Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Am I asking stupid questions to get no answers?

On 23/02/2012 09:42 AM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Hello
 I've got an un managed VPS running CentOS6
 I'd like to install 2 websites and secure the whole VPS
 I've tried tutorials from the how to forge website but things keep 
 screwing all the time.
 Please if any one can help or give a good working tutorials that would 
 be awesome.
 Thanks a lot
 WI,
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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Actually I am looking for a tutorial or a guide to follow as I am really 
newbie to this world.

On 23/02/2012 12:37 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Am I asking stupid questions to get no answers?

 On 23/02/2012 09:42 AM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Hello
 I've got an un managed VPS running CentOS6
 I'd like to install 2 websites and secure the whole VPS
 I've tried tutorials from the how to forge website but things keep
 screwing all the time.
 Please if any one can help or give a good working tutorials that would
 be awesome.
 Thanks a lot
 WI,
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 It  would help if you're a LOT more specific asto what you've tried
 and what doesn't work.
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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I am afraid if I get hacked and do not know what should i do to setup 
the whole vps the right way.

On 23/02/2012 02:25 PM, Marc Deop wrote:
 On Thursday 23 February 2012 12:25:12 Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Am I asking stupid questions to get no answers?

 They're not stupid, just way too general.

 We could answer something like apache gives me this error: blablabla

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Please suggest a one as I am keep goggling and all result bring books 
dealing with linux as a real server and not a vps.

On 23/02/2012 07:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I am afraid if I get hacked and do not know what should i do to setup
 the whole vps the right way.
 There are many large books on the subject.  If you don't want to spend
 your life staying ahead of the game:
 Use popular software
Don't change defaults you don't understand
Keep it up to date
Use good passwords

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I did and they asked for a 150 usd per hour ... and I do not have that 
money and each time I am asking for a thing I will need to pay again and 
counting.

On 23/02/2012 06:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 5:19 AM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 I am afraid if I get hacked and do not know what should i do to setup
 the whole vps the right way.
 there is no single 'right way'.  security requires a thorough
 understanding of all aspects of the system, this is not something that
 can be dealt with by a 'how to' walkthrough.   hire a systems
 adminstrator with a background in security.
 Or, since it's a VPS, call your ISP's support line and ask them.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I am not using cent os for my daily computing tasks at home or work but 
just for the vps hosting website.
you mean to use web control panel back end or you mean another issue?

On 23/02/2012 07:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I am afraid if I get hacked and do not know what should i do to setup
 the whole vps the right way.
 There are many large books on the subject.  If you don't want to spend
 your life staying ahead of the game:
 Use popular software
Don't change defaults you don't understand
Keep it up to date
Use good passwords

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I'd like to learn indeed but feel like lost in a very big ocean.
please if you may give any outline that would be awesome or even a title 
for a good book to start with.

On 23/02/2012 09:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 and where is the difference between a real server and a VPS
 in the context of a webserver -  hint: there is none!

 you have two choices:

   * read many manuals and learn the needed things
   * to not use VPS at all and switch to a maintained hosting

 there is no easy way for  i have no technical knowledge but i
 want to have simple instructions for making a secure root-server

 if you have not the knowledge, not the time to learn
 and not the money to let do people who can simply
 do not such things!

 Am 23.02.2012 20:05, schrieb Wuxi Ixuw:

 Please suggest a one as I am keep goggling and all result bring books
 dealing with linux as a real server and not a vps.

 On 23/02/2012 07:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com   wrote:
 I am afraid if I get hacked and do not know what should i do to setup
 the whole vps the right way.
 There are many large books on the subject.  If you don't want to spend
 your life staying ahead of the game:
  Use popular software
 Don't change defaults you don't understand
 Keep it up to date
 Use good passwords

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I will use Drupal core and mostly no modules.

On 23/02/2012 09:21 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Please suggest a one as I am keep goggling and all result bring books
 dealing with linux as a real server and not a vps.
 The difference is only in how much the hosting system forces you to
 use certain images and versions, which will likely vary with the
 vendor.  Books on security are always out of date anyway.   The system
 security business is very specialized - plan on spending a lot of
 either time or money if you are going to do anything out of the
 ordinary.  But, unless you have something unique and valuable to
 attack, you mostly have to worry about known exploits on the platform
 you use, and the main thing you can do about it is to keep your
 software updated so you get the fixes as soon as they are available.

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Actually I used to be on a shared hosting and run out of resources many 
times.
I am expecting about 20 k or may be more per day with 400-600 on the 
same time visitors.
This is why I want to go for a VPS.
I did start to learn and keep screwing the whole vps several times.

On 23/02/2012 09:23 PM, Peter Peltonen wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I am not using cent os for my daily computing tasks at home or work but
 just for the vps hosting website.
 If all you want to do is to host a single website then a VPS is an overkill.

 Just a find a hosting service for a webhotel: this way your ISP
 deals with the security of the server and you don't need to worry
 about any operation system level admin stuff.

 It should be a lot cheaper as well.

 Best,
 Peter
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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I mean something like ISPConfig , VirtualMin, WebMin, ..etc

On 23/02/2012 09:27 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I am not using cent os for my daily computing tasks at home or work but
 just for the vps hosting website.
 you mean to use web control panel back end or you mean another issue?
 I don't have any idea what a 'web control panel back end is' since
 that is not a stock centos feature.  CentOS itself packages updates as
 soon as possible after they are released and on a non VPS system you
 would use 'yum update' to install them.  And normally you want to do
 that as soon as possible because when the updates are published, the
 vulnerabilities that they fix are obvious and often even explained in
 public.

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
managed web hosting is really expensive.

On 23/02/2012 09:39 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Wuxi Ixuww7u64...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I am not using cent os for my daily computing tasks at home or work but
 just for the vps hosting website.
 you mean to use web control panel back end or you mean another issue?
 I don't have any idea what a 'web control panel back end is' since
 that is not a stock centos feature.  CentOS itself packages updates as
 I'd guess he's talking cPanel.

 soon as possible after they are released and on a non VPS system you
 would use 'yum update' to install them.  And normally you want to do
 that as soon as possible because when the updates are published, the
 vulnerabilities that they fix are obvious and often even explained in
 public.
 Actually, I assume that my hosting provider is regularly updating system
 software. I should probably look, but I think I'm paying for that, as part
 of what they do... which is also very much to their own benefit.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
thanks a lot for these steps, I will follow them and hope to find all up 
and running.

On 23/02/2012 09:41 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 11:05 AM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Please suggest a one as I am keep goggling and all result bring books
 dealing with linux as a real server and not a vps.
 you could do worse than starting here...
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Security_Guide/

 VPS and real hardware work exactly the same once the software is installed.

 my base level suggestions:

* start with a *minimal* install of the latest release (currently 6.2)
* create your user account, give both user and root account different
  secure passwords
* secure the SSH server (no root, key instead of password
  authentication, only allow ssh from your home/office networks or a
  few secure 'bastion' hosts, etc)
* yum update right after install and reboot
* install *just* the services you need, only from trustworthy yum
  repositories
* secure the services you install as appropriate
* document your configuration, including what packages you needed to
  install
* script a secure backup of your configuration specific conf and data
  files to reliable offsite storage.
* plan on regular yum updates, and staying up on security alerts, such
  as CERT


 by far the biggest threat to servers are things installed on top of
 them, like web applications...  for instance the very popular WordPress
 has a long and checkered history of security exploits, ranging from
 annoying to root elevation...
 http://www.wordpressexploit.com/

 ANY user written web code has to be designed with security in mind, no
 matter how insignificant your little web server is, its valuable to the
 black hats as a proxy for their evil, and the worms and exploit scanners
 will find a wide range of poor design

 http://xkcd.com/327/



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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Actually I read many times that geek people used to use a Linux computer 
as a firewall for their network but never figured out how they do so.


On 23/02/2012 09:52 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 11:05 AM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Please suggest a one as I am keep goggling and all result bring books
 dealing with linux as a real server and not a vps.
 you could do worse than starting here...
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Security_Guide/

 VPS and real hardware work exactly the same once the software is
 installed.

 my base level suggestions:

* start with a *minimal* install of the latest release (currently 6.2)
* create your user account, give both user and root account different
  secure passwords
 I was assuming his provider gave him a working system, not virtual bare
 metal.

* secure the SSH server (no root, key instead of password
  authentication, only allow ssh from your home/office networks or a
  few secure 'bastion' hosts, etc)
* yum update right after install and reboot
 Yup.

* install *just* the services you need, only from trustworthy yum
  repositories
 YES! For about 10 years, I ran an old rh (NOT RHEL) system as a
 firewall/router for my home network. I ran Bastille Linux over it - which
 is *not* a distro, but a set of hardening scripts. Great stuff, and NIST
 recommendations these days refer to it, last time I looked.

 After running Bastille, *then* I got paranoid: I never installed X
 (security holes), or *any* compiler, or language I didn't absolutely need
 (no gcc, yes to perl). No nuttin'... and to the best of my knowledge,
 though I did see scans, I never had an intrusion, partly due to firewall
 rules of DROP, and partly because they had nothing to use to run their
 nasties.

 If it got installed, and you don't need it, don't only turn it off, yum
 remove. At work, and home, I certainly don't need either bluetooth or
 avahi running, on wired boxen.

* secure the services you install as appropriate
* document your configuration, including what packages you needed to
  install
 YES. You do *not* want to be trying to figure out what you'd done, a year
 from now, at 17:00 on a Friday, or 02:00 some morning.

* script a secure backup of your configuration specific conf and data
  files to reliable offsite storage.
 Yup. Or have the full website, and all configuration files for the system,
 on your machine at home or work, so you can just upload the whole thing.

* plan on regular yum updates, and staying up on security alerts, such
  as CERT
 snip
 RH, and this offshot I know of, called CentOS, are pretty good at
 announcing security fixes in a timely manner (take a bow, Johnny).

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
What shall I use then?
I did goggled a lot for what I should use and found that Drupal is so 
far the best CMS compared to Joomla or Wordpress.

On 23/02/2012 10:26 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 12:16 PM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 I will use Drupal core and mostly no modules.
 Drupal has had its share of exploits, too.
 http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1367/product_id-2387/Drupal-Drupal.html


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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Ok,
I've made up my mind to dive and learn ... so to learn the right way 
like what professional do ... what shall I do?

On 23/02/2012 10:56 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 On 23/02/2012 10:26 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 12:16 PM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 I will use Drupal core and mostly no modules.
 Drupal has had its share of exploits, too.
 http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1367/product_id-2387/Drupal-Drupal.html

 What shall I use then?
 I did goggled a lot for what I should use and found that Drupal is so
 far the best CMS compared to Joomla or Wordpress.
 You need to get your head around the idea that *NOTHING* is ultimately
 safe. To paraphrase the stupid phrase, vigilance is the price of liberty
 (of your system from the bad guys)

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
And do I need a recent computer for the linux one or an old one can do so?
I mean something like Pentium 4 or Pentium D may fits?

On 23/02/2012 10:58 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 12:47 PM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Actually I read many times that geek people used to use a Linux computer
 as a firewall for their network but never figured out how they do so.
 install linux on a computer with two ethernet cards.  connect eth0 to
 your internet connection, and eth1 to your local network.   configure
 iptables firewall rules in the linux system.  or install pfsense on that
 same computer.



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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
what do you mean?

On 23/02/2012 11:10 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 It will find more hardware errors
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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Here at local stores we have a used branded computers like Dell optiPlex 
GX 620 ... so I mean something like this ... it is sold for 80 usd.


On 23/02/2012 11:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 1:00 PM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 And do I need a recent computer for the linux one or an old one can do so?
 I mean something like Pentium 4 or Pentium D may fits?
 for a SOHO firewall, I would want to use something very reliable and low
 power, quiet.   CPU isn't at all important, reliability is.

 If I was buying something, I'd probably get a little ITX box like alix
 http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm
 or soekris
 http://soekris.com/products/net4501-1.html

and run pfSense on it, using it strictly as a pure firewall not a
 general purpose computer.


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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
This is a fortune !
Sure you deserve but it i s beyond my ability.
But thanks for offering :)

On 23/02/2012 11:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/23/12 12:54 PM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Really thanks a lot for your reply.
 Please is it possible if you have a little time to talk in messenger
 or use team viewer to connect to my computer?
 Thanks a lot :)
 I wouldn't do that sort of thing for less than US$1000/day.  I'm way to
 busy to be doing your job too.

 (you can find much cheaper systems adminstrators, I'm an engineer).


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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I will install it as the only operating system on this machine.


On 24/02/2012 12:08 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 what do you mean?

 On 23/02/2012 11:10 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 It will find more hardware errors
 Windows uses hardware sloppily, and not that well. Linux, like all
 versions of Unix, uses much more of the hardware's capabilities. Try
 running Linux on the same hardware as Windows: my fiancee's 14-yr-old son
 is dual booting his T-60 laptop, and *he* sees the difference in speed
 (Linux being that much faster).

 mark

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[CentOS] How to setup a computer using CentOS6 as a firewall for the whole network in my place?

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Hello
in one of the emails I sent earlier ; mark (m.r...@5-cent.us) mentioned:

 install linux on a computer with two ethernet cards.  connect eth0 to
 your internet connection, and eth1 to your local network.   configure
 iptables firewall rules in the linux system.  or install pfsense on that
 same computer.

Please if any one can help with more details and example for the 
configuration that would be awesome.

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Ok, I've found many versions from it, one for 700 MB and others for a 
DVD, which one I should get?

On 24/02/2012 12:30 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Thursday, February 23, 2012 03:58:10 PM Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Ok,
 I've made up my mind to dive and learn ... so to learn the right way
 like what professional do ... what shall I do?
 First, try not to top post.

 Second, download the CentOS 6.2 installation media and install it on your own 
 hardware, reading through the excellent upstream documentation (linked from 
 the www.centos.org website).  Read through the CentOS wiki HOWTOs and such.  
 And play around with your system, feeling free to reinstall it (or re-clone 
 it, for a VM) at any time.  Live with it to learn it, really.

 HowtoForge has some nice articles on setting up servers to do various things; 
 read through a few that use CentOS 6 as the base, and attempt to implement on 
 you testing CentOS server.  Then attempt on your VPS.

 Expect to spend quite a bit of time on the process; Rome wasn't built in a 
 day, and neither is admin experience.
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Re: [CentOS] How to setup a computer using CentOS6 as a firewall for the whole network in my place?

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I think your words makes more sense and counting.
For a newbie one like me ... which option you would advise me to go for?
I do not have any special preferences but I do care  for the one that is 
more stable and provide really more security.
Thanks

On 24/02/2012 01:02 AM, Miguel Medalha wrote:

 Why does it have to be CentOS? If you want a wonderful router/firewall 
 that you can have up and running in a few minutes, you should look at 
 this:

 www.pfsense.org

 I quote from their website:

 pfSense is a free, open source customized distribution of FreeBSD 
 http://www.freebsd.org tailored for use as a firewall and router. In 
 addition to being a powerful, flexible firewalling and routing 
 platform, it includes a long list of related features and a package 
 system allowing further expandability without adding bloat and 
 potential security vulnerabilities to the base distribution.


 If you insist in using Linux instead, you could look at this:

 www.ipcop.org

 Once again, a distro specialized on the function it performs.

 Why have a generic and bloated system that you then have to customize 
 from scratch when such wonderful specialized projects already exist?

 I use Linux servers and a pfsense firewall to protect the network. 
 Works like a charm, with amazing stability and reliability.

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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Is it advised to install on a virtual machine like vmware or a real 
computer?

On 24/02/2012 01:22 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Thursday, February 23, 2012 05:35:32 PM Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Ok, I've found many versions from it, one for 700 MB and others for a
 DVD, which one I should get?
 While I specifically stated the installation media, you should get both the 
 DVD1 and DVD2; specifically, assuming a 32-bit system (you mentioned trying 
 on a Pentium 4 or Pentium D, so 64-bit may not be an option, and isn't really 
 necessary for a 'lab' machine anyway; you do need as much memory as you can 
 cram in that old Optiplex, with an absolute minimu of 1GB (and it's going to 
 top out less than 4GB anyway)), you need to download, from a mirror:
 CentOS-6.2-i386-bin-DVD1.iso
 CentOS-6.2-i386-bin-DVD2.iso

 While DVD2 is somewhat optional, it won't hurt to have it on hand just in 
 case.

 The LiveDVD and LiveCD options boot up to a usable desktop, and you can 
 install from them, but if you're wanting the *server* install experience you 
 need the others, not the LiveDVD or LiveCD.

 Now, go give it a whirl, make sure you read the documentation on installation 
 on the CentOS.org website, and come back in a few days when you've played 
 with that installation a while.
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Re: [CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-23 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
But I will install cent os 6 32 bit on the vps later on.

On 24/02/2012 02:25 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
 On 02/24/2012 12:25 PM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Is it advised to install on a virtual machine like vmware or a real
 computer?
 If you are going to use CentOS 6 - as a VM host it must be installed on
 a 64 bit architecture!
 On 24/02/2012 01:22 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Thursday, February 23, 2012 05:35:32 PM Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 Ok, I've found many versions from it, one for 700 MB and others for a
 DVD, which one I should get?
 While I specifically stated the installation media, you should get both the 
 DVD1 and DVD2; specifically, assuming a 32-bit system (you mentioned trying 
 on a Pentium 4 or Pentium D, so 64-bit may not be an option, and isn't 
 really necessary for a 'lab' machine anyway; you do need as much memory as 
 you can cram in that old Optiplex, with an absolute minimu of 1GB (and it's 
 going to top out less than 4GB anyway)), you need to download, from a 
 mirror:
 CentOS-6.2-i386-bin-DVD1.iso
 CentOS-6.2-i386-bin-DVD2.iso

 While DVD2 is somewhat optional, it won't hurt to have it on hand just in 
 case.

 The LiveDVD and LiveCD options boot up to a usable desktop, and you can 
 install from them, but if you're wanting the *server* install experience 
 you need the others, not the LiveDVD or LiveCD.

 Now, go give it a whirl, make sure you read the documentation on 
 installation on the CentOS.org website, and come back in a few days when 
 you've played with that installation a while.
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[CentOS] Please I'd like to install 2 websites on my un managed VPS on CentOS6

2012-02-22 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
Hello
I've got an un managed VPS running CentOS6
I'd like to install 2 websites and secure the whole VPS
I've tried tutorials from the how to forge website but things keep 
screwing all the time.
Please if any one can help or give a good working tutorials that would 
be awesome.
Thanks a lot
WI,
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Re: [CentOS] Please may you help me setup VPS

2012-02-21 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
A gentle reminder please :)

On 20/02/2012 12:06 AM, Wuxi Ixuw wrote:
 I am new to Linux so I do not have any special preferences.
 Yes I have a root access and the VPS is un managed.
 I am newbie to the Linux world.
 I will have a new website or maybe 3.
 I've found that un managed costs vary a lot, as I've found various 
 ways for settings ... some using Xen, others using OpenVZ, and other 
 using Virtuozzo and I found that it all vary regarding Ram allocations 
 for each VPS.
 Also afraid to stuck with some over sell VPS as I had it before with 
 shared hosting.
 For un managed hosting VPS will it be easy to secure the server from 
 being hacked? or it is an impossible job for a newbie guy like me?
 Also for later on regarding updates or patching ... will it be good as 
 well or not?
 Finally I've found most people using Ubuntu server LTS, so do you 
 advise of using it or any other distribution?
 I've read a lot of reviews that most are advising for using CentOS or 
 Debian, but I've found the majority are already using Ubuntu server.
 Thanks and too much appreciated your time reading and value your inputs.

 Note:
 After a lot of reading I've found that the steps should be as follow: 
 (the funny thing that I've read and know what I should do but each 
 time I am trying to run a command using PUTTY I get an error)
 - change root password to a secure one.
 - create another user with admin access with a strong password as well.
 - disable root remotely access.
 - use secure connection to the VPS by using PUTTY key instead of 
 username and password login .
 - change the port to a high one with unusual figure like 26127 or any 
 else
 - disable ftp and use another secure one.
 - install a fire wall, CSF firewall and Mod_security or anything else 
 equal or more.
 - keep the whole thing up-to-date.
 - secure the whole VPS as much as possible.
 - finally use a trusted script on the website and his why I will use 
 Drupal (mostly the core ones and nothing else without any modules).

 This is what I've got so far from reading many tutorials and still get 
 a lot of errors when I follow them (howtoforge.com) is one of the 
 famous websites I've visited.

 Sorry for being long ... But I am really hope if you here be able to 
 help or guide me.

 - Late Edit -
 I've forget to mention that some steps I've forget to mention are:
 - using back ed control panel (like ISP config, VirtualMin) is 
 facilitating the task but make VPS less secure, so using the command .
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[CentOS] Please may you help me setup VPS

2012-02-19 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
I am new to Linux so I do not have any special preferences.
Yes I have a root access and the VPS is un managed.
I am newbie to the Linux world.
I will have a new website or maybe 3.
I've found that un managed costs vary a lot, as I've found various ways 
for settings ... some using Xen, others using OpenVZ, and other using 
Virtuozzo and I found that it all vary regarding Ram allocations for 
each VPS.
Also afraid to stuck with some over sell VPS as I had it before with 
shared hosting.
For un managed hosting VPS will it be easy to secure the server from 
being hacked? or it is an impossible job for a newbie guy like me?
Also for later on regarding updates or patching ... will it be good as 
well or not?
Finally I've found most people using Ubuntu server LTS, so do you advise 
of using it or any other distribution?
I've read a lot of reviews that most are advising for using CentOS or 
Debian, but I've found the majority are already using Ubuntu server.
Thanks and too much appreciated your time reading and value your inputs.

Note:
After a lot of reading I've found that the steps should be as follow: 
(the funny thing that I've read and know what I should do but each time 
I am trying to run a command using PUTTY I get an error)
- change root password to a secure one.
- create another user with admin access with a strong password as well.
- disable root remotely access.
- use secure connection to the VPS by using PUTTY key instead of 
username and password login .
- change the port to a high one with unusual figure like 26127 or any else
- disable ftp and use another secure one.
- install a fire wall, CSF firewall and Mod_security or anything else 
equal or more.
- keep the whole thing up-to-date.
- secure the whole VPS as much as possible.
- finally use a trusted script on the website and his why I will use 
Drupal (mostly the core ones and nothing else without any modules).

This is what I've got so far from reading many tutorials and still get a 
lot of errors when I follow them (howtoforge.com) is one of the famous 
websites I've visited.

Sorry for being long ... But I am really hope if you here be able to 
help or guide me.

- Late Edit -
I've forget to mention that some steps I've forget to mention are:
- using back ed control panel (like ISP config, VirtualMin) is 
facilitating the task but make VPS less secure, so using the command .
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Re: [CentOS] Really bad KVM disk performance

2012-02-19 Thread Wuxi Ixuw
How much did you paid for this?

On 20/02/2012 07:26 AM, Bob Puff wrote:
 Hi Gang,

 I recently rented a server at a datacenter with Centos 5.7 X64, Q9550
 Processor, 8GB Ram, and dual 250GB SATA HDs (with 16mb cache).  They had
 loaded it with KVM, and installed a 30-day trial of Virtualizor as the
 front-end for KVM.

 I was so impressed with how fasts the guests ran that I want to build a few of
 these machines for myself.  I just installed one: same Q9550 processor, 4GB
 ram, and dual 250GB SATA HDs (with 32mb cache).  I installed Centos 6.2 X64,
 and installed Webmin's Cloudmin as the front-end.

 Immediately when I was installing stuff, I could tell this new system I just
 built was not nearly as fast as the first one.  I ran some CPU and disk
 benchmarking programs, and saw that while the CPU stuff tested similarly, the
 disk thruput was much different... Down-right poor in one of the guests!

 On both systems, /dev/md2 is a LVM reserved exclusively for KVM guests.  So
 each guest is running in its own logical volume, in software raid.

 Thinking there may be something wrong with the HDs, I ran Bonnie (
 http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ ) and compared both host machines.  They
 tested fairly similar (within 10%).  Yet comparing their guests is like night
 and day. Example:

 On good machine's Centos 5.7 x32 guest install:
 # hdparm -tT /dev/hda

 /dev/hda:
   Timing cached reads:   26760 MB in  1.99 seconds = 13417.10 MB/sec
   Timing buffered disk reads:  388 MB in  3.01 seconds = 128.86 MB/sec

 On my machine's Centos 5.7 x32 guest install:
 # hdparm -tT /dev/hda

 /dev/hda:
   Timing cached reads:   1864 MB in  2.16 seconds = 863.87 MB/sec
   Timing buffered disk reads:  358 MB in  3.08 seconds = 116.17 MB/sec

 On one of my machine's Mandrake 8.2 x32 guest install:
 # hdparm -tT /dev/hda

 /dev/hda:
   Timing buffer-cache reads:   27000 MB in  2.00 seconds = 13500.00 MB/sec
   Timing buffered disk reads:   12 MB in  3.66 seconds =   3.28 MB/sec

 On that system, the hdparm's -i output shows:
 # hdparm -i /dev/hda

 /dev/hda:

   Model=QEMU HARDDISK, FwRev=0.12.1, SerialNo=QM1
   Config={ Fixed }
   RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=32256, SectSize=512, ECCbytes=4
   BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=256kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
   CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=73400320
   IORDY=yes, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
   PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2
   DMA modes:  sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
   UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
   AdvancedPM=no
   Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-5 published, ANSI NCITS 340-2000:

   * signifies the current active mode

 The bonnie numbers show for sequential output:
 Good Machine Host: 76,857K/Sec
 My Machine Host: 72,561K/Sec

 Good Machine Centos 5.7 Guest: 66,266K/sec
 My Machine Centos 5.7 Guest: 20,623K/sec
 My machine Mandrake Guest: 1,365K/sec

 Where should I look?  I realize I do have two different front-ends to KVM, and
 perhaps they are passing different parameters to it.  I am also running the
 KVM from Centos 6.2 on my machine, vs the other server is running on 5.7, but
 I would have thought that newer is better.  Also note that my hard drives
 have a larger cache.


 On a side note, I'm not thrilled with the Virtualizor's tech support, but the
 product seems easy to use, once it actually works.  Cloudmin seems to be
 buggy, and not let you do things like change cd images on the fly, access the
 console before the machine fully boots (!)... Any suggestions on other,
 preferably open-source options?  I'm a definite newbie to this virtualization
 stuff.

 Bob


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