Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-19 Thread Marc Deop
On Monday 18 July 2011 20:59:18 Keith Roberts wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Keith Roberts wrote:
 
  To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
  From: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net
  Subject: Re: [CentOS] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)
  
  On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 
  To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
  From: m.r...@5-cent.us
  Subject: Re: [CentOS] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)
 
  Keith Roberts wrote:
  I have my main machine running Centos 5.6, and it has a HP
  Deskjet 810c printer physically attached to it. CUPSD
  broadcasts in on my LAN as the default printer. I can print
  to the default HP printer over the LAN, from a laptop
  running Centos 5.6.
 
  However, I do have problems trying to print to this
  same printer over the LAN, from a laptop running
  M$ Vista.
 
  Has anyone been able to print from a machine running M$
  Windoze Vista to their CUPS LAN printer running on Centos
  5.x please. All I need to know is yes, this works, or no
  it's not possible.
  snip
  Dunno 'bout 5.6, but 5.4, 5.5, sure. We had people doing that.
 
  Thanks Mark - that's all I need to know.
 
  If it works for 5.4/5 there's not reason for it not to work
  on 5.6
 
  Now I know it's possible to do, I will spend time on reading
  the documentation and seeking a solution myself.
 
  I'm not looking to be spoon fed three times daily - LOL!
 
 OK, thanks again for confirming that Mark. I have it working 
 now fine. Here are the notes I've made for the next time I 
 have to reinstall Windoze Bista.
 
 ++
 
 Install Wireshark, and then install the HP Deskjet 810c 
 Inkjet printer driver. (Use the 812c - it's close enough)
 
 Notes for setting up CUPS HP Deskjet 810c printer
 to be able to print across LAN from Vista Home.
 
 Install the printer following this guide:
 
 http://www.divms.uiowa.edu/help/windows/printers_vista/
 
 Using Wireshark Network Analyser I got the following error under
 the IPP menu when trying to print a test document:
 
 Status-code: client-error-document-format-not-supported
 
 Googling for that returned the following forum article:
 
 http://mindspill.net/computing/cross-platform-notes/cups-client-error-document-format-not-
supported.html
 
 Following the above article and making the suggested changes
 fixed the printing from Vista to Centos 5.6 CUPS problem:
 
 The problem
 
 Printing fails from Windows, with the following message in
 /var/log/cups/access_log (on the linux box):
 
 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported
 
 The solution ?
 
 Make sure you've enabled support for Windows PCL drivers.
 
 Uncomment application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.types
 and uncomment application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.convs.
 
 I made those changes, actually created a local.types and local.convs file
 in /etc/cups/ and stopped and restarted the cups server.
 
 Restarting the print job under Vista, and the printer responded
 immediately. The Status-code in Wireshark has now changed to
 succesful-ok
 
 I got a Windows Printer Test Page with details of the printer
 setup, and Additional files used by this driver.
 

Thanks for sharing this information Keith :)

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[CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Keith Roberts wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)
 
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: m.r...@5-cent.us
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

 Keith Roberts wrote:
 I have my main machine running Centos 5.6, and it has a HP
 Deskjet 810c printer physically attached to it. CUPSD
 broadcasts in on my LAN as the default printer. I can print
 to the default HP printer over the LAN, from a laptop
 running Centos 5.6.

 However, I do have problems trying to print to this
 same printer over the LAN, from a laptop running
 M$ Vista.

 Has anyone been able to print from a machine running M$
 Windoze Vista to their CUPS LAN printer running on Centos
 5.x please. All I need to know is yes, this works, or no
 it's not possible.
 snip
 Dunno 'bout 5.6, but 5.4, 5.5, sure. We had people doing that.

 Thanks Mark - that's all I need to know.

 If it works for 5.4/5 there's not reason for it not to work
 on 5.6

 Now I know it's possible to do, I will spend time on reading
 the documentation and seeking a solution myself.

 I'm not looking to be spoon fed three times daily - LOL!

OK, thanks again for confirming that Mark. I have it working 
now fine. Here are the notes I've made for the next time I 
have to reinstall Windoze Bista.

++

Install Wireshark, and then install the HP Deskjet 810c 
Inkjet printer driver. (Use the 812c - it's close enough)

Notes for setting up CUPS HP Deskjet 810c printer
to be able to print across LAN from Vista Home.

Install the printer following this guide:

http://www.divms.uiowa.edu/help/windows/printers_vista/

Using Wireshark Network Analyser I got the following error under
the IPP menu when trying to print a test document:

Status-code: client-error-document-format-not-supported

Googling for that returned the following forum article:

http://mindspill.net/computing/cross-platform-notes/cups-client-error-document-format-not-supported.html

Following the above article and making the suggested changes
fixed the printing from Vista to Centos 5.6 CUPS problem:

The problem

Printing fails from Windows, with the following message in
/var/log/cups/access_log (on the linux box):

Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported

The solution ?

Make sure you've enabled support for Windows PCL drivers.

Uncomment application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.types
and uncomment application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.convs.

I made those changes, actually created a local.types and local.convs file
in /etc/cups/ and stopped and restarted the cups server.

Restarting the print job under Vista, and the printer responded
immediately. The Status-code in Wireshark has now changed to
succesful-ok

I got a Windows Printer Test Page with details of the printer
setup, and Additional files used by this driver.

++

So that's it fixed now.

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread m . roth
Keith Roberts wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Keith Roberts wrote:
 From: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 From: m.r...@5-cent.us
 Keith Roberts wrote:
 I have my main machine running Centos 5.6, and it has a HP
 Deskjet 810c printer physically attached to it. CUPSD
 broadcasts in on my LAN as the default printer. I can print
 to the default HP printer over the LAN, from a laptop
 running Centos 5.6.

 However, I do have problems trying to print to this
 same printer over the LAN, from a laptop running
 M$ Vista.
snip
 So that's it fixed now.

Congrats, Keith, and thanks for the well-detailed solution.

   mark now if I can get my fiancee to at least upgrade
 to Win7

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 16:18 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 mark now if I can get my fiancee to at least upgrade
  to Win7

Surely the best fiancees share our love of, and use of, Centos ;-)


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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

*snip*

 Congrats, Keith, and thanks for the well-detailed solution.

   mark now if I can get my fiancee to at least upgrade
 to Win7

YW Mark and list members :)

That well-detailed solution is for some time in the future. 
It's fresh in my mind now, but 3 months from now there's no 
telling how much I'm gonna remember.

So what is your fiancee running ATM - XP or 98?

Kind Regards,

Keith

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread m . roth
Keith Roberts wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 *snip*

 Congrats, Keith, and thanks for the well-detailed solution.

   mark now if I can get my fiancee to at least upgrade
 to Win7

 YW Mark and list members :)

 That well-detailed solution is for some time in the future.
 It's fresh in my mind now, but 3 months from now there's no
 telling how much I'm gonna remember.

 So what is your fiancee running ATM - XP or 98?

Worse: Vista. Gotta get her to spring for *anything* better (which was
worse: Vista, or '98? I assume the bottom of the heap was Lose Me*).

   mark

* As friends told me in the mid-nineties, you don't win with Windows, you
lose, so it was Lose95, Lose98, and the *perfectly* named LoseMe

PS: she won't be moving in for another year, so when she's over, she'll be
on my CentOS system, and I'll see if I can get her comfortable with it

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 22:17 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:

 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

mark now if I can get my fiancee to at least upgrade
  to Win7

 So what is your fiancee running ATM - XP or 98?

Windoze 3.11 ? I've still have a  copy :-)


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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Always Learning wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: Always Learning cen...@u6.u22.net
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)
 

 On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 22:17 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:

 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

   mark now if I can get my fiancee to at least upgrade
 to Win7

 So what is your fiancee running ATM - XP or 98?

 Windoze 3.11 ? I've still have a  copy :-)

They were running that at college in 88-90 on AT 286's. And 
a Vax machine with terminals running BSD Unix IIRC?

And I thought Windoze 3.11 was really hot stuff then - doh!

I've still got my MS-DOS boot disks that came with my XT 
8088 machine.

Regards,

Keith

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] CUPS LAN printing problem (from Vista)

2011-07-18 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 22:58 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:

 And I thought Windoze 3.11 was really hot stuff then - doh!

So did I. It was single-tasking but you could turn-off the machine at
any stage and it would always restart perfectly well without the
slightest problem. Then came Windoze 95, which critics called Apple Mac
1986, followed by Windoze 98 with errors and bugs galore then Windoze 98
second attempt to get it right then followed by M$'s third attempt at a
98 product called Windoze ME.

Have DOS 6 somewhere, and M$ / Micro Focus DOS Cobol too, and possibly a
copy of DOS 3.3.

However Centos (or Linux generally) is certainly a real hands-on
operating system offering lots of satisfaction absent from all M$
products. Just wish I had discover the joys of Centos years ago. It
really is a computer person's delight. So boring because it just works
well and reliably :-)


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