Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 future

[Leon Fauster via CentOS]

Am 09.12.20 um 20:28 schrieb Jon Pruente:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:24 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS 
mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote:


 > The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some
decisions to
 > make.  The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but*
there is
 > a fully available upgrade path from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS
Stream 8
 > (IE: not a reinstall), and that will take them to 2024.  That's
half of
 > the 10 years they might have expected, but it should let them give
 > Stream a try and see if it is for them or not.

If "Stream" is the base for the next RHEL8.x where are the updates
until
2029 coming from, when CentOS Stream 8 will be shutdown at 2024?


I think you've confused some dates, unless you have a link to the 
2024 date for Stream 8. CentOS 7 will continue until 2024. CentOS Stream 
8 doesn't have a clear EOL, but it is presumably at or before the end of 
RHEL 8 in 2029. CentOS 8 EOL has been yanked back to 2021.


https://centos.org/centos-stream/ 
 > End-of-life
 > N/A


No, its exactly as I said:

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2020-December/352340.html

https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q13-can-i-start-up-a-sig-that-will-maintain-centos-stream-8-after-rhel8-reaches-the-end-of-full-support

(full-support -> 2024).

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 future

[Leon Fauster via CentOS]

Am 09.12.20 um 04:18 schrieb Mike McGrath:



On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:30 PM Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel 
mailto:centos-de...@centos.org>> wrote:


Am 08.12.20 um 23:22 schrieb Matthew Miller:
 > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 12:44:36PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage
via CentOS wrote:
 >>> CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed
CentOS8 on my
 >>> production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think
 >>> about this?
 >> Speaking only for myself, I am ready to give up on CentOS (and
Red Hat)
 >> entirely. Fedora meets all my clients' needs with none of the chaos.
 >
 > I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence in Fedora! You're
not alone
 > in using Fedora in a lot of serious ways.
 >
 > However, I really encourage everyone to give this a chance. This is
 > (post-Fedora) RHEL development opening up in a new way, and CentOS is
 > central to it. That's a good place to be!
 >
 >

Its important to distinguish two aspects here in this whole discussion.

Its great that RH opens their "firewalls". CentOS Stream is great
for that but what actually pissed the people off is the termination
of CentOS8 Linux. So all arguments for C8S doesn't touch the problem
that people have now. And no - C8S is not a valid substitution. Its
valid for a different usage scenario that is of course worth to get a
chance but the mentioned problem don't get addressed ...


I agree the timing of this isn't great but keep in mind the vast 
majority of CentOS users are on CentOS Linux 7, they have the full 
lifecycle they expected.


The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some decisions to 
make.  The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but* there is 
a fully available upgrade path from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS Stream 8 
(IE: not a reinstall), and that will take them to 2024.  That's half of 
the 10 years they might have expected, but it should let them give 
Stream a try and see if it is for them or not.


If "Stream" is the base for the next RHEL8.x where are the updates until 
2029 coming from, when CentOS Stream 8 will be shutdown at 2024?


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