[CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
-Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 11:41 -0500, Jason Ricles wrote: Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. I would recommend RHEL for critical systems or those that must be certified for a particular purpose, such as CA servers. We've been using CentOS for years now on our internal networks for software development, local site mail service (SMTP/POP/IMAP), file services (FTP/NFS/SMB/CIFS), DNS, local web servers, etc. It works very well for this, especially for software development where multiple people can get a GUI login through Stunnel-VNC-GDM and/or shell through ssh. We're also using CentOS for software maintenance of RHEL hosts on our aircraft simulators. Many of our software developers prefer a CentOS workstation because of its versatility. On those we install MS Windoze as a KVM guest for those applications that require it. My internal workstation is setup this way for use network/systems admin and analysis, software development, as well as normal office tasks. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
That is true, which we are using ours for critical things. Guess RHEL will be the way to go till Centos is maybe approved for critical systems as well. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Cal Webster cwebs...@ec.rr.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 11:41 -0500, Jason Ricles wrote: Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. I would recommend RHEL for critical systems or those that must be certified for a particular purpose, such as CA servers. We've been using CentOS for years now on our internal networks for software development, local site mail service (SMTP/POP/IMAP), file services (FTP/NFS/SMB/CIFS), DNS, local web servers, etc. It works very well for this, especially for software development where multiple people can get a GUI login through Stunnel-VNC-GDM and/or shell through ssh. We're also using CentOS for software maintenance of RHEL hosts on our aircraft simulators. Many of our software developers prefer a CentOS workstation because of its versatility. On those we install MS Windoze as a KVM guest for those applications that require it. My internal workstation is setup this way for use network/systems admin and analysis, software development, as well as normal office tasks. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
-Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:42 Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. But you will still need a (self?) support plan to be STIG compliant. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
Do you mean as in terms of updates? I forget some of the STIGs and don't deal with that part of our projects. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:42 Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. But you will still need a (self?) support plan to be STIG compliant. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 13:09 -0500, Jason Ricles wrote: That is true, which we are using ours for critical things. Guess RHEL will be the way to go till Centos is maybe approved for critical systems as well. That's really up to the program manager in which the machine would be used. He would make a determination whether it's supportable and maintainable, based on in-house expertise and/or outside contract support. RHEL subscriptions give you instant support and patches if necessary. Otherwise, unless another RHEL subscriber has the same issue, you'd have to wait for the community to fix something then get it integrated into RHEL before filtering down to CentOS. If this is acceptable then CentOS is an option. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Cal Webster cwebs...@ec.rr.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 11:41 -0500, Jason Ricles wrote: Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. I would recommend RHEL for critical systems or those that must be certified for a particular purpose, such as CA servers. We've been using CentOS for years now on our internal networks for software development, local site mail service (SMTP/POP/IMAP), file services (FTP/NFS/SMB/CIFS), DNS, local web servers, etc. It works very well for this, especially for software development where multiple people can get a GUI login through Stunnel-VNC-GDM and/or shell through ssh. We're also using CentOS for software maintenance of RHEL hosts on our aircraft simulators. Many of our software developers prefer a CentOS workstation because of its versatility. On those we install MS Windoze as a KVM guest for those applications that require it. My internal workstation is setup this way for use network/systems admin and analysis, software development, as well as normal office tasks. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DoD approval of Centos Was RE: Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC
-Original Message- From: Cal Webster Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 13:31 On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 13:09 -0500, Jason Ricles wrote: That is true, which we are using ours for critical things. Guess RHEL will be the way to go till Centos is maybe approved for critical systems as well. That's really up to the program manager in which the machine would be More correct the DAA [designated approving authority], not the PM. used. He would make a determination whether it's supportable and maintainable, based on in-house expertise and/or outside contract support. RHEL subscriptions give you instant support and patches if necessary. Otherwise, unless another RHEL subscriber has the same issue, you'd have to wait for the community to fix something then get it integrated into RHEL before filtering down to CentOS. If this is acceptable then CentOS is an option. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Cal Webster cwebs...@ec.rr.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-12-04 at 11:41 -0500, Jason Ricles wrote: Gotcha, I also work with DoD for Navy systems and was surprised by that. So you mean if we don't want to pay RHEL licensing fees, we can use Centos? Since we are paying about $100 per RHEL license. I would recommend RHEL for critical systems or those that must be certified for a particular purpose, such as CA servers. We've been using CentOS for years now on our internal networks for software development, local site mail service (SMTP/POP/IMAP), file services (FTP/NFS/SMB/CIFS), DNS, local web servers, etc. It works very well for this, especially for software development where multiple people can get a GUI login through Stunnel-VNC-GDM and/or shell through ssh. We're also using CentOS for software maintenance of RHEL hosts on our aircraft simulators. Many of our software developers prefer a CentOS workstation because of its versatility. On those we install MS Windoze as a KVM guest for those applications that require it. My internal workstation is setup this way for use network/systems admin and analysis, software development, as well as normal office tasks. On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Jason Ricles Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox fails to authenticate .mil sites with New DoDCAC I thought DoD used RHEL and not Centos, or did Centos did approved DADEMS recently? DADMS is a Navy system, but yes Centos is approved for use by DISA. You would STIG it just like RHEL. -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
