Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 VMI support

2008-07-11 Thread David G. Mackay

On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 17:31 -0700, nate wrote:
 No it requires changes to the kernel itself, changes which I don't think Red
 Hat will introduce in a minor release as their current VM stuff is Xen based
 which has it's own paravirtualization support in the existing kernel(pre
 VMI). I read that Red Hat is moving towards KVM though, I don't have any
 knowledge on that project, maybe it uses VMI as well.

There's a big splash on Redhat's home page.  Take a look at
http://www.ovirt.org.  That uses libvirt.

Dave


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[CentOS] CentOS 5.2 VMI support

2008-07-10 Thread Ruslan Sivak
I'm using VMWare Server 2 RC1 to on top of CentOS 5.2 x86_64 running a 
CentOS 5.2 i386 guest.  I have enabled VMI in VMware, so I guess it 
won't let me install if VMI wasn't available in the kernel?  How do I 
know whether VMI is supported/enabled and what performance benefits can 
I expect from it?  I'm still not getting full hard drive speeds (only 
getting about 1/3 when using hdparm -t ). 


Russ
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 VMI support

2008-07-10 Thread nate
Ruslan Sivak wrote:
 I'm using VMWare Server 2 RC1 to on top of CentOS 5.2 x86_64 running a
 CentOS 5.2 i386 guest.  I have enabled VMI in VMware, so I guess it
 won't let me install if VMI wasn't available in the kernel?  How do I
 know whether VMI is supported/enabled and what performance benefits can
 I expect from it?  I'm still not getting full hard drive speeds (only
 getting about 1/3 when using hdparm -t ).

I don't believe it is supported in CentOS 5.x.  I am using Fedora Core
8 for VMI support.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]# dmesg  | grep -i vmi
VMI: Found VMware, Inc. Hypervisor OPROM, API version 3.0, ROM version 1.0
vmi: registering clock event vmi-timer. mult=7809995 shift=22
Booting paravirtualized kernel on vmi
vmi: registering clock source khz=1862048
Time: vmi-timer clocksource has been installed.

I suspect it will be in RHEL/CentOS 6.x

nate

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 VMI support

2008-07-10 Thread Ruslan Sivak

nate wrote:

Ruslan Sivak wrote:
  

I'm using VMWare Server 2 RC1 to on top of CentOS 5.2 x86_64 running a
CentOS 5.2 i386 guest.  I have enabled VMI in VMware, so I guess it
won't let me install if VMI wasn't available in the kernel?  How do I
know whether VMI is supported/enabled and what performance benefits can
I expect from it?  I'm still not getting full hard drive speeds (only
getting about 1/3 when using hdparm -t ).



I don't believe it is supported in CentOS 5.x.  I am using Fedora Core
8 for VMI support.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]# dmesg  | grep -i vmi
VMI: Found VMware, Inc. Hypervisor OPROM, API version 3.0, ROM version 1.0
vmi: registering clock event vmi-timer. mult=7809995 shift=22
Booting paravirtualized kernel on vmi
vmi: registering clock source khz=1862048
Time: vmi-timer clocksource has been installed.

I suspect it will be in RHEL/CentOS 6.x

nate

_
Does it just require a kernel recompile?  Is there maybe one available 
somewhere? 


Would
it give me improved disk access speed? 


Russ
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 VMI support

2008-07-10 Thread nate
Ruslan Sivak wrote:

 Does it just require a kernel recompile?  Is there maybe one available
 somewhere?

No it requires changes to the kernel itself, changes which I don't think Red
Hat will introduce in a minor release as their current VM stuff is Xen based
which has it's own paravirtualization support in the existing kernel(pre
VMI). I read that Red Hat is moving towards KVM though, I don't have any
knowledge on that project, maybe it uses VMI as well.

 Would
 it give me improved disk access speed?

I doubt it. I'm planning on using it mainly so I can run a couple of NTP
servers in VMs. Even though it's still not officially supported my experience
shows that NTP *will never sync* in VMWare with normal virtualization. But
with VMI/paravirtualization I've had a ntp daemon synced for weeks so far. I
don't plan to use VMI for anything other then a couple bare bones VMs to run
NTP. Then the rest of the VMs will run ntpdate every minute against them,
and the non VMs will run ntp daemons and sync with them. The internal vmware
time sync(at least in ESX) doesn't work too well in my experience so I just
turn it off and use ntpdate instead.

Disk access speed is limited to the speed of the I/O subsystem. VMware has
recently demonstrated a ESX system being able to sustain 100,000 I/Os per
second (maxing out ~500 15k RPM disks), and that wasn't using
paravirtualization. If you can get 100k IOPS with normal virtualization...

nate

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