Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-28 Thread John Doe
 From: Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com

  On  07/27/2010 11:18 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
  I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only  have a CD drive (no DVD).
  So I downloaded all the ISO's and I  thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
  this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't  remember what CPU it's got right off
  hand, not that it should  matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
  exception. OK, no problem  - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
  with that machine I  decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
  384 MB or RAM. Same  thing happened.
  So here's my question: has anybody  successfully installed CentOS 5.5
  on a 32-bit machine (i386) using  individual CD's as their installation
   media?
 By  the way - since it sounds like you have the experience - how easy
 is it to  mirror CentOS repositories locally? How much space do I  need,
 roughly?

I mirror it manualy (os from the DVDs and update with a simple rsync), although 
there is a createrepo package for mirroring repos.
My following repo (i386+x86_64) takes 12GB:
5/os/i386/CentOS
5/os/i386/repodata
5/os/i386/images
5/os/i386/images/pxeboot
5/os/i386/images/xen
5/updates/i386
5/updates/i386/RPMS
5/updates/i386/repodata
5/os/x86_64/CentOS
5/os/x86_64/repodata
5/os/x86_64/images
5/os/x86_64/images/pxeboot
5/os/x86_64/images/xen
5/updates/x86_64
5/updates/x86_64/RPMS
5/updates/x86_64/repodata

About your main issue; did you try older releases or different distros to test?
Maybe try these kernel options (noapic, acpi=off, etc...)

JD


  
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-28 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:39:46AM -0700, John Doe wrote:
  From: Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com
  By  the way - since it sounds like you have the experience - how easy
  is it to  mirror CentOS repositories locally? How much space do I  need,
  roughly?

 I mirror it manualy (os from the DVDs and update with a simple rsync), 
 although 
 there is a createrepo package for mirroring repos.

You don't need a createrepo or anything else like; just a simple rsync.

I also copy the DVD and updates.

For i386:
  % du -hs /RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5
  3.9G/RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5

  % du -hs /RedHat/updates/centos5.5/i386
  1.7G/RedHat/updates/centos5.5/i386

For x86_64:
  % du -hs /RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5_x86_64
  4.4G/RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5_x86_64

  % du -hs /RedHat/updates/centos5.5/x86_64
  1.9G/RedHat/updates/centos5.5/x86_64

The rsync script is pretty simple; I run it from cron regularly.

  #!/bin/sh
  cd /RedHat/updates/centos5.5 || exit

  rsync --delete -rlptDzHq rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/updates/i386 .
  rsync --delete -rlptDzHq rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/updates/x86_64 
.

Then I can set up my yum.repos.d similar to this:

  [c5-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Media
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1

  [update-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates local
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/updates/centos$releasever/$basearch/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1

And, of course, disable the default repositories.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Epstein
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:39:46AM -0700, John Doe wrote:
  From: Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com
  By  the way - since it sounds like you have the experience - how easy
  is it to  mirror CentOS repositories locally? How much space do I  need,
  roughly?

 I mirror it manualy (os from the DVDs and update with a simple rsync), 
 although
 there is a createrepo package for mirroring repos.

 You don't need a createrepo or anything else like; just a simple rsync.

 I also copy the DVD and updates.

 For i386:
  % du -hs /RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5
  3.9G    /RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5

  % du -hs /RedHat/updates/centos5.5/i386
  1.7G    /RedHat/updates/centos5.5/i386

 For x86_64:
  % du -hs /RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5_x86_64
  4.4G    /RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5.5_x86_64

  % du -hs /RedHat/updates/centos5.5/x86_64
  1.9G    /RedHat/updates/centos5.5/x86_64

 The rsync script is pretty simple; I run it from cron regularly.

  #!/bin/sh
  cd /RedHat/updates/centos5.5 || exit

  rsync --delete -rlptDzHq rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/updates/i386 .
  rsync --delete -rlptDzHq 
 rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/updates/x86_64 .

 Then I can set up my yum.repos.d similar to this:

  [c5-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Media
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1

  [update-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates local
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/updates/centos$releasever/$basearch/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1

 And, of course, disable the default repositories.

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Thanks, Stephen, looks like an excellent set of instructions. I may
well try that.

Why should I disable the default repositories, though?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-28 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:52:55AM -0400, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote:
  [c5-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Media
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1
 
  [update-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates local
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/updates/centos$releasever/$basearch/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1
 
  And, of course, disable the default repositories.

 Why should I disable the default repositories, though?

If you don't then you'll have the default internet based repositories _and_
your local mirror both providing packages at the same time, and you'll gain
no benefit for having the local mirror.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Epstein
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:52:55AM -0400, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote:
  [c5-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Media
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/DVD/CentOS-5/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1
 
  [update-local]
  name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates local
  baseurl=file:///RedHat/updates/centos$releasever/$basearch/
  gpgcheck=1
  gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
  protect=1
  priority=1
  enabled=1
 
  And, of course, disable the default repositories.

 Why should I disable the default repositories, though?

 If you don't then you'll have the default internet based repositories _and_
 your local mirror both providing packages at the same time, and you'll gain
 no benefit for having the local mirror.

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Oh, right, sure. Sorry, I wasn't thinking.

I thought you were telling me not to use the content of those
repositories - and I couldn't figure out why.

Thanks again.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Benjamin Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote:
 On 07/27/2010 11:18 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD).
 So I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
 this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off
 hand, not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
 exception. OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
 with that machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
 384 MB or RAM. Same thing happened.

 So here's my question: has anybody successfully installed CentOS 5.5
 on a 32-bit machine (i386) using individual CD's as their installation
 media?


 The closest I have is a P3 with 1 GByte of RAM over HTTP using the 5.4
 netinstall CD that I installed several months ago (I keep a local mirror
 of the CentOS tree). That worked fine for me. My first thought on a
 machine that old would be either flaky memory or or a flaky CD drive. I
 would run memtest86+ on them and then try a network install. You can
 mount the DVD ISO on loopback on a webserver for an install source.

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Benjamin,

I just used the netinstall to load CentOS 5.5 from a mounted ISO of
the DVD and on one of the machines in question it worked like a charm.
Thanks once again for an excellent suggestion.

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[CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello listmates,

I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD).
So I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off
hand, not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
exception. OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
with that machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
384 MB or RAM. Same thing happened.

So here's my question: has anybody successfully installed CentOS 5.5
on a 32-bit machine (i386) using individual CD's as their installation
media?

Thanks.

Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread m . roth
Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD).
 So I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
 this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off
 hand, not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
 exception. OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
 with that machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
 384 MB or RAM. Same thing happened.

 So here's my question: has anybody successfully installed CentOS 5.5
 on a 32-bit machine (i386) using individual CD's as their installation
 media?

How much memory on the system? You *might* want to check the BIOS for some
weird setting - like the ones I had for OS2 installs

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD).
 So I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
 this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off
 hand, not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
 exception. OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
 with that machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
 384 MB or RAM. Same thing happened.

 So here's my question: has anybody successfully installed CentOS 5.5
 on a 32-bit machine (i386) using individual CD's as their installation
 media?

 How much memory on the system? You *might* want to check the BIOS for some
 weird setting - like the ones I had for OS2 installs

         mark


Mark,

Thanks for replying. Like I said, there have so far been two systems,
one with 384 MB RAM and one with 1.25 GB of RAM. Both get what appears
to be the same (or similar) exception.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 07/27/2010 11:18 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD).
 So I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
 this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off
 hand, not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
 exception. OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
 with that machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
 384 MB or RAM. Same thing happened.

 So here's my question: has anybody successfully installed CentOS 5.5
 on a 32-bit machine (i386) using individual CD's as their installation
 media?


The closest I have is a P3 with 1 GByte of RAM over HTTP using the 5.4 
netinstall CD that I installed several months ago (I keep a local mirror 
of the CentOS tree). That worked fine for me. My first thought on a 
machine that old would be either flaky memory or or a flaky CD drive. I 
would run memtest86+ on them and then try a network install. You can 
mount the DVD ISO on loopback on a webserver for an install source.

-- 
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Benjamin Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote:
 On 07/27/2010 11:18 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD).
 So I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on
 this 1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off
 hand, not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal
 exception. OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong
 with that machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with
 384 MB or RAM. Same thing happened.

 So here's my question: has anybody successfully installed CentOS 5.5
 on a 32-bit machine (i386) using individual CD's as their installation
 media?


 The closest I have is a P3 with 1 GByte of RAM over HTTP using the 5.4
 netinstall CD that I installed several months ago (I keep a local mirror
 of the CentOS tree). That worked fine for me. My first thought on a
 machine that old would be either flaky memory or or a flaky CD drive. I
 would run memtest86+ on them and then try a network install. You can
 mount the DVD ISO on loopback on a webserver for an install source.

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Benjamin,

Thank you, those are excellent suggestions. I will try that, most likely.

By the way - since it sounds like you have the experience - how easy
is it to mirror CentOS repositories locally? How much space do I need,
roughly?

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 07/27/2010 11:57 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Benjamin Franzjfr...@freerun.com  wrote:

 The closest I have is a P3 with 1 GByte of RAM over HTTP using the 5.4
 netinstall CD that I installed several months ago (I keep a local mirror
 of the CentOS tree). That worked fine for me. My first thought on a
 machine that old would be either flaky memory or or a flaky CD drive. I
 would run memtest86+ on them and then try a network install. You can
 mount the DVD ISO on loopback on a webserver for an install source.
  
 Benjamin,

 Thank you, those are excellent suggestions. I will try that, most likely.

 By the way - since it sounds like you have the experience - how easy
 is it to mirror CentOS repositories locally? How much space do I need,
 roughly?


I exclude the testing, build, apt, ia64, s390, s390x, and alpha 
sub-trees. The 5.5 tree (minus those) takes about 36 Gbytes. During an 
update cycle with a new release you can expect about double that between 
the old and new trees.

It is pretty easy - I just run a nightly rsync against a good public mirror.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5/i386/32-bit CD installation hickups

2010-07-27 Thread m . roth
Benjamin Franz wrote:
 On 07/27/2010 11:18 AM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I've got a few older 32-bit PC's that only have a CD drive (no DVD). So
I downloaded all the ISO's and I thought I'd install CentOS 5.5 on this
1.25 GB P-3 (I think, don't remember what CPU it's got right off hand,
not that it should matter). So I tried it there, got a fatal exception.
OK, no problem - thinking that maybe  something was wrong with that
machine I decided to try it on a different one, a P-3 with 384 MB or
RAM. Same thing happened.
snip
 of the CentOS tree). That worked fine for me. My first thought on a
machine that old would be either flaky memory or or a flaky CD drive. I
snip
Good thought. I had a *lot* of trouble with one older 32-bit system a few
months ago - I could *not* get it to install from the DVD. I finally used
my USB key, and that worked. Of course, for any other purposes, the drive
worked fine.

mark



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