Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-23 Thread Giles Coochey



On 23/06/2020 17:37, Frank Cox wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 14:31:10 +0200
Rudi Ahlers wrote:


I have an accountant, but still need todo my part from the business'
end. They don't invoice my clients. Quickbooks works very well, but
keeps me stuck in Windows land.

Depending on the complexity of your needs, you might not need dedicated 
accounting software.

I own and operate a small business (movie theatre).  I do all of my accounting 
on a spreadsheet.  Today I use Libreoffice, when I opened my theatre I used 
Microsoft Multiplan.

I print out my revenue and expenses pages for my accountant at the end of the 
year and he's happy with that.  When I need to generate an actual invoice 
(fairly rare as my theatre is almost entirely a cash business) I make it up 
with Libreoffice as well.  I have an invoice template saved that I use for that 
purpose.


+1 to the above, can only re-iterate, if you need your accounts to be 
auditable, and can't get your head round accountancy software, then 
provide the information in any readable form to your accountant and let 
them deal with it.


If you don't need them to be auditable, or you are an accountant, then 
just learn how to use whatever accountancy software do it, and don't let 
an emotional belief in to what operating system you use take control 
over what choices you have in this regard.


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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-23 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 14:31:10 +0200
Rudi Ahlers wrote:

> I have an accountant, but still need todo my part from the business'
> end. They don't invoice my clients. Quickbooks works very well, but
> keeps me stuck in Windows land.

Depending on the complexity of your needs, you might not need dedicated 
accounting software.

I own and operate a small business (movie theatre).  I do all of my accounting 
on a spreadsheet.  Today I use Libreoffice, when I opened my theatre I used 
Microsoft Multiplan.

I print out my revenue and expenses pages for my accountant at the end of the 
year and he's happy with that.  When I need to generate an actual invoice 
(fairly rare as my theatre is almost entirely a cash business) I make it up 
with Libreoffice as well.  I have an invoice template saved that I use for that 
purpose.

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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-23 Thread Rudi Ahlers
I have an accountant, but still need todo my part from the business'
end. They don't invoice my clients. Quickbooks works very well, but
keeps me stuck in Windows land.

It's just as well saying I cannot drive a car cause I don't want to
learn how to overhaul the engine, or I cannot be a system admin cause
I don't want to learn how the electronics on the PC boards work.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:24 PM Giles Coochey  wrote:
>
>
> On 22/06/2020 13:57, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> > I have to say, GnuCash simply doesn't do it for me. As a tech, I don't
> > have time to figure out accounting systems, and I really don't want to
> > have this info on the internet in 3rd party's control.
> >
> >
> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Rudi Ahlers  wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
>  I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
>  and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
>  Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.
> 
>  Any recommendations?
> 
>  --
>  Kind Regards
>  Rudi Ahlers
>  Website: http://www.rudiahlers.co.za
> 
> 
> Don't take this the wrong way, but if you're looking for an accounting
> solution, but at the same time you don't want to learn how to use a
> perfectly adequate accounting solution, then perhaps all you need is an
> accountant, and not a piece of software.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-22 Thread Giles Coochey



On 22/06/2020 13:57, Rudi Ahlers wrote:

I have to say, GnuCash simply doesn't do it for me. As a tech, I don't
have time to figure out accounting systems, and I really don't want to
have this info on the internet in 3rd party's control.



On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Rudi Ahlers  wrote:


Hi,

I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.

Any recommendations?

--
Kind Regards
Rudi Ahlers
Website: http://www.rudiahlers.co.za


Don't take this the wrong way, but if you're looking for an accounting 
solution, but at the same time you don't want to learn how to use a 
perfectly adequate accounting solution, then perhaps all you need is an 
accountant, and not a piece of software.



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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-22 Thread Rudi Ahlers
I have to say, GnuCash simply doesn't do it for me. As a tech, I don't
have time to figure out accounting systems, and I really don't want to
have this info on the internet in 3rd party's control.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:09 PM  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Rudi Ahlers  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
> >> I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
> >> and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
> >> Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.
> >>
> >> Any recommendations?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kind Regards
> >> Rudi Ahlers
> >> Website: http://www.rudiahlers.co.za
> >>
> >>
> > In the past (more than 10 years ago...) I had to work with Sql Ledger and
> > in its forum/mailing list often Quickbooks was cited.
> > I enjoyed it because of being GPL, using perl and PostgreSQL as a
> > background database.
> > It seems a still developed piece of software. Here the home page:
> > https://www.sql-ledger.com/
>
> There also was ledgersmb which is/was a fork of sql-ledger. Both got the job
> done at the time but ledger smb had some enhancements that at the time Dieter
> refused to add.
>
> Keep in mind, I have not looked at either one in about 4 years and have
> no idea what the current status is. My business needs changed so I moved on.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-10 Thread me

On Wed, 10 Jun 2020, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:


On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Rudi Ahlers  wrote:


Hi,

I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.

Any recommendations?

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Rudi Ahlers
Website: http://www.rudiahlers.co.za



In the past (more than 10 years ago...) I had to work with Sql Ledger and
in its forum/mailing list often Quickbooks was cited.
I enjoyed it because of being GPL, using perl and PostgreSQL as a
background database.
It seems a still developed piece of software. Here the home page:
https://www.sql-ledger.com/


There also was ledgersmb which is/was a fork of sql-ledger. Both got the job
done at the time but ledger smb had some enhancements that at the time Dieter
refused to add.

Keep in mind, I have not looked at either one in about 4 years and have
no idea what the current status is. My business needs changed so I moved on.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Rudi Ahlers  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
> I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
> and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
> Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> --
> Kind Regards
> Rudi Ahlers
> Website: http://www.rudiahlers.co.za
>
>
In the past (more than 10 years ago...) I had to work with Sql Ledger and
in its forum/mailing list often Quickbooks was cited.
I enjoyed it because of being GPL, using perl and PostgreSQL as a
background database.
It seems a still developed piece of software. Here the home page:
https://www.sql-ledger.com/
I don't know if it is too much for your needs. It offers also support in
case of need.
One useful page to compare accounting software functionalities offered
could be this one too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software

HIH,
Gianluca
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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor
Another option is to go toi this site and type in what you're looking 
for? and then go through the results that shoiw up, there's even a way 
to get specific, where you can specify whether you want an app that runs 
on Windows MacOS or Linux!!



AlternativeTo - Find Alternatives To Any Program 





Just my two cents on the matter! (Get it?...Quickbooks, two cents?...LOL!)




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On 6/9/20 4:05 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:36:49AM -0800, Fred Erickson wrote:

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:26:46 -0700
"Hugh E Cruickshank"  wrote:


From: Rudi Ahlers Sent: June 9, 2020 10:22

I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation,
please. I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's
offline, and where the data remains my property. Having used
Quickbooks on Windows in the past, I am looking for something
similar.

GnuCash has been working fine for me for several years.

HTH

Regards, Hugh


+1 for GnuCash
Fred

Yeah, GNUCash is a good accounting tool. my wife uses it for our personal
fnances, investment accounts, etc.

however, it is a double-entry accounting system (like professional
accounts  use, whether electronic or on paper), and may require
you to commit some effort to learn the ins and outs thereof.

Fred
(Not the same Fred as above)


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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:36:49AM -0800, Fred Erickson wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:26:46 -0700
> "Hugh E Cruickshank"  wrote:
> 
> > From: Rudi Ahlers Sent: June 9, 2020 10:22
> > > 
> > > I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation,
> > > please. I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's
> > > offline, and where the data remains my property. Having used
> > > Quickbooks on Windows in the past, I am looking for something
> > > similar.  
> > 
> > GnuCash has been working fine for me for several years.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Regards, Hugh
> > 
> +1 for GnuCash
> Fred

Yeah, GNUCash is a good accounting tool. my wife uses it for our personal
fnances, investment accounts, etc.

however, it is a double-entry accounting system (like professional
accounts  use, whether electronic or on paper), and may require
you to commit some effort to learn the ins and outs thereof.

Fred
(Not the same Fred as above)

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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Fred Erickson
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:26:46 -0700
"Hugh E Cruickshank"  wrote:

> From: Rudi Ahlers Sent: June 9, 2020 10:22
> > 
> > I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation,
> > please. I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's
> > offline, and where the data remains my property. Having used
> > Quickbooks on Windows in the past, I am looking for something
> > similar.  
> 
> GnuCash has been working fine for me for several years.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Regards, Hugh
> 
+1 for GnuCash
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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Hugh E Cruickshank
From: Rudi Ahlers Sent: June 9, 2020 10:22
> 
> I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
> I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
> and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
> Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.

GnuCash has been working fine for me for several years.

HTH

Regards, Hugh

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Re: [CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Brian Reichert
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 07:21:40PM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
> I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
> and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
> Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.
> 
> Any recommendations?

I have not explored this yet, but intend to do so:

https://www.gnucash.org/

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[CentOS] Accounting package recommendations

2020-06-09 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi,

I am looking for an offline accounting package recommendation, please.
I enjoyed using Xero accounting, but need something that's offline,
and where the data remains my property. Having used Quickbooks on
Windows in the past, I am looking for something similar.

Any recommendations?

-- 
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Rudi Ahlers
Website: http://www.rudiahlers.co.za
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