (patents, trade secrets, trade marks) get a lawyer to explain what they are, what the differences are, and how to protect them. They need different kinds of protection, and trade secrets, especially, are hard to protect without good, secret passwords. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: [...] > User accounts also doesn't mean much to me. I know how it sounds, but > I care more about the data than the user's account. As long as I can > access whatever I want, whenever I want. ISTM that you have "control issues". Access to data is what counts, and you've got that by your own statement. Since that's the case, I suggest that there isn't going to be any change in your stance, no matter what arguments get presented. You have an emotional attachment to this issue, and rational argument isn't going to make progress. What might make a difference would be addressing the emotional content of your statements. That's something better done in another venue, I think. The bottom line with you seems to be "because I _want_ it that way." I suspect that no rational argument is going to change the desire to feel the degree of control over your machines and employees that you have. That's not necessarily a criticism, BTW. In this particular case, it seems excessive to me. However, you are you, and "you" (your company) have paid for something, and you want a certain degree of control. I like to control what's on my machine, too, as another thread reveals. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Giles Coochey wrote: [...] > I can't speak for HIPPA, SOX etc... but automatic locking is part of IT > best practice. I can. I did a contract job a few years ago to achieve HIPPA compliance with some pharmacy software. I inserted time limits with logout, screen information blanking, and RAM data overwriting in order to comply. SOX I don't know about. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Giles Coochey wrote: [...] > A user account should belong to the person who has been assigned that > account. They are the only person who should be able to use that You are conflating "access" and "ownership". The company should own the machine and the data. Only persons authorized by the company should have access. That should include the user to whom the account is assigned, and a limited number of "trusted" persons with administration priviledges. Ultimately, the company must have access to all information on an "as needed" basis, which should be rare. The rest of your argument stands. [...] > Data and Accounts are distinct, and the policies regarding their use > should be distinct too. Well stated. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM, John Hodrien > wrote: > > > >> I think I see things differently. Allowing others to access your account >> *is* >> a security risk. It potentially opens confidential data open to other >> people, >> and leaves that specific user open to abuse through people using their >> machine. You might as well just pin your passwords on the notice board and >> be >> done. After all, you trust all your staff. > > I don't agree with that, sorry. > > A few years ago one of our staff members decided his salary isn't good > enough so he started a side-line business, on our company time. He > stole some of our client's data (contact details, emails, and even > contracts) and sold it to 3rd parties. This went on for about 6 months > before we actually realized what was going on. The computer belongs to the company, and the information on it _should_ belong to the company (though what people put on computers can't be completely monitored), but keeping one employee out of another's accounts is important for a variety of reasons. That does not preclude access to the machine's content. Anyone with root access should be able to do that. You shouldn't have to log in AS THAT USER in order to access the computer's content. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?
John Hodrien wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > >> I don't know about you, but a user leaving his desk (for any purpose, >> other than going home) doesn't cause a security risk. I trust all our >> staff, and when Andrew goes on lunch I expect him to leave his PC >> unlocked. > > I think I see things differently. Allowing others to access your account *is* > a security risk. It potentially opens confidential data open to other people, > and leaves that specific user open to abuse through people using their > machine. You might as well just pin your passwords on the notice board and be > done. After all, you trust all your staff. This is not a supposition, I've seen it happen. I worked at a company where one guy disabled his keyboard locker. One day he left for lunch. When he came back, Security escorted him to HR, where he was asked to explain why he sent several racist e-mails all over the company. He had "a few days off" while they investigated the incident, and the culprit was found. The culprit thought it was all just a prank, and that's what was intended, but both of them got in lots of trouble. Official memos to everyone followed. At home, I keep my keyboard locked the instant I leave it because of potential security breaches, using the little "lock screen (sic)" button on the pop up menu on the left. Just about the only GUI button I use. OTOH, I have cats :-) Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] how to convert 7 cd iso images into one dvd image?
Nataraj wrote: > There's always ncftp which has the ability to resume an interrupted file > transfer, though I regularly transfer DVD images with both http and ftp > without any errors. wget Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 24G running on centos 5 desktop.
John R Pierce wrote: > Kwan Lowe wrote: >> Wow, pretty nice... 24G in a desktop :) Remember when 2M was a big deal?? >> > > heck, I remember when 64k was a big deal. Yes, but we were running CP/M, not Linux. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RAID 5 setup?
Robert Heller wrote: > At Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:27:56 +0100 CentOS mailing list > wrote: [...] > >> The root of the problem lies in the fact that when a disk fails, you >> have to read-out the data from the other disks to re-build the RAID. >> Reads from disks have a certain probability to contain an error. >> The larger the disk and the larger the array, the more probable it is >> to encounter such an error while rebuilding the RAID (and if that >> happens, you're RAID is just a piece of scrap-metal) > > Or as was done recently at the Wendell Free Library, your disks become > raw materials for an after school art project... :-) It depends on how redundant the array is. With enough redundancy, one can rebuild even if more than one disc fails. RAID is essentially indistinguishable from ECC. If the number of errors (failed reads from discs) does not exceed the correction ability of the code used (usualy a Reed-Solomon BCH style code) then the reconstruction can proceed. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] find /etc -size -1G return only empty files
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> Ala1n Sp1neu8 wrote: >>> Hello >>> find /etc -size -1G >>> >>> should return all files less than 1Giga byte in /etc, but return a >>> list of empty file (size=0) >>> >>> find /etc -size -2G >>> >>> work fine and return all the files >>> >>> This works the same on my fedora11 and my centos 5 ! >>> >>> Did I miss something or is it a bug ? >> not sure, but: >> -1 strictly less than one, being an int that has got to be zero. >> G unit is GB. > > I'm sure now, a simple test confirms this. > +n : >=n, so behaves as expected > -n : when you have a G behind that n. Interesting. The man page is somewhat ambiguous on this point, but does hint at that when it mentions that it references a number of units, the unit being changeable, and defaults to 512 bytes. So, then, -size -1024M should do what he wants, up to within 1MB blocks, but still doesn't reference bytes. To do it exactly by the byte, one would need -size -1073741824b Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can I access a ZIP file that's over 2Gb?
Robert Heller wrote: > At Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:53:49 -0500 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > > Random thought (total guess): What happens if you use split on the zip > file and try to get info zip to think it is a multi-part archive? A multi-part archive is not the same as a single archive split into pieces. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?
Dave Stevens wrote: > I manage a web hosting server that we've recently upgraded, in part so > we could accommodate a domain that will enable community mapping. In a > recent exchange of mails one developer said: > > > "I could build the package directly on the server machine you have, > provided that the potential security risk posed by having compilers > installed is not an issue." That's how the "Internet Worm" spread. As a general principle, machines on the "periphery" or what one might call "firewall machines" should have nothing installed which they don't need in order to perform their primary intended function. That means both hardware and software, IMO. The less which is there, the fewer potentials for compromise exist. No services should run which aren't necessary for the functioning of the machine. Don't even install them unless you have to, but don't enable/start them if you install them. I would install rkhunter and tripwire, and I would peruse their logs. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intrusion Detection
Jim Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Dan Burkland wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I have been exploring the various intrusion detection systems >> available for the Linux platform and was wondering what ones you >> all would recommend? I have used AIDE before and while it is >> extremely easy to setup, it does not support the ability to send >> alerts as files are changed (allows one to be aware of an intrusion >> almost immediately). > You can use auditd to watch specific files if you're after some key > things. Beyond that I just use aide. I like tripwire and rkhunter. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] grub.conf and /proc/cmdline
Jerry Geis wrote: > I have a grub.conf (below) with pci=nomsi, also /proc/cmdline and dmesg > | more > do not show the pci=nomsi. Have you tried booting up, and before GRUB goes on to boot, trying to edit the command line? Then you'll see what GRUB actually thinks it needs to do. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> I wrote >> >> [...] >> >>> Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that >>> you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. >> Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. >> > I dunno, a buddy who was in army intel back in the early eighties told me, > about 10 years ago, that they could flatten out the platters and read some > data. Thermite not only melts the platters, but will hit the Curie point. > > mark "and make nice flames and melting metal" I belive modern discs are brittle, and will shatter, not bend. Thermite would certainly do the trick. Might get you in trouble with local hazard control laws, though. It might melt concrete, so don't do it on your driveway. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd
John Doe wrote: > > Oops, for the slow procedures, it is /dev/random instead of /dev/zero... Ah, ok, disregard the other message. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: [...] > Alternatively, the answer on another techie mailing list I'm on is that > you could disassemble the disks and use thermite. Just a hammer, no need to disassemble the case. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] help fdisk and dd
John Doe wrote: > From: chloe K >> What is the best practice to remove all data in the disk? >> ls fdisk ok or use dd > > Maybe something like (replace the ?): > - fast but not secure: >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 > - slow but more secure: >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096 What is the difference between the above two commands? Did I miss something? > - n times slower but n times more secure: >for ((i=1; i<=n; i++)); do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/?d? bs=4096; done I don't know what "n times more secure" means. Could you please explain? Does that mean that, with n times as much work, one can still recover the information? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SMARTD (?)
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Ok, I saw more sectors on a drive yesterday, so this morning, no one was > running on it, and I took it out of use, then bounced it onto a DVD, and > ran fsck -c (check for bad blocks). It finished. I bounce the server. > > And SMARTD reports the sectors as "currently unreadable (pending) > sectors", and "offline uncorrectable sectors". I recommend to replace that disc ASAP. When they start having to reallocate more sectors, they are in a pending complete failure state. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data
Karanbir Singh wrote: > On 02/24/2010 07:44 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> Err.. raid is NOT backup solution. >> Neither is a snapshot in another location on the same machine. > > Thats not true, raid is an online setup - different location could be > point in time, and on blockdev;s that dont share user access load. Which I think that, without causing any more dispute, I can point out that "backup" covers a wide range of solutions to a less broad but still not uniquely one set of needs. No one of the means to backup is a full solution to all the needs which "backup" satisfies. Even when one is using the term "backup" narrowly in the sense of "protection from disaster", there are still different kinds of backup. For example, there is the "full disaster recovery" or "bare metal" backup, which is intended to work with another piece of identical hardware, starting with blank fixed storage, and ending up with a working system which looks identical to the original at the epoch at which the backup was made. This is significantly different from one intended merely to restore the user altered or created data on a machine which has been newly installed with a compatible version of the OS, for example. That's why one needs to know the intended use of the backup set before making any recommendations on procedure and content of the backup set. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data
Agnello George wrote: > The requirement fro backup is not primarily for HDD failure , but human > error failure . In case one of our user ( eg: the COO with huge mailbox > size has delete all his certain very important mails, and he want to recover > them , the contacts us as we are supposed to maintain his mail backup for a > week, and we should restore his backup immediately ) this the main > requirement for the backup and that too on the same server different > partition . Have you considered using a snapshot approach? By that, I mean one which uses hard links to create the "backup", and as files get added/ modified, the data are copied, and links are created. Usually, one has a snapshot directory with something like a daily snapshot, and 24 hourly ones, something like that. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data
Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2010/2/24 Mike McCarty : >> Agnello George wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> We have an issue with one of our clients , they have a mail server with >>> the /var/spool/imap partition as 150 GB . They need to take differential >>> backup on to /backup partition ( a different HDD of total 250 GB space ) . >> You've stated things in terms of solutions. You may possibly get better >> answers if you state your goal. There is some capability you are >> trying to achieve. Tell us what that is, and you may make more progress. >> >> IOW, what is the purpose of the backup? As one mentioned, RAID may >> handle your needs. > > Err.. raid is NOT backup solution. Of course not. RAID is a means to achieve availability, which may be his goal. Karanbir already stated a means to do what he seemed to want, but it seemed not to satisfy his needs. Unless the query is placed in terms of requirements and goals, instead of solutions, it'll be difficult to achieve satisfactory results. The purpose of backup is some degree of disaster recovery, and perhaps also migration. If that's truly his goal, then ISTM that Karanbir suggested a viable solution to achieving avialability while also performing backup, by doing on-the-fly duplication of the data onto another file system which can then be backed up at liesure. Doing so in a manner which ensures a true snapshot may be more difficult to achieve, while still ensuring availability. I normally do my backups in single user mode with all file systems mounted read only, except the one to receive the backup. That of course precludes availability during the backup procedure. That's why I would like to see what he actually wants to achieve, instead of how he has chosen to go about it. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data
Agnello George wrote: > Hi > > We have an issue with one of our clients , they have a mail server with > the /var/spool/imap partition as 150 GB . They need to take differential > backup on to /backup partition ( a different HDD of total 250 GB space ) . You've stated things in terms of solutions. You may possibly get better answers if you state your goal. There is some capability you are trying to achieve. Tell us what that is, and you may make more progress. IOW, what is the purpose of the backup? As one mentioned, RAID may handle your needs. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Decompiler?
Hadi Motamedi wrote: > Dear All > I have disassembled the object file on my CentOS server , by the following : > #objdump wmain > In the output , I have recognized the intended subroutine that I need > to find the exact command syntax that it sends out . To this end , I > tried to capture it through 'tcpdump' but didn't success . I read > this segment assembly language code but it is somewhat difficult to > decode . Can you please let me know what CentOS decompiler is > suitable for this case ? I tried with 'decompyle' but it didn't get > through. As a possible answer to this question on a more fundamental level, it has been shown that decompiling is NP-Complete, hence that there is no reasonable way actually to do it in the general case. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recover data on usb drive
fred smith wrote: > > Thanks Barry, it's cranking away now. We'll see if it actually > restores most or all of it. How did that come out? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 5 i386 Live CD
Johnny Hughes wrote: > I forgot to add that the password for root and centos is: > > 12qwaszx > > Johnny Hughes wrote: >> The CentOS Development team is pleased to announce the availability of >> the CentOS 5 i386 Live CD. [...] >> This CD has a non writable /usr directory, which means it is not able to >> have software installed on it after boot up. The CentOS team is working >> hard to create a Live CD for CentOS 5 that is based on the Fedora Live >> CD Project (that is writable in all directories and even able to be used >> for installs) ... unfortunately we were not able to get this working >> with CentOS 5 for this release. We hope to get that Live CD working by >> the release of CentOS 5.1. Did I miss some notices? I don't recall seeing another LiveCD. How is progress coming? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dealing with MS .msg files on Linix
James B. Byrne wrote: > On Mon, November 2, 2009 14:10, Alan Sparks wrote: >> Are they TNEF format? Could something like the following help you? >> Checked the SquirrelMail plugins repo? >> http://squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=62 >> >> > > How can I tell the format from the raw message file? Other than the You can use od to dump the file in octal or hex format, and compare to the definition of the file format for TNEF standard. > XML stuff at the top of the message body it looks much like any > other mime message. > > But I will check out the link. Thank you. > > Regards, > > -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?
Scott Silva wrote: Thanks (even if late!) for the suggestions, I've applied them. A reply in 3 days is late? That is good for a lot of lists. Your thank you almost 2 weeks later is what is late. I think that's what he meant. He put the "even if late" right after the "thanks", indicating that's what was late, the "thanks". Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies
Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip good advice] Oh and don't forget virtualization is your friend in learning! VMware workstation, Parallels, Virtual Box, Xen, Hyper-V, they're all good for learning! Create a VM per-distro, see how each distro installs, see how each is managed. Take snapshots and play around with their configs, see how they break, see if you can fix them, if not revert to the snapshot. Get your feet wet. May I suggest that, if you really want to learn how a Linux system gets put together, and works, then get a copy of Linux from Scratch and build your own? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to check for rootkit, troians etc in backed up files?
M. Fioretti wrote: Hi, there is a remote (VPS) Centos 4.2 server which *may* have been compromised. Reinstalling everything from scratch isn't a problem, it may even be an occasion to improve a few things, the question is another. I use rkhunter and chkrootkit. I run them regularly. If you keep your machine clean, then your backups will be, too. If you get compromised, then your backups since compromise are suspect. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to move my MBR
Scott Moseman wrote: I copied over the MBR from hdc to sda. I found a 4.4 LiveCD, but apparently its damaged so it wouldn't boot. I attempted to put everything back and when I rebooted it went into a GRUB screen instead of a normal boot. I had no idea how to get it to boot from there, so instead of taking the time to figure it out, I decided it was time to make the plunge to CentOS 5. So I'm now on CentOS 5 and my old /home hard drive is completely history. :) You likely overwrote your PT. See my other post. If you can recover your PT, you'll likely get your data back. Before fiddling like this always (1) make a complete backup of your system (2) display and archive your PTs using fdisk or similar (3) make complete copies of your MBRs on each disc, and BRs for each partition. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to move my MBR
Scott Moseman wrote: The BIOS determines which disk (the first) will be chosen to boot from. I have no problems configuring the boot order in the BIOS. I must have the MBR on /dev/hdc (which is being removed). The /boot partition is on /dev/sda (where I want to move MBR). To make a plain bootsector copy: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 sda = old MBR source and sdb = new MBR source, I assume? So, in my instance, I'm going to want to run it in this syntax: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 I'm assuming the first 512 bytes are allocated purely for MBR and won't hold any data that could be overwritten? Would that be true? It is not guaranteed to be true. Every disc has an MBR. The MBR has three fields (depending on how one counts, some say two). One field is the code area, another is the Partition Table (PT) and the third is the Boot Marker (some include this in the PT). You don't want to copy the PT from one disc to another. Copying all 512 bytes will overwrite the PT. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)
Craig White wrote: and I am rapidly losing all respect for you as you seek another forum to pollute with your rant regarding SELinux - now on Fedora-list running 120+ messages I'm not trying to move it over here at all. The topic already came up. I didn't try to move it here, nor am I looking for more fora into which to insert it. Anyone who continues this topic on this list is doing so needlessly because they can simply subscribe to fedora-list and save yet another list from being bogged down. I agree with this. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)
Jim Perrin wrote: On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps switch to another distro which is not yet infected. Why yes, ignoring security or bypassing it alltogether rather than learning how to protect your systems is an EXCELLENT idea. I highly Sarcasm is unbecoming. I suppose you are unaware of the long and bitter discussions on Fedora about SELinux? recommend the 'head in the sand' approach. After all, if you can't see the bad guys poking you're server, they're not actually doing it, right? SELinux does not prevent nor report people "poking your server". Selinux is complicated, but it's getting far more easy to use than SELinux is complicated, FULL STOP. It's a wrong-headed approach. earlier versions (FC2 anyone?) and in combination with other tools, it can provide a rock solid security system. Any security system which is not already rock solid is not going to be made any more secure from attack by adding SELinux. It might possibly suffer somewhat less damage, though that's debatable. For webservers, the belt+suspenders combination of mod_security and selinux is damn near unbeatable. You have personal experience with SELinux "saving" your system? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)
Johnny Hughes wrote: Kenneth Porter wrote: On Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:02 PM -0700 Akemi Yagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ahem, I know this is a CentOS mailing list. BUT, as more and more people migrate from FC to CentOS, I thought placing this reminder here was worthwhile. [I am still running *cough* FC5 on my own desktop, so I am also running out of time] For those of us migrating from ancient versions of Fedora, what gotchas might one expect? [snip] WRT SELinux ... these are your friends: WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps switch to another distro which is not yet infected. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Chroot tool
Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: Hi, Currently I'm working on building chroot environment for a several users. The needs of those users are different, so the binaries and their libraries are differents too. The building process tends to be so tedious. I'm using a odd script to automatize the copy of needed libraries, but it not works very fine. ¿Is there some tool to automatize the chroot jails creation/management? ¿Do you use some kind of shell-script? I haven't used it myself, but http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/howtos_chroot_shell.html is supposed to be pretty good. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Retrive data from repartitioned / reformatted hard drive?
Robert wrote: Niki Kovacs wrote: Hi, The title says it all. One of my clients showed me a 120 GB hard drive that his daughter accidentally formatted, according to him. I booted the first CD I had at hand - a Slackware 11.0 install CD - and launched cdfdisk /dev/hda. cfdisk informed me that there was even no partition table. So much for reformatting. cfdisk only shows me 120 GB of free space. Any way to retrive data on this hard drive? Some magic live distribution to read data on repartitioned / reformatted hard drives? any suggestions? I have used testdisk with excellent results. Read about its features, capabilities and limitations at http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk That at least looks hopeful. Now is the time to instruct your clients on the advisability of backups, I trow. I know, the cows are already out of the barn. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Retrive data from repartitioned / reformatted, hard drive?
David G. Miller wrote: If you just want to confirm that some data is still there, you might try something like: 1) Boot from any Linux live CD (knoppix, Fedora 7, etc.). 2) Open a command window. 3) Assuming this is the only hard drive and it's /dev/hda: dd if=/dev/hda | grep 'some *short* string that should be present' 4) If your string survived, you should see something like "binary file matches'. I wonder how difficult it would be to recognize a BR? Each logical volume (nothing to do with LVM) should have a BR on its first sector. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: If no LiveCD is forthcoming soon, then I'll burn a copy of the CentOS 4 LiveCD and let her try that. Sorry for being rude, but in the meantime, what's wrong with a copy of Scientific Linux 5 LiveCD?! ftp://ftp.psi.ch/psi/livecd/pub/50/ In what way are you being rude? I've started pulling that, just now. Thanks for reminding me. I've known about SciLi for some time, but never thought to look for a LiveCD [snip] Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
Mike McCarty wrote: I use Fedora, myself. But neither of us likes churn. Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine. Reporting the error to Debian got a response which we both considered less than satisfactory. A new HP printer was unusable. We [snip] Sorry for the OT rant. I apologize. Debian is a fairly nice distro. It's a little easier for the not completely technical to manage what's on the machine, I think. But she wants sth which "just runs" moreso now than in the past. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
Daniel de Kok wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 03:17 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine. CentOS 4 works great with older hardware, and is supported with security updates until 2012. There's a CentOS 4.4 live CD available through: http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4.4/isos/i386/ Thanks, I pulled that and checked the checksums. I'll be seeing her tonight, and give it a try. I've heard that CentOS is not the greatest for desktop, but very nice for servers. Would another distro be more suitable for a desktop for a woman who is technically capable, but doesn't want to dive under the hood often, and likes for her new printer "to just work"? Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
Scott Silva wrote: Please, don't let her go to Windows 98. Too out of date for anything that "might" touch the internet. Just trying to prevent one "bot" from being added to the herd! Do you "let" or "prevent" your GF from doing things? I don't. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
Peter Kjellstrom wrote: As much as I like centos, when it comes to bleeding edge hardware I'd try an ubuntu or fedora live-cd (current is ubuntu-7.04 and fedora-7). I use Fedora, myself. But neither of us likes churn. Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine. Reporting the error to Debian got a response which we both considered less than satisfactory. A new HP printer was unusable. We used the standard reporting technique to report the fact, and didn't even get the curtesy of a response. I cobbled up a file which at least let the printer more or less work, and posted it to them, using the standard reporting technique, and again didn't even get a response. She still can't use it for scanning (SANE won't recognize it), nor can she mount her camera flash sticks. When we reported the camera issue, we were told that the problem was the USB dock she uses. Others weighed in claiming that they couldn't use their camera flash mems either, on a variety of USB docks. They were told that they needed different hardware. Months later, another guy posted that he had the same problem she did with the keyboard, and was curtly told that he was full of bull, and didn't know what he was talking about. He then contacted me privately, and I told him that my fix was to install a serial mouse. :-( I don't think of camera memory docks, USB mice, and USB keyboards as being "bleeding edge hardware." Debian is even worse than FC for taking Linux to be a religion. She's about to shift to Windows XP or Widows 98, and abandon Linux altogether. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
Scott Silva wrote: Nevermind. I just checked the torrent and it seems to be dead. Thanks for looking, anyway. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 5 LiveCD - When?
I asked before (about 2 weeks) about this, and was told it was in testing. I wonder when it will be available. My GF is considering leaving Debian due to it not recognizing her hardware very well, and I thought a CentOS 5 LiveCD might be a reasonable way for her to see whether CentOS might do a better job. If no LiveCD is forthcoming soon, then I'll burn a copy of the CentOS 4 LiveCD and let her try that. Thanks. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos