Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-28 Thread Max Pyziur
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, Louis Lagendijk wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 06:14 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
 Greetings,

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

 yes, they are ghost files, not really included in the package

I cribbed mine from a prior release from another machine of mine, 
and dropped them in /etc.

One favorite of mine is being able to ctrl-Z out of a program. The 
default installation of alpine, with no *.conf files, wouldn't allow that. 
Now, I can.

 Louis



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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-28 Thread Rex Dieter
Max Pyziur wrote:

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

It's a packaging trick, those files are marked

%ghost %config 

-- rex

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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-27 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 06:14 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration 
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

yes, they are ghost files, not really included in the package

Louis

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[CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread Max Pyziur

Greetings,

The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration 
files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps 
flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 
protection]?

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread me
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:


 Greetings,

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

 Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps
 flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777
 protection]?

There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you
ask for help on the correct mailing.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread SilverTip257
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:

 On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:

 
  Greetings,
 
  The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
  files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?
 
  Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that
 keeps
  flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777
  protection]?

 There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you


Maybe he's using an RPM from Scientific Linux
http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/5x/features/added


 ask for help on the correct mailing.


Regardless, CentOS doesn't package pine/alpine.



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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:

 On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:


 Greetings,

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

 Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps
 flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777
 protection]?

 There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you
 ask for help on the correct mailing.

I got it from @epel repositories:
Installed Packages
alpine.x86_64 
2.03-2.el6 
@epel

It seems fairly common in the Fedora/CentOS realm to rely on packages from 
other key repositories. Rackspace recommends installing yum repo files for 
CentOS.

As for (al)pine, it's an easier mail client (for me) than mutt.

On CentOS 5, installations of the alpine rpm included the /etc/*conf 
files.

 Regards,




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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread SilverTip257
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote:

 On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:

  On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:
 
 
  Greetings,
 
  The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
  files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?
 
  Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that
 keeps
  flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777
  protection]?
 
  There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you
  ask for help on the correct mailing.

 I got it from @epel repositories:
 Installed Packages
 alpine.x86_64
 2.03-2.el6
 @epel


Gotcha.
EPEL/Fedora would be the ones to ask.  Chances are you'll find someone
there who uses alpine.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

There are many Fedora mailing lists -- the Users list is a good place to
start.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users



 It seems fairly common in the Fedora/CentOS realm to rely on packages from
 other key repositories. Rackspace recommends installing yum repo files for
 CentOS.


 As for (al)pine, it's an easier mail client (for me) than mutt.


 On CentOS 5, installations of the alpine rpm included the /etc/*conf
 files.

  Regards,
 
 


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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread m . roth
Max Pyziur wrote:

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

 Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps
 flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777
 protection]?

I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing
list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the folder vulnerable,
then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Max Pyziur wrote:

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

 Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps
 flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777
 protection]?

 I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing
 list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the folder vulnerable,
 then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.

Ok, then.

I find the users list on fedoraproject challenging.

The stated vulnerability is a known bug in alpine, and it has been there 
for a long time. Many lists have complaints about it, but it doesn't seem 
to get the attention of the developers/maintainers.

Likewise, ours are set to 775, inboxes set to 600 (that way dovecot 
doesn't complain).

  mark


Thank you for your help.

MP
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Re: [CentOS] (Al)pine on CentOS 6

2013-03-26 Thread m . roth
Max Pyziur wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Max Pyziur wrote:

 The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration
 files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there.  Possible?

 Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that
 keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have
 1777 protection]?

 I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing
 list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the folder vulnerable,
 then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.

 Ok, then.

 I find the users list on fedoraproject challenging.

Heh, heh. We can be touchy, here, too... but when someone comes in who's
actually read manpages, and googled, before coming here - in other words,
they don't expect us to do their jobs, just help them do it, we usually
try to help.

 The stated vulnerability is a known bug in alpine, and it has been there
 for a long time. Many lists have complaints about it, but it doesn't seem
 to get the attention of the developers/maintainers.

Oh. Right. Fixing bugs isn't sexy, esp. when it's an annoying invalid
message. I wish upstream would do something about that annoying complaint
in my logfiles about hung task that tells me how to turn it off

 Likewise, ours are set to 775, inboxes set to 600 (that way dovecot
 doesn't complain).

Sounds good to me.

 Thank you for your help.

Sorry I couldn't help more.

mark

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