Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-09 Thread Leon Fauster
> Am 03.03.2017 um 13:19 schrieb James Hogarth :
> 
> On 3 March 2017 at 11:47, James Hogarth  wrote:
>> On 3 March 2017 at 11:34, John Hodrien  wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Tony Mountifield wrote:
>>> 
 You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
 seem rather irresponsible...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mirroring EPEL makes sense well before this point, as they don't keep old
>>> versions of packages online either AFAIK.
>>> 
>>> jh
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Indeed they aren't kept ... and since there hasn't been an EOL of EPEL
>> before I honestly have no idea ... I've asked on the epel-devel
>> mailing list as to whether it'll move to archive like old fedora
>> releases do.
> 
> My mistake - I forgot there was an EPEL4 in the mists of time .. so
> the last version of the repo is likely to end up here:
> 
> http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/


JFI: 

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YTEBPQPLP7NIVR3C533EBHEAERPH26P3/

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-03 Thread Zdenek Sedlak
On 2017-03-03 14:14, Tony Mountifield wrote:
> In article 
> ,
> James Hogarth  wrote:
>> On 3 March 2017 at 11:47, James Hogarth  wrote:
>>> On 3 March 2017 at 11:34, John Hodrien  wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Tony Mountifield wrote:

> You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
> seem rather irresponsible...
 Mirroring EPEL makes sense well before this point, as they don't keep old
 versions of packages online either AFAIK.

 jh
>>> Indeed they aren't kept ... and since there hasn't been an EOL of EPEL
>>> before I honestly have no idea ... I've asked on the epel-devel
>>> mailing list as to whether it'll move to archive like old fedora
>>> releases do.
>> My mistake - I forgot there was an EPEL4 in the mists of time .. so
>> the last version of the repo is likely to end up here:
>>
>> http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/
> Cool, thanks!
>
> Tony
I am mirroring the EPEL from official mirrors and the EPEL4 content is
stills there:
1.9Gpub/mirrors/epel/4
7.3Gpub/mirrors/epel/5
15G pub/mirrors/epel/6
16G pub/mirrors/epel/7

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-03 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article ,
James Hogarth  wrote:
> On 3 March 2017 at 11:47, James Hogarth  wrote:
> > On 3 March 2017 at 11:34, John Hodrien  wrote:
> >> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Tony Mountifield wrote:
> >>
> >>> You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
> >>> seem rather irresponsible...
> >>
> >> Mirroring EPEL makes sense well before this point, as they don't keep old
> >> versions of packages online either AFAIK.
> >>
> >> jh
> >
> > Indeed they aren't kept ... and since there hasn't been an EOL of EPEL
> > before I honestly have no idea ... I've asked on the epel-devel
> > mailing list as to whether it'll move to archive like old fedora
> > releases do.
> 
> My mistake - I forgot there was an EPEL4 in the mists of time .. so
> the last version of the repo is likely to end up here:
> 
> http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/

Cool, thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-03 Thread James Hogarth
On 3 March 2017 at 11:47, James Hogarth  wrote:
> On 3 March 2017 at 11:34, John Hodrien  wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Tony Mountifield wrote:
>>
>>> You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
>>> seem rather irresponsible...
>>
>>
>> Mirroring EPEL makes sense well before this point, as they don't keep old
>> versions of packages online either AFAIK.
>>
>> jh
>>
>>
>
> Indeed they aren't kept ... and since there hasn't been an EOL of EPEL
> before I honestly have no idea ... I've asked on the epel-devel
> mailing list as to whether it'll move to archive like old fedora
> releases do.

My mistake - I forgot there was an EPEL4 in the mists of time .. so
the last version of the repo is likely to end up here:

http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-03 Thread James Hogarth
On 3 March 2017 at 11:34, John Hodrien  wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Tony Mountifield wrote:
>
>> You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
>> seem rather irresponsible...
>
>
> Mirroring EPEL makes sense well before this point, as they don't keep old
> versions of packages online either AFAIK.
>
> jh
>
>

Indeed they aren't kept ... and since there hasn't been an EOL of EPEL
before I honestly have no idea ... I've asked on the epel-devel
mailing list as to whether it'll move to archive like old fedora
releases do.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-03 Thread John Hodrien

On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Tony Mountifield wrote:


You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
seem rather irresponsible...


Mirroring EPEL makes sense well before this point, as they don't keep old
versions of packages online either AFAIK.

jh
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-03 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article ,
James Hogarth  wrote:
> 
> This is especially important if you use anything from EPEL as EPEL5 will be
> removed when RHEL goes EOL.

You mean just thrown away, or archived somewhere? Just thrown away would
seem rather irresponsible...

Cheers
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-02 Thread Tom Munro Glass



On 03/03/17 11:59, Johnny Hughes wrote:


Thanks for the advice. I'll try and set up a mirror asap, but I'd still
like to know when the mirrors will be removed if anyone has that
information.


Before we remove it from mirror, it will all be moved here:

 http://vault.centos.org/5.11/

It will be there forever .. just like all the CentOS-3 and CentOS-4
trees are as well.


Thanks Johnny - that's good to know.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/02/2017 12:42 PM, Tom Munro Glass wrote:
> On 02/03/17 19:50, James Hogarth wrote:
>> On 2 Mar 2017 03:49, "John R Pierce"  wrote:
>>
>> On 3/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Munro Glass wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you say exactly when in early April the tree will be moved? I have a
>>> number of installations that need to continue running CentOS 5 so I'd
>>> like
>>> to do a final update before the tree moves.
>>>
>>
>> may I suggest building your own mirror well before then, update it with
>> rsync or lftp weekly (or even daily), from http://mirrors.xmission.com/ce
>> ntos/5  (pick your favorite mirror to make the mirror from), and replace
>> your CentOS-xxx.repo files with ones that point to your private repo
>>
>> I use a command like this to mirror everything and incrementally update,
>> you could change the last centos to centos/5  if you want to just
>> fetch and
>> update that...
>>
>>lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net && lcd /mirrors && mirror
>>--continue --verbose=1 -x SRPMS centos'
>>
>> (yes, you do need to find a ftp mirror, i had issues mirroring from an
>> http
>> server).
>>
>>
>> This is especially important if you use anything from EPEL as EPEL5
>> will be
>> removed when RHEL goes EOL.
> 
> Thanks for the advice. I'll try and set up a mirror asap, but I'd still
> like to know when the mirrors will be removed if anyone has that
> information.

Before we remove it from mirror, it will all be moved here:

 http://vault.centos.org/5.11/

It will be there forever .. just like all the CentOS-3 and CentOS-4
trees are as well.




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-02 Thread Tom Munro Glass

On 02/03/17 19:50, James Hogarth wrote:

On 2 Mar 2017 03:49, "John R Pierce"  wrote:

On 3/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Munro Glass wrote:


Can you say exactly when in early April the tree will be moved? I have a
number of installations that need to continue running CentOS 5 so I'd like
to do a final update before the tree moves.



may I suggest building your own mirror well before then, update it with
rsync or lftp weekly (or even daily), from http://mirrors.xmission.com/ce
ntos/5  (pick your favorite mirror to make the mirror from), and replace
your CentOS-xxx.repo files with ones that point to your private repo

I use a command like this to mirror everything and incrementally update,
you could change the last centos to centos/5  if you want to just fetch and
update that...

   lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net && lcd /mirrors && mirror
   --continue --verbose=1 -x SRPMS centos'

(yes, you do need to find a ftp mirror, i had issues mirroring from an http
server).


This is especially important if you use anything from EPEL as EPEL5 will be
removed when RHEL goes EOL.


Thanks for the advice. I'll try and set up a mirror asap, but I'd still 
like to know when the mirrors will be removed if anyone has that 
information.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread James Hogarth
On 2 Mar 2017 03:49, "John R Pierce"  wrote:

On 3/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Munro Glass wrote:

>
> Can you say exactly when in early April the tree will be moved? I have a
> number of installations that need to continue running CentOS 5 so I'd like
> to do a final update before the tree moves.
>

may I suggest building your own mirror well before then, update it with
rsync or lftp weekly (or even daily), from http://mirrors.xmission.com/ce
ntos/5  (pick your favorite mirror to make the mirror from), and replace
your CentOS-xxx.repo files with ones that point to your private repo

I use a command like this to mirror everything and incrementally update,
you could change the last centos to centos/5  if you want to just fetch and
update that...

   lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net && lcd /mirrors && mirror
   --continue --verbose=1 -x SRPMS centos'

(yes, you do need to find a ftp mirror, i had issues mirroring from an http
server).


This is especially important if you use anything from EPEL as EPEL5 will be
removed when RHEL goes EOL.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread John R Pierce

On 3/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Munro Glass wrote:


Can you say exactly when in early April the tree will be moved? I have 
a number of installations that need to continue running CentOS 5 so 
I'd like to do a final update before the tree moves. 


may I suggest building your own mirror well before then, update it with 
rsync or lftp weekly (or even daily), from 
http://mirrors.xmission.com/centos/5  (pick your favorite mirror to make 
the mirror from), and replace your CentOS-xxx.repo files with ones that 
point to your private repo


I use a command like this to mirror everything and incrementally update, 
you could change the last centos to centos/5  if you want to just fetch 
and update that...


   lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net && lcd /mirrors && mirror
   --continue --verbose=1 -x SRPMS centos'

(yes, you do need to find a ftp mirror, i had issues mirroring from an 
http server).





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Tom Munro Glass

On 02/03/17 00:28, Johnny Hughes wrote:

Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
of March 31, 2017.

This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.

Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).


Can you say exactly when in early April the tree will be moved? I have a 
number of installations that need to continue running CentOS 5 so I'd 
like to do a final update before the tree moves.



Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Daniel J Pacek
On 03/01/2017 09:52 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 03/01/2017 05:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
>> of March 31, 2017.
>>
>> This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
>> Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.
> This is for their main RHEL-5 Tree.
>
>> Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
>> vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).
>>
> For CentOS-5 users that can not shift from EL5 workloads, Red Hat does
> offer EUS (Extended Update Support) past the 10 year point for RHEL-5.
> You can see this link for more info on EL5 EUS support:
>
>
> https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux


Actually it's called ELS - Extended Lifecycle support
https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata

EUS - Extended Update Support is an add-on for RHEL customers that need
patches and updates
for Minor releases of RHEL for up to 24 months from GA.


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> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Leon Fauster
> Am 01.03.2017 um 17:13 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
> 
> On 03/01/2017 09:21 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
>> Am 01.03.2017 um 12:28 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
>>> 
>>> Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
>>> of March 31, 2017.
>>> 
>>> This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
>>> Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.
>>> 
>>> Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
>>> vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).
>> 
>> Will the centos-release package be updated to point to the vault tree?
> 
> I am not sure we want to enable that by default.  We want people to
> understand that CentOS-5 is no longer active.
> 
> There is a CentOS-Vault.repo file that one can use, or people can change
> it manually.

Ah okay, that helps. 

> If it happens automatically, well then people will just leave it in place.

Sure, it shouldn't. More than that - if provided it should provide actively 
that EOL information (e.g. /etc/issue /etc/motd et cetera).

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, March 1, 2017 9:21 am, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 01.03.2017 um 12:28 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
>> Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
of March 31, 2017.
>> This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.
>> Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their
EOL).
>
> Will the centos-release package be updated to point to the vault tree?

It is not my place to offer opinion, but I would rather have it fail, thus
prompting whoever tries to still use CentOS 5 to look deeper and find out
about end of life, than quietly going to vault as if it still us usable
secure supported system.

Just my $0.02.

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/01/2017 09:21 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 01.03.2017 um 12:28 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
>>
>> Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
>> of March 31, 2017.
>>
>> This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
>> Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.
>>
>> Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
>> vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).
> 
> Will the centos-release package be updated to point to the vault tree?

I am not sure we want to enable that by default.  We want people to
understand that CentOS-5 is no longer active.

There is a CentOS-Vault.repo file that one can use, or people can change
it manually.

If it happens automatically, well then people will just leave it in place.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 01.03.2017 um 12:28 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
> 
> Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
> of March 31, 2017.
> 
> This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
> Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.
> 
> Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
> vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).

Will the centos-release package be updated to point to the vault tree?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/01/2017 05:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
> of March 31, 2017.
> 
> This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
> Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.

This is for their main RHEL-5 Tree.

> 
> Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
> vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).
> 

For CentOS-5 users that can not shift from EL5 workloads, Red Hat does
offer EUS (Extended Update Support) past the 10 year point for RHEL-5.
You can see this link for more info on EL5 EUS support:


https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux

Thanks,
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[CentOS] CentOS-5 End of Life

2017-03-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
Just a message to remind everyone that CentOS-5 has an End of Life date
of March 31, 2017.

This means that there will be no new security updates released by Red
Hat for RHEL-5 after that date.

Sometime in early April, the current 5.11 tree will be moved onto
vault.centos.org (like CentOS-3 and CentOS-4 have been since their EOL).

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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