Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-16 Thread Joakim Ziegler

On 15/10/14, 1:58, Greg Lindahl wrote:

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:56:23AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:



The advise to do a full upgrade is the best (most secure) option ..
however, theoretically, the new kernel should boot and not cause issues
based on the other packages.



OP said he had an InfiniBand card. For a long time it was the case
that every kernel point release needed the corresponding IB userspace
libraries.



It's also worth noting that running with an unusual set of packages
means you're running something that is not well-tested. Most
enterprise users like to run with the herd, in the middle of the herd.
Mooo. That basically means yum -y update, nothing different.
Yum let me do it and this is wise are two different things!


I can confirm that a full upgrade to 6.5 fixed the boot problem. I do think it's 
maybe a bit too easy to make this mistake, though.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-16 Thread Joakim Ziegler

On 15/10/14, 8:22, Lamar Owen wrote:

First question:  can you boot with the old kernel still (by default CentOS 6
leaves a few old kernels around; I want to say the default is 3, but it might be
5, I don't recall, and I don't have a straight default C6 install to check
against right at the moment)?



Next question: did you also update the updated kernel-firmware package for the
updated kernel?



The first thing I would do is downgrade the kernel and make sure the system is
working there; you then will need to very carefully check all your hardware
components together that the kernel update should be ok. You mention GPU's;
which drivers are you using there? Iterate over all hardware.



Now, I'm going to sound like a broken record here.  If you absolutely positively
must stay at a point release for whatever reason (and there are valid reasons
for this), then you don't need to be running CentOS; it is simply not
supported.  You either need to pay up for RHEL6 with EUS, or you need to install
ScientificLinux 6 (built from the same sources that CentOS is built from, with a
different rebranding); the SL team does support getting only critical updates
but staying on a particular point release.


Upgrading to 6.5 did fix the problem, and did not (so far) seem to break my 
proprietary software.


For reference, I had already updated the kernel-firmware package (that happened 
automatically), and I could still boot the old kernel, which was how I got 
around to upgrading to 6.5.


More than anything, it's a little annoying that this is such an easy mistake to 
make, and so hard (it seems) to debug. But well, I won't be making it again.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-15 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:56:23AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:

 The advise to do a full upgrade is the best (most secure) option ..
 however, theoretically, the new kernel should boot and not cause issues
 based on the other packages.

OP said he had an InfiniBand card. For a long time it was the case
that every kernel point release needed the corresponding IB userspace
libraries.

It's also worth noting that running with an unusual set of packages
means you're running something that is not well-tested. Most
enterprise users like to run with the herd, in the middle of the herd.
Mooo. That basically means yum -y update, nothing different.
Yum let me do it and this is wise are two different things!

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-15 Thread Lamar Owen

On 10/13/2014 11:18 PM, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
I'm on a Supermicro server, X9DA7 motherboard, Intel C602 chipset, 2x 
2.4GHz Intel Xeon E5-2665 8-core CPU, 96GB RAM, and I'm running CentOS 
6.4.


I just tried to use yum to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.32-358 to 
2.6.32-431.29.2. However, I get a kernel panic on boot. The first 
kernel panic I got included stuff about acpi, so I tried adding noacpi 
noapic to the kernel boot parameters, which at least changed the 
kernel panic message, now I get (transcribed from a photo I took, so 
please excuse any errors):

...

First question:  can you boot with the old kernel still (by default 
CentOS 6 leaves a few old kernels around; I want to say the default is 
3, but it might be 5, I don't recall, and I don't have a straight 
default C6 install to check against right at the moment)?


Next question: did you also update the updated kernel-firmware package 
for the updated kernel?


The first thing I would do is downgrade the kernel and make sure the 
system is working there; you then will need to very carefully check all 
your hardware components together that the kernel update should be ok.  
You mention GPU's; which drivers are you using there? Iterate over all 
hardware.


Now, I'm going to sound like a broken record here.  If you absolutely 
positively must stay at a point release for whatever reason (and there 
are valid reasons for this), then you don't need to be running CentOS; 
it is simply not supported.  You either need to pay up for RHEL6 with 
EUS, or you need to install ScientificLinux 6 (built from the same 
sources that CentOS is built from, with a different rebranding); the SL 
team does support getting only critical updates but staying on a 
particular point release.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-15 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:22:04 -0400
Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
...
 Now, I'm going to sound like a broken record here.  If you absolutely 
 positively must stay at a point release for whatever reason (and
 there are valid reasons for this), then you don't need to be running
 CentOS; it is simply not supported.  You either need to pay up for
 RHEL6 with EUS,

To be clear EUS only provides critical updates (+some important) and
for a limited time. You can expect ~1y extra (6.3 no longer even EUS
supported and 6.4 ends in feb 2015).

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:18:54PM -0500, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
 I'm on a Supermicro server, X9DA7 motherboard, Intel C602 chipset, 2x 
 2.4GHz Intel Xeon E5-2665 8-core CPU, 96GB RAM, and I'm running CentOS 6.4.
 
 I just tried to use yum to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.32-358 to 
 2.6.32-431.29.2.

Is that a 6.4 kernel? Seems like it ought to be 6.5 from the date.

 But, I'm pretty sure this must be something simple I'm missing. Ideas for 
 figuring it out?

Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
list for support.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 10/14/2014 09:19 AM, Greg Lindahl wrote:

Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
list for support.


If yum/rpm allowed him to just upgrade the core kernel witouh the whole 
system, that means it should be possible to run with it.

Please, be positive.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:26:41AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 On 10/14/2014 09:19 AM, Greg Lindahl wrote:
 Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
 list for support.
 
 If yum/rpm allowed him to just upgrade the core kernel witouh the whole 
 system, that means it should be possible to run with it.

That is so not the case!

 Please, be positive.

Uhuh. If you ask for advice, you will receive it.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Joakim Ziegler

On 14/10/14, 1:19, Greg Lindahl wrote:

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:18:54PM -0500, Joakim Ziegler wrote:

I'm on a Supermicro server, X9DA7 motherboard, Intel C602 chipset, 2x
2.4GHz Intel Xeon E5-2665 8-core CPU, 96GB RAM, and I'm running CentOS 6.4.



I just tried to use yum to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.32-358 to
2.6.32-431.29.2.



Is that a 6.4 kernel? Seems like it ought to be 6.5 from the date.



But, I'm pretty sure this must be something simple I'm missing. Ideas for
figuring it out?



Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
list for support.


I don't know. yum info doesn't say anything about it being a 6.4 or 6.5 kernel 
(nor does it say that about the 2.6.32-358 package). How can I tell if a package 
is intended for 6.4 or 6.5? The release field simply contains el6, nothing 
about minor version.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg

On 10/14/2014 10:12 AM, Joakim Ziegler wrote:

On 14/10/14, 1:19, Greg Lindahl wrote:

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:18:54PM -0500, Joakim Ziegler wrote:

I'm on a Supermicro server, X9DA7 motherboard, Intel C602 chipset, 2x
2.4GHz Intel Xeon E5-2665 8-core CPU, 96GB RAM, and I'm running
CentOS 6.4.



I just tried to use yum to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.32-358 to
2.6.32-431.29.2.



Is that a 6.4 kernel? Seems like it ought to be 6.5 from the date.



But, I'm pretty sure this must be something simple I'm missing. Ideas
for
figuring it out?



Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
list for support.


I don't know. yum info doesn't say anything about it being a 6.4 or 6.5
kernel (nor does it say that about the 2.6.32-358 package). How can I
tell if a package is intended for 6.4 or 6.5? The release field simply
contains el6, nothing about minor version.


that's because there is no spoon, there's just el6...
http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-dcca41e9a3d5ac4c6d900a991990fd11930867d6

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Joakim Ziegler

On 14/10/14, 3:24, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:

On 10/14/2014 10:12 AM, Joakim Ziegler wrote:

On 14/10/14, 1:19, Greg Lindahl wrote:

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:18:54PM -0500, Joakim Ziegler wrote:

I'm on a Supermicro server, X9DA7 motherboard, Intel C602 chipset, 2x
2.4GHz Intel Xeon E5-2665 8-core CPU, 96GB RAM, and I'm running
CentOS 6.4.



I just tried to use yum to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.32-358 to
2.6.32-431.29.2.



Is that a 6.4 kernel? Seems like it ought to be 6.5 from the date.



But, I'm pretty sure this must be something simple I'm missing. Ideas
for
figuring it out?



Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
list for support.



I don't know. yum info doesn't say anything about it being a 6.4 or 6.5
kernel (nor does it say that about the 2.6.32-358 package). How can I
tell if a package is intended for 6.4 or 6.5? The release field simply
contains el6, nothing about minor version.



that's because there is no spoon, there's just el6...
http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-dcca41e9a3d5ac4c6d900a991990fd11930867d6


Ok, so is that a confirmation that installing this kernel, even though it might 
be for 6.5 should not in itself break anything, and that it should boot?


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck


Joakim Ziegler joa...@terminalmx.com a écrit :

Ok, so is that a confirmation that installing this kernel, even  
though it might be for 6.5 should not in itself break anything,  
and that it should boot?


Every RH errata contains the following text:
« Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata
relevant to your system have been applied. »

And that’s the case for that kernel:  
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1167.html


So, imho, just yum update and reboot. You’ll be at 6.5 and far more safer.

My 0.02€.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Joakim Ziegler

On 14/10/14, 3:32, Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:


Joakim Ziegler joa...@terminalmx.com a écrit :



Ok, so is that a confirmation that installing this kernel, even though it
might be for 6.5 should not in itself break anything, and that it should boot?



Every RH errata contains the following text:
« Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata
relevant to your system have been applied. »



And that’s the case for that kernel:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1167.html



So, imho, just yum update and reboot. You’ll be at 6.5 and far more safer.


Yeah, I might end up doing that. However, this is a system that runs proprietary 
software that explicitly runs on 6.4, so I was trying to avoid upgrading everything.


Oh well. It won't be the first time I make this particular propritary system run 
on a distro it doesn't officially support, they were stuck on CentOS 5 for the 
longest time, and I made it work on 6.3 before they got with the times.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Steve Clark

On 10/14/2014 02:29 AM, Greg Lindahl wrote:

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:26:41AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:

On 10/14/2014 09:19 AM, Greg Lindahl wrote:

Yeah: don't run random combinations of rpms and then ask the mailing
list for support.

If yum/rpm allowed him to just upgrade the core kernel witouh the whole
system, that means it should be possible to run with it.

That is so not the case!


I have been doing just that for years with CentOS 5 and CentOS 6 and never, 
ever had a problem
on a whole bunch of different hardware!


Please, be positive.

Uhuh. If you ask for advice, you will receive it.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Igal @ getRailo.org
On 10/13/2014 11:29 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:26:41AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 Please, be positive.
 Uhuh. If you ask for advice, you will receive it.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/14/2014 03:38 AM, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
 On 14/10/14, 3:32, Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:

 Joakim Ziegler joa...@terminalmx.com a écrit :
 
 Ok, so is that a confirmation that installing this kernel, even
 though it
 might be for 6.5 should not in itself break anything, and that it
 should boot?
 
 Every RH errata contains the following text:
 « Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata
 relevant to your system have been applied. »
 
 And that’s the case for that kernel:
 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1167.html
 
 So, imho, just yum update and reboot. You’ll be at 6.5 and far more
 safer.
 
 Yeah, I might end up doing that. However, this is a system that runs
 proprietary software that explicitly runs on 6.4, so I was trying to
 avoid upgrading everything.
 
 Oh well. It won't be the first time I make this particular propritary
 system run on a distro it doesn't officially support, they were stuck on
 CentOS 5 for the longest time, and I made it work on 6.3 before they got
 with the times.
 

The advise to do a full upgrade is the best (most secure) option ..
however, theoretically, the new kernel should boot and not cause issues
based on the other packages.

I would search for kernel issues for your model server and the 6.5
kernels, as I think the issue is with some hardware drivers and not
related to the other userland packages (unless you happen to be using a
kmod somewhere).

That being said, you should always try to stay current with all updates
to maximize the chances that everything works together .. and Laurent is
absolutely correct, the only tested 'upstream' solution (other than
their EUS?AUS solutions) is what he said, which is:

Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata
relevant to your system have been applied.

As far as what kernel is designed for which release ... every point
release (minor version) will have its own kernel branch associated with
it, you can see this at http://vault.centos.org/

For example, 6.0 has:

kernel-2.6.32-71.el6

All the other 6.0 kernels are kernel-2.6.32-71.x.y.el6 .. ie,
kernel-2.6.32-71.7.1.el6, kernel-2.6.32-71.14.1,
kernel-2.6.32-71.18.1.el6, kernel-2.6.32-71.18.2, etc.

The following is a breakdown of what each starts with:

6.0: kernel-2.6.32-71
6.1: kernel-2.6.32-131
6.2: kernel-2.6.32-220
6.3: kernel-2.6.32-279
6.4: kernel-2.6.32-358
6.5: kernel-2.6.32-431
6.6: kernel-2.6.32-504

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes




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[CentOS] CentOS 6.4 kernel panic on boot after upgrading kernel to 2.6.32-431.29.2

2014-10-13 Thread Joakim Ziegler
I'm on a Supermicro server, X9DA7 motherboard, Intel C602 chipset, 2x 2.4GHz 
Intel Xeon E5-2665 8-core CPU, 96GB RAM, and I'm running CentOS 6.4.


I just tried to use yum to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.32-358 to 
2.6.32-431.29.2. However, I get a kernel panic on boot. The first kernel panic I 
got included stuff about acpi, so I tried adding noacpi noapic to the kernel 
boot parameters, which at least changed the kernel panic message, now I get 
(transcribed from a photo I took, so please excuse any errors):


Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
Pid: 1, comm: init Not tainted 2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64 #1
Call Trace:
(excluding addresses, please let me know if they're good for anything)
panic
do_exit
fput
do_group
sys_exit_group
system_call_fastpath


My grub.conf entry looks like this currently:

title CentOS (2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64)
root (hd0,0)
	kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64 ro 
root=UUID=ca1e1248-0a65-4b6c-9f87-0c859eab1f17 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rhgb quiet 
nomodeset rdblacklist=nouveau  KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM verbose 
selinux=0 enforcing=0 noacpi noapic nolapic nouveau.modeset=0

initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64.img

(With all the options I added to see if it would work, including a couple from a 
very similar box that runs fine with that kernel, but on CentOS 6.5.)


This box has a bunch of cards in it, including some NVidia GPUs in a PCI 
expander, another NVidia GPU for the GUI, an Areca controller, a Mellanox IB 
adapter, and some other stuff.


But, I'm pretty sure this must be something simple I'm missing. Ideas for 
figuring it out?


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