Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic > Udo Siewert wrote: >> A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using >> Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. > All 3 DVD-s (2 x x86_64 + i386) are burned on K3B 0.12.17 on CentOS 5.6. > x86_64 is tested and works. i386 not yet tested but it passed K3B > verification. Here, latest k3b on 5.6 did not like my DVD-Rs for some reason... could not even start burning. I used the 'CD/DVD Creator' and it worked. Only difference I could think of is that the slowest in k3b was 1x, while it was 0.4x in 'CD/DVD Creator'... JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 16:06 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Just saw your other reply. Then just do not use DVD-RW, but plain DVD-R. > > I was going to try that, but seeing as how a Fedora 15 x86_64 ISO burnt > to the same rewritable DVD boots properly, I don't see how a DVD-R will > resolve the CentOS problem. > > I'll still try it. It's worth a shot. Here's a silly thought: try shoving a CD/DVD cleaner disk in, the kind they sell for CD players. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Friday, July 15, 2011 09:35:22 AM Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 05:57 +0200, Udo Siewert wrote: > > A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using > > Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. > > I used Brasero: failed to boot. Brasero and K3B both use growisofs and wodim on the backend. Burning DVD- is a different process from burning DVD+; substantially different at the physical media, and thus different bugs are exposed. Jorg Schilling's own cdrecord utilities may work more reliably for DVD- burning (he says they should work better for all burning, but I haven't tested that). YMMV. Jorg is not as gracious about the differences and about the issue as I am being here; you can read it all for yourself and decide for yourself what to do about that but using his cdrecord suite is guaranteed to make your system not 100% upstream EL compatible at least in terms of those utilities. I know a client of mine has had multiple problems with Brasero and certain brands of media, mostly DVD-, when I haven't had issues, but using DVD+ almost exclusively. I'm probably going to rip out wodim completely, and try out Jorg's mkisofs and cdrecord instead, and see if that fixes the problem. But I digress. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 16:06 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Just saw your other reply. Then just do not use DVD-RW, but plain DVD-R. I was going to try that, but seeing as how a Fedora 15 x86_64 ISO burnt to the same rewritable DVD boots properly, I don't see how a DVD-R will resolve the CentOS problem. I'll still try it. It's worth a shot. Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.32.26-175.fc12.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 12:15:29 up 12:04, 1 user, load average: 0.29, 0.16, 0.06 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 17:05 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote: > Did you check the integrity of the downloaded iso image > before burning it? The download is good. I made sure to do the checksum before burning the image. > Can you try to burn the iso on different machine > at a slow speed. See if it boot then? I already tried that: it won't boot. :( Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.32.26-175.fc12.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 12:12:23 up 12:01, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.10, 0.03 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > To: centos@centos.org > From: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot) > > On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 22:17 -0600, Devin Reade wrote: >> My successful burns (although not tried with CentOS 6 yet) have been >> using growisofs directly: >> >> growisofs -speed=1 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso > > Tried this: failed to boot. Hi Ranbir. Did you check the integrity of the downloaded iso image before burning it? Can you try to burn the iso on different machine at a slow speed. See if it boot then? Keith - Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 05:57 +0200, Udo Siewert wrote: >>> A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using >>> Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. >> I used Brasero: failed to boot. >> >> Ranbir >> > Then it is not a software but most likely a hardware problem. > Just saw your other reply. Then just do not use DVD-RW, but plain DVD-R. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 05:57 +0200, Udo Siewert wrote: >> A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using >> Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. > > I used Brasero: failed to boot. > > Ranbir > Then it is not a software but most likely a hardware problem. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 22:17 -0600, Devin Reade wrote: > My successful burns (although not tried with CentOS 6 yet) have been > using growisofs directly: > > growisofs -speed=1 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso Tried this: failed to boot. Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.32.26-175.fc12.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 09:35:27 up 9:24, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.11, 0.09 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 05:57 +0200, Udo Siewert wrote: > A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using > Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. I used Brasero: failed to boot. Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.32.26-175.fc12.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 09:34:50 up 9:23, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.13, 0.09 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:58:28 +0200 Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Udo Siewert wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:58:55 +0200 > > Udo Siewert wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:25:11 +0200 > >> Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> > >> > All 3 DVD-s (2 x x86_64 + i386) are burned on K3B 0.12.17 on > >> > CentOS > >>> 5.6. > >>> > >>> x86_64 is tested and works. i386 not yet tested but it passed K3B > >>> verification. > >> Ok. But using K3B-2.0.2 didn't work here to produce a bootable > >> CentOS ISO image. > > > > Except I would like to thank the devs for delivering CentOS-6.0. > > Works fine so far as a workstation. > > And will be even better Workstation when third party repos catch up > with other useful packages. Already done ;-) epel elrepo -> fglrx (opengl for Kwin) rpmforge-> kaffeine, vlc and the other nice stuff. Of course setting protect=1 via yum priorities plug-in for base and updates repositories. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
Udo Siewert wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:58:55 +0200 > Udo Siewert wrote: > >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:25:11 +0200 >> Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> > All 3 DVD-s (2 x x86_64 + i386) are burned on K3B 0.12.17 on CentOS >>> 5.6. >>> >>> x86_64 is tested and works. i386 not yet tested but it passed K3B >>> verification. >> Ok. But using K3B-2.0.2 didn't work here to produce a bootable CentOS >> ISO image. > > Except I would like to thank the devs for delivering CentOS-6.0. Works > fine so far as a workstation. And will be even better Workstation when third party repos catch up with other useful packages. P.S. Good to know about ver 2.0.2, I will keep it in mind. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:58:55 +0200 Udo Siewert wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:25:11 +0200 > Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > > All 3 DVD-s (2 x x86_64 + i386) are burned on K3B 0.12.17 on CentOS > > 5.6. > > > > x86_64 is tested and works. i386 not yet tested but it passed K3B > > verification. > > Ok. But using K3B-2.0.2 didn't work here to produce a bootable CentOS > ISO image. Except I would like to thank the devs for delivering CentOS-6.0. Works fine so far as a workstation. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:25:11 +0200 Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > All 3 DVD-s (2 x x86_64 + i386) are burned on K3B 0.12.17 on CentOS > 5.6. > > x86_64 is tested and works. i386 not yet tested but it passed K3B > verification. Ok. But using K3B-2.0.2 didn't work here to produce a bootable CentOS ISO image. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
Udo Siewert wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:30:32 -0400 > Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > > >> I used K3B in Fedora 15 to burn the DVD image. I changed the speed to >> 1x, but K3B reported the burn speed as 2.4x - I guess it couldn't go >> any lower. > > A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using > Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. > All 3 DVD-s (2 x x86_64 + i386) are burned on K3B 0.12.17 on CentOS 5.6. x86_64 is tested and works. i386 not yet tested but it passed K3B verification. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
Udo Siewert wrote: > A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using > Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. My successful burns (although not tried with CentOS 6 yet) have been using growisofs directly: growisofs -speed=1 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso Devin -- If you have any trouble sounding condescending, consult a UNIX user. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:30:32 -0400 Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > I used K3B in Fedora 15 to burn the DVD image. I changed the speed to > 1x, but K3B reported the burn speed as 2.4x - I guess it couldn't go > any lower. A shot in the dark: my DVD image burned by K3B won't also boot. Using Brasero and all was fine. Not reproducable, but worth the attempt. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 09:26 -0600, Devin Reade wrote: > I have had much better luck with DVD data portability if I always > burn DVDs at 1x (or as close to it as the DVD firmware will allow), > particularly when it comes to burning on one system and reading on > another. I used K3B in Fedora 15 to burn the DVD image. I changed the speed to 1x, but K3B reported the burn speed as 2.4x - I guess it couldn't go any lower. The newly burnt image didn't boot either. The error was the same. So sad. :( Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.32.26-175.fc12.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 23:28:29 up 1 day, 27 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs
On 07/14/11 8:26 AM, Devin Reade wrote: > I have had much better luck with DVD data portability if I always > burn DVDs at 1x (or as close to it as the DVD firmware will allow), > particularly when it comes to burning on one system and reading on > another. with newer hardware, decent quality blank media, and current generation '16X' and '20X' burners, I find burning DVDs at 8X, which is the max CLV speed, gives me a very high level of player compatibility. Better yet, it doesn't take hardly any longer than the 'full speed' burn. faster than 8X, the drives use CAV mode where the burn speed goes up on the outer part of the disk, which makes the last 20 or 25% of a full disk much more prone to errors. btw, I've found current generation Samsung fullsized SATA & ATAPI(IDE) burners to be very reliable and highly compatible with a wide range of playback gear. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Devin Reade wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Devin Reade > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot) > > --On Thursday, July 14, 2011 09:53:07 AM -0500 Trey Dockendorf > wrote: > >> I had an smililar issue using the CentOS 6 DVD with a DVD-RW. The same >> install disk worked perfectly on another system. I ended up having to use >> the Netinstall CD to do the install. > > This is often a side effect of what I have been told is a poor specification > in the DVD industry regarding writing at > 1x speed, in that certain > requirements were set for that speed but not for higher speeds. > > I have had much better luck with DVD data portability if I always > burn DVDs at 1x (or as close to it as the DVD firmware will allow), > particularly when it comes to burning on one system and reading on > another. Hello Devin. I heard that about audio CD's as well. Some that are burnt on a PC at home will not play properly on a car CD player. The answer was to burn at a lower speed as possible. I try to burn my data CD's and DVD iso's at a low speed as possible. Kind Regards, Keith Roberts > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- - Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Burning DVDs (was: CentOS 6 x86_64 DVD doesn't boot)
--On Thursday, July 14, 2011 09:53:07 AM -0500 Trey Dockendorf wrote: > I had an smililar issue using the CentOS 6 DVD with a DVD-RW. The same > install disk worked perfectly on another system. I ended up having to use > the Netinstall CD to do the install. This is often a side effect of what I have been told is a poor specification in the DVD industry regarding writing at > 1x speed, in that certain requirements were set for that speed but not for higher speeds. I have had much better luck with DVD data portability if I always burn DVDs at 1x (or as close to it as the DVD firmware will allow), particularly when it comes to burning on one system and reading on another. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
