Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-22 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 20/11/2018 à 14:48, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> I'm actually surprised with the jump in gnome versions between minor
> point releases.  I guess they trying to strike a different balance for
> the GUI / Desktop and Server services.  I actually do appreciate it for
> my desktops.  GNOME3 is the default (and likely the most tested) desktop.

On a side note. One component I do wish Red Hat would upgrade regularly
between point releases is the HPLIP printer driver. The version shipped
with RHEL/CentOS is fairly obsolete and also buggy (hp-plugin hasn't
been working for ages). Which means pretty much every new HP printer I
buy nowadays is unsupported.

There is always the possibility of installing HPLIP from upstream, which
I documented here for example :

  * https://blog.microlinux.fr/hp-pagewide-pro-centos/

But this method also has its shortcomings.  And is one of the many
reasons why I'm considering the move to Fedora on the desktop (which is
more or less a rolling distribution with releases in between).

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-22 Thread Lamar Owen

On 11/20/18 8:48 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 11/18/2018 09:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Le 18/11/2018 à 15:30, Lamar Owen a écrit :
I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues. ... 
Since Red Hat decided to roll in some major GNOME updates between 
minor releases, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if I won't be 
better off using Fedora on desktops. 
... There are new gnome-session and gdm updates that I am getting 
ready to push to CR .. gnome-session-3.28.1-6.el7.src.rpm and 
gdm-3.28.2-10.el7.src.rpm .. no idea what the actually do yet, but you 
can see if they fix any of your issues by looking at the upstream 
errata, etc. 


Well, reporting back, and I'm not 100% sure what caused my problem. I 
have used several repos since I installed the box two years ago, and 
there was quite a bit of clutter.  I'm leaning towards my use of 
xscreensaver (I like the 'flurry' screensaver) as the likely culprit, 
but I had enough clutter that it's not really practical (not to mention 
that I really can't take the time) to fully troubleshoot and be close to 
100% sure.


Since I did have some clutter to deal with, and the drives (250GB mSATA 
SSD and 1TB HGST 7K1000) are two years old at this point, I decided it 
was time to refresh my installation.  So I got a good deal on a Samsung 
860 EVO 500GB mSATA and another HGST 7K1000 (one of the best 2.5 inch 
drives out there), and waited until they came in to do a complete 
reinstall, and am rsyncing files over from the older 1TB drive as 
needed.  The Dell Precision M6700 laptop has two 2.5 inch bays plus the 
mSATA slot, so I downloaded the 1804 DVD iso (mirrors must be syncing; 
the download took way longer than it should have!), installed to the 860 
SSD with the 1TB as /home (leaving the old 1TB /home alone), and 
successfully updated with CR afterwards.  The install of the ELrepo 
nvidia driver went smoothly, and after some install work and rsync work 
I'm back operational; a USB 3.0 enclosure for the older mSATA boot drive 
made it much easier.


I spent more time trying to troubleshoot GNOME3's startup than it took 
to install and update!


In a related vein, does anyone have a pointer to a good solid GNOME3 
startup document that gives enough detail to where someone can actually 
troubleshoot without having to patch and rebuild gjs and stack trace 
javascript?  Just a simple startup log woul be nice, instead of the 
SIGSEGV in /var/log/messages.  (side note: I really hate how the 
Android GMail messes up threading; the Samsung email app is better, but 
it can't properly display a lot of the messages in the CentOS list (such 
as Johnny's) and GMail can)


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-22 Thread Kay Schenk


On 11/21/18 9:14 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:


On 11/20/2018 05:35 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 11/19/2018 01:38 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Le 18/11/2018 à 15:14, Yan Li a écrit :

The recommended method for undo an update is
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/64069, but it's not supported if 
glibc,

kernel, or selinux are changed. I'd give it a try if the system is not
critical. Make backups first.

Some other people's experience on downgrading a point release:
https://access.redhat.com/discussions/2933711

If you couldn't read that article, just search "yum history undo".


That didn't work unfortunately. The lesson learned here is :

   * CR repository works great for servers

   * never use it to upgrade a desktop


Issues for me as well doing this CR upgrade yesterday.

Two particularly upsetting though I have not investigated yet:

* the normal boot menu doesn't appear. The back up kernels and setup may 
have actually been removed. I need to look into this.


Good news on the above. With new updates pushed today, my boot menu is 
back. \o/ This saved me digging into grub2 setup. So thank you.




* My console font is now HUGE!


This is still the case, but I'm sure I can deal with this.



Likely due to a bad X server init which set display at like 640 x 360 or 
something.


Gnome desktop.

Maybe more to come as I look into this a bit more today.



I used it on all my desktops .. they work great for me .. is your
desktop Gnome/KDE for something from EPEL or Nux?





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-21 Thread mark
Kay Schenk wrote:
> On 11/20/2018 05:35 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 11/19/2018 01:38 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>>> Le 18/11/2018 à 15:14, Yan Li a écrit :
>>>
 The recommended method for undo an update is
 https://access.redhat.com/solutions/64069, but it's not supported if
 glibc, kernel, or selinux are changed. I'd give it a try if the
 system is not critical. Make backups first.

 Some other people's experience on downgrading a point release:
 https://access.redhat.com/discussions/2933711


 If you couldn't read that article, just search "yum history undo".


> Issues for me as well doing this CR upgrade yesterday.
> Two particularly upsetting though I have not investigated yet:
>
> * the normal boot menu doesn't appear. The back up kernels and setup may
> have actually been removed. I need to look into this.

Time to USB boot rescue, and
>
> * My console font is now HUGE!

Sounds like default VESA driver.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-21 Thread Kay Schenk


On 11/20/2018 05:35 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 11/19/2018 01:38 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Le 18/11/2018 à 15:14, Yan Li a écrit :

The recommended method for undo an update is
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/64069, but it's not supported if glibc,
kernel, or selinux are changed. I'd give it a try if the system is not
critical. Make backups first.

Some other people's experience on downgrading a point release:
https://access.redhat.com/discussions/2933711

If you couldn't read that article, just search "yum history undo".


That didn't work unfortunately. The lesson learned here is :

   * CR repository works great for servers

   * never use it to upgrade a desktop


Issues for me as well doing this CR upgrade yesterday.

Two particularly upsetting though I have not investigated yet:

* the normal boot menu doesn't appear. The back up kernels and setup may 
have actually been removed. I need to look into this.


* My console font is now HUGE!

Likely due to a bad X server init which set display at like 640 x 360 or 
something.


Gnome desktop.

Maybe more to come as I look into this a bit more today.



I used it on all my desktops .. they work great for me .. is your
desktop Gnome/KDE for something from EPEL or Nux?





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-20 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/18/2018 09:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 18/11/2018 à 15:30, Lamar Owen a écrit :
>> I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues.  Until
>> I blew away (by mv to a different name) the .local and .config
>> directory trees, I couldn't log in to GNOME at all.  After doing
>> that, I can log in, but if I do any actual work, GNOME crashes, and
>> abrt-cli from root in vc 2 tells me that gnome-shell got a SIGSEGV. I
>> figure all of the updates aren't in CR yet, so I'm going to pull out
>> my backup machine and work with it until I see if CR gets more
>> updates.
> 
> Since Red Hat decided to roll in some major GNOME updates between minor
> releases, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if I won't be better off
> using Fedora on desktops. That's a real question, not a rhetorical one,
> BTW. I'm currently experimenting with Fedora 29 and a minimal KDE, and
> the result is quite nice.
> 
> https://github.com/kikinovak/fedora-desktop-kde
> 
> On servers I'll always use CentOS though.
> 
> :o)
> 

I'm actually surprised with the jump in gnome versions between minor
point releases.  I guess they trying to strike a different balance for
the GUI / Desktop and Server services.  I actually do appreciate it for
my desktops.  GNOME3 is the default (and likely the most tested) desktop.

There are new gnome-session and gdm updates that I am getting ready to
push to CR .. gnome-session-3.28.1-6.el7.src.rpm and
gdm-3.28.2-10.el7.src.rpm .. no idea what the actually do yet, but you
can see if they fix any of your issues by looking at the upstream
errata, etc.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-20 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/19/2018 01:38 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 18/11/2018 à 15:14, Yan Li a écrit :
>> The recommended method for undo an update is
>> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/64069, but it's not supported if glibc,
>> kernel, or selinux are changed. I'd give it a try if the system is not
>> critical. Make backups first.
>>
>> Some other people's experience on downgrading a point release:
>> https://access.redhat.com/discussions/2933711
>>
>> If you couldn't read that article, just search "yum history undo".
> 
> That didn't work unfortunately. The lesson learned here is :
> 
>   * CR repository works great for servers
> 
>   * never use it to upgrade a desktop

I used it on all my desktops .. they work great for me .. is your
desktop Gnome/KDE for something from EPEL or Nux?





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 06:51, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just upgraded one of my CentOS 7 + GNOME desktops from the CR repo.
> After the upgrade, it seems like all of the icon themes are broken.
> Missing icons everywhere.
>
> Any idea what's going on here ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki

I may be misunderstanding what you mean by icon themes but I have
upgraded 2 systems (1 multiple times) and all my icons are there and
seem to be working. I am trying to figure out how I missed the
problem.

Do the icons show up if you have a new user?
Do the icons say they are missing files and what files are they missing?

Thanks.





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-19 Thread John Hodrien

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, Tru Huynh wrote:


it just works for me: no issue


Same.  I've had no problems from CR so far, on a number of test desktops.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-19 Thread Tru Huynh
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:51:13PM +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded one of my CentOS 7 + GNOME desktops from the CR repo.
> After the upgrade, it seems like all of the icon themes are broken.
> Missing icons everywhere.
> 
> Any idea what's going on here ?

it just works for me: no issue

[centos@salle4-70 ~]$ sudo yum list \*theme\*

Installed Packages
adwaita-cursor-theme.noarch  3.28.0-1.el7   
@cr  
adwaita-gtk2-theme.x86_643.28-2.el7 
@cr  
adwaita-icon-theme.noarch3.28.0-1.el7   
@cr  
gnome-icon-theme.noarch  3.12.0-1.el7   
@anaconda
gnome-icon-theme-extras.noarch   3.12.0-1.el7   
@anaconda
gnome-icon-theme-symbolic.noarch 3.12.0-2.el7   
@anaconda
gnome-shell-extension-user-theme.noarch  3.28.1-5.el7   
@cr  
gnome-themes-standard.x86_64 3.28-2.el7 
@cr  
hicolor-icon-theme.noarch0.12-7.el7 
@anaconda
mate-icon-theme.noarch   1.16.2-1.el7   
@epel
mate-themes.noarch   3.22.18-1.el7  
@epel
oxygen-icon-theme.noarch 4.10.5-2.el7   
@anaconda
plymouth-system-theme.x86_64 
0.8.9-0.31.20140113.el7.centos @anaconda
plymouth-theme-charge.x86_64 
0.8.9-0.31.20140113.el7.centos @anaconda
sound-theme-freedesktop.noarch   0.8-3.el7  
@anaconda
Available Packages
...

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 18/11/2018 à 15:14, Yan Li a écrit :
> The recommended method for undo an update is
> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/64069, but it's not supported if glibc,
> kernel, or selinux are changed. I'd give it a try if the system is not
> critical. Make backups first.
> 
> Some other people's experience on downgrading a point release:
> https://access.redhat.com/discussions/2933711
> 
> If you couldn't read that article, just search "yum history undo".

That didn't work unfortunately. The lesson learned here is :

  * CR repository works great for servers

  * never use it to upgrade a desktop

Cheers,

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 18/11/2018 à 15:30, Lamar Owen a écrit :
> I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues.  Until
> I blew away (by mv to a different name) the .local and .config
> directory trees, I couldn't log in to GNOME at all.  After doing
> that, I can log in, but if I do any actual work, GNOME crashes, and
> abrt-cli from root in vc 2 tells me that gnome-shell got a SIGSEGV. I
> figure all of the updates aren't in CR yet, so I'm going to pull out
> my backup machine and work with it until I see if CR gets more
> updates.

Since Red Hat decided to roll in some major GNOME updates between minor
releases, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if I won't be better off
using Fedora on desktops. That's a real question, not a rhetorical one,
BTW. I'm currently experimenting with Fedora 29 and a minimal KDE, and
the result is quite nice.

https://github.com/kikinovak/fedora-desktop-kde

On servers I'll always use CentOS though.

:o)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Yan Li

On 11/18/18 6:30 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:

I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues.  Until I blew 
away (by mv to a different name) the .local and .config directory trees, I 
couldn't log in to GNOME at all.  After doing that, I can log in, but if I do 
any actual work, GNOME crashes, and abrt-cli from root in vc 2 tells me that 
gnome-shell got a SIGSEGV. I figure all of the updates aren't in CR yet, so I'm 
going to pull out my backup machine and work with it until I see if CR gets 
more updates.  Good thing I've got vacation scheduled for next week!I did quite 
a few other things in trying to troubleshoot, including attempting a yum 
distro-sync without CR enabled, which had helped me rollback once before, but 
not this time.  Once I get my backup machine set up I can post better details.


Sorry to hear that. I've updated one workstation (Intel Skylake) to the 
latest packages in CR, and everything works well and smoothly. I like 
the new GNOME. Maybe it's something special to your machines that 
triggered those issues.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Lamar Owen



I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues.  Until I blew 
away (by mv to a different name) the .local and .config directory trees, I 
couldn't log in to GNOME at all.  After doing that, I can log in, but if I do 
any actual work, GNOME crashes, and abrt-cli from root in vc 2 tells me that 
gnome-shell got a SIGSEGV. I figure all of the updates aren't in CR yet, so I'm 
going to pull out my backup machine and work with it until I see if CR gets 
more updates.  Good thing I've got vacation scheduled for next week!I did quite 
a few other things in trying to troubleshoot, including attempting a yum 
distro-sync without CR enabled, which had helped me rollback once before, but 
not this time.  Once I get my backup machine set up I can post better details.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Yan Li
The recommended method for undo an update is
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/64069, but it's not supported if glibc,
kernel, or selinux are changed. I'd give it a try if the system is not
critical. Make backups first.

Some other people's experience on downgrading a point release:
https://access.redhat.com/discussions/2933711

If you couldn't read that article, just search "yum history undo".

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, 4:01 AM Nicolas Kovacs  Le 18/11/2018 à 12:51, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit :
> > I just upgraded one of my CentOS 7 + GNOME desktops from the CR repo.
> > After the upgrade, it seems like all of the icon themes are broken.
> > Missing icons everywhere.
>
> As a follow-up question : is it possible to roll back the update made
> from the CR repository? Sort of a downgrade to the official CentOS 7.5?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 18/11/2018 à 12:51, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit :
> I just upgraded one of my CentOS 7 + GNOME desktops from the CR repo.
> After the upgrade, it seems like all of the icon themes are broken.
> Missing icons everywhere.

As a follow-up question : is it possible to roll back the update made
from the CR repository? Sort of a downgrade to the official CentOS 7.5?

Cheers,

Niki

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[CentOS] CentOS 7 + GNOME : all icon themes broken after update from CR

2018-11-18 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi,

I just upgraded one of my CentOS 7 + GNOME desktops from the CR repo.
After the upgrade, it seems like all of the icon themes are broken.
Missing icons everywhere.

Any idea what's going on here ?

Cheers,

Niki
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