Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Nux!]

Thanks, I'll raise the issue

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- Original Message -
> From: "isdtor" <isd...@gmail.com>
> To: centos@centos.org
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2016 14:55:40
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

> Fred Smith writes:
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Nux! wrote:
>> > I've rebuilt libmateweather for EL7 with the aforementioned patch and it 
>> > seems
>> > to have fixed the issue.
>> > Feel free to use it until EPEL package the fix.
>> > 
>> > http://li.nux.ro/download/nux//tmp/libmateweather7/
>> 
>> thanks Nux!
>> 
>> I installed it and it now gets current conditions just fine.
>> 
>> but I tried several different locations and all of them say that there
>> is no forecast available. Possible coincidence??
> 
> The patch is incomplete. The Mate guys didn't patch this file. Run tcpdump
> and verify it's trying query www.weather.gov/forecasts.
> 
> # pwd
> /root/rpmbuild/SOURCES/libgweather-2.28.0/libgweather
> # grep http * |grep forecast
> weather-iwin.c:/* see the description here:
> http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/xml/ */
> weather-iwin.c:url = g_strdup_printf
> ("http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/xml/sample_products/browser_interface/ndfdBrowserClientByDay.php?=%.02f=%.02f=24+hourly=%04d-%02d-%02d=7;,
> weather-iwin.c:url = g_strdup_printf
> ("http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/forecasts/zone/%s/%s.txt;, state, zone);
> [root@torr libgweather]#
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[adrian]

Hi,
NOAA moved the url on which you can get the data.
I use clweather, a little command-line util, I just change the URL in the
sourcecode and it worked again.
The move happen a couple of weeks ago.
The new URL to point the application to  is:
http://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/observations/metar/decoded/

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[isdtor]

 
> The patch is incomplete. The Mate guys didn't patch this file. Run tcpdump
> and verify it's trying query www.weather.gov/forecasts.
 
Sorry, I meant http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/forecasts/... .

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[isdtor]

Fred Smith writes:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Nux! wrote:
> > I've rebuilt libmateweather for EL7 with the aforementioned patch and it 
> > seems to have fixed the issue.
> > Feel free to use it until EPEL package the fix.
> > 
> > http://li.nux.ro/download/nux//tmp/libmateweather7/
> 
> thanks Nux! 
> 
> I installed it and it now gets current conditions just fine.
> 
> but I tried several different locations and all of them say that there
> is no forecast available. Possible coincidence??
 
The patch is incomplete. The Mate guys didn't patch this file. Run tcpdump
and verify it's trying query www.weather.gov/forecasts.

# pwd
/root/rpmbuild/SOURCES/libgweather-2.28.0/libgweather
# grep http * |grep forecast
weather-iwin.c:/* see the description here: 
http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/xml/ */
weather-iwin.c:url = g_strdup_printf 
("http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/xml/sample_products/browser_interface/ndfdBrowserClientByDay.php?=%.02f=%.02f=24+hourly=%04d-%02d-%02d=7;,
weather-iwin.c:url = g_strdup_printf 
("http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/forecasts/zone/%s/%s.txt;, state, zone);
[root@torr libgweather]# 

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Nux! wrote:
> I've rebuilt libmateweather for EL7 with the aforementioned patch and it 
> seems to have fixed the issue.
> Feel free to use it until EPEL package the fix.
> 
> http://li.nux.ro/download/nux//tmp/libmateweather7/

thanks Nux! 

I installed it and it now gets current conditions just fine.

but I tried several different locations and all of them say that there
is no forecast available. Possible coincidence??

Fred
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> - Original Message -
> > From: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro>
> > To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2016 08:13:00
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded
> 
> > Fred,
> > 
> > Check here
> > https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/tree/libgweather/weather-metar.c?h=gnome-2-30
> > 
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> > Nux!
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> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Fred Smith" <fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
> >> To: centos@centos.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2016 02:17:27
> >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded
> > 
> >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:22:58PM +0100, Nux! wrote:
> >>> It looks like it was quickly fixed in MATE, hope EPEL moves fast... :)
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/mate-desktop/libmateweather/issues/30#issuecomment-242190096
> >>> --
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> >>> Nux!
> >>> www.nux.ro
> >> 
> >> Just for grins, I've been looking through the sources for the version
> >> I'm running that does not contain the fix. Either I"m blind, or there's
> >> a whole lot of obscurity built in there. I cannot, for the life of me,
> >> find where it hides the URL it goes to to get the weather data. Since
> >> there ought to be a fix coming down the pipe Real Soon Now, I won't
> >> sorry about it, but it woulda been nice if I coulda figured it out. :(
> >> 
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Pete Geenhuizen]

Thanks Nux, works just fine on Centos 6.8


On 08/25/16 04:27, Nux! wrote:

I've patched libgweather with the same MATE patch and it seems to be working 
fine.
Give it a try
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/tmp/libgweather6/

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From: "isdtor" <isd...@gmail.com>
To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2016 15:19:20
Subject: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded
The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6.
http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are there
any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of a custom
radar map.

As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome clock
applet was using the same service.

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Nux!]

I've patched libgweather with the same MATE patch and it seems to be working 
fine.
Give it a try
http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/tmp/libgweather6/

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- Original Message -
> From: "isdtor" <isd...@gmail.com>
> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2016 15:19:20
> Subject: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

> The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6.
> http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are there
> any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of a custom
> radar map.
> 
> As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome clock
> applet was using the same service.
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Nux!]

I've rebuilt libmateweather for EL7 with the aforementioned patch and it seems 
to have fixed the issue.
Feel free to use it until EPEL package the fix.

http://li.nux.ro/download/nux//tmp/libmateweather7/

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> From: "Nux!" <n...@li.nux.ro>
> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2016 08:13:00
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

> Fred,
> 
> Check here
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/tree/libgweather/weather-metar.c?h=gnome-2-30
> 
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> - Original Message -
>> From: "Fred Smith" <fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2016 02:17:27
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:22:58PM +0100, Nux! wrote:
>>> It looks like it was quickly fixed in MATE, hope EPEL moves fast... :)
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/mate-desktop/libmateweather/issues/30#issuecomment-242190096
>>> --
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>>> Nux!
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>> 
>> Just for grins, I've been looking through the sources for the version
>> I'm running that does not contain the fix. Either I"m blind, or there's
>> a whole lot of obscurity built in there. I cannot, for the life of me,
>> find where it hides the URL it goes to to get the weather data. Since
>> there ought to be a fix coming down the pipe Real Soon Now, I won't
>> sorry about it, but it woulda been nice if I coulda figured it out. :(
>> 
>> 
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Nux!]

Fred,

Check here 
https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgweather/tree/libgweather/weather-metar.c?h=gnome-2-30

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- Original Message -
> From: "Fred Smith" <fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
> To: centos@centos.org
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August, 2016 02:17:27
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:22:58PM +0100, Nux! wrote:
>> It looks like it was quickly fixed in MATE, hope EPEL moves fast... :)
>> 
>> https://github.com/mate-desktop/libmateweather/issues/30#issuecomment-242190096
>> --
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>> Nux!
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> 
> Just for grins, I've been looking through the sources for the version
> I'm running that does not contain the fix. Either I"m blind, or there's
> a whole lot of obscurity built in there. I cannot, for the life of me,
> find where it hides the URL it goes to to get the weather data. Since
> there ought to be a fix coming down the pipe Real Soon Now, I won't
> sorry about it, but it woulda been nice if I coulda figured it out. :(
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Fred Smith]

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:22:58PM +0100, Nux! wrote:
> It looks like it was quickly fixed in MATE, hope EPEL moves fast... :)
> 
> https://github.com/mate-desktop/libmateweather/issues/30#issuecomment-242190096
> --
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Just for grins, I've been looking through the sources for the version
I'm running that does not contain the fix. Either I"m blind, or there's
a whole lot of obscurity built in there. I cannot, for the life of me,
find where it hides the URL it goes to to get the weather data. Since
there ought to be a fix coming down the pipe Real Soon Now, I won't
sorry about it, but it woulda been nice if I coulda figured it out. :(


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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[John R Pierce]

On 8/24/2016 2:57 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
anyways, here's the bulletin saying the old weather.noaa.gov web api 
is discontinued

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/scn16-16wngccb.htm

the raw data is now distributed here,
http://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/


actually, this sort of raw data is probably more parsable.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobextXml.php?sid=KSFO=48

or, the microcast for a specific lat/long,
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=36.9733=-122.0358=digitalDWML

(whihc is this page in XML format
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=36.9733=-122.0358=0=english=digital 
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[John R Pierce]

On 8/24/2016 2:44 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 8/24/2016 8:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

Had you gone to noaa.gov, and clicked on climate, it appears that they
want to now charge you $3/yr for the service.


I'm getting DNS not found errors from anything in NOAA.GOV.


flushed my dns cache, now its working, whack.



anyways, 'climate' refers to historical averages by 
location/month/week/date.presumably the API involved here was for 
current weather conditions and forecast.


wait, that noaa.gov $3/person is saying thats what the National Weather 
service costs to provide annually.   its not a fee.


anyways, here's the bulletin saying the old weather.noaa.gov web api is 
discontinued

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/scn16-16wngccb.htm

the raw data is now distributed here,
http://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/



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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[John R Pierce]

On 8/24/2016 8:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

Had you gone to noaa.gov, and clicked on climate, it appears that they
want to now charge you $3/yr for the service.


I'm getting DNS not found errors from anything in NOAA.GOV.

anyways, 'climate' refers to historical averages by 
location/month/week/date.presumably the API involved here was for 
current weather conditions and forecast.





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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Nux!]

It looks like it was quickly fixed in MATE, hope EPEL moves fast... :)

https://github.com/mate-desktop/libmateweather/issues/30#issuecomment-242190096
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- Frank Cox  wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:13:51 +0100
> isdtor wrote:
> 
> > Nux! writes:
> > > Hm, this is bad. I was relying on this feature heavily.
> > > Let's see if there is a fix. I don't imagine RH will care about this on
> > > EL6, but maybe MATE guys could help.
> >  
> > The code for the respective applets is quite different. Mate uses
> > weather.com, but I bet the API is different and a fix requires actual 
> > coding.
> 
> The MATE clock applet's "show weather" function has quit on my desktops as of 
> sometime yesterday.  And the stand-alone weather applet doesn't work at all, 
> either.
> 
> I was wondering why that had happened.
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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:13:51 +0100
isdtor wrote:

> Nux! writes:
> > Hm, this is bad. I was relying on this feature heavily.
> > Let's see if there is a fix. I don't imagine RH will care about this on
> > EL6, but maybe MATE guys could help.
>  
> The code for the respective applets is quite different. Mate uses
> weather.com, but I bet the API is different and a fix requires actual coding.

The MATE clock applet's "show weather" function has quit on my desktops as of 
sometime yesterday.  And the stand-alone weather applet doesn't work at all, 
either.

I was wondering why that had happened.

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Gilbert Sebenste]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:

The data is still there for free. The National Weather Service sent out a 
message several months ago that http://weather.noaa.gov and the data on that 
site would be shut down due to server consolidaton.


Here's the official announcement, and where the data is available now:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/scn16-16wngccb.htm


That's server consolidation (sorry for not spell checking), and
the data you may want is specifically here:

ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Gilbert Sebenste]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:


isdtor wrote:

The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6.
http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are
there any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of a
custom radar map.

As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome clock
applet was using the same service.



"Smaller" government, Cut taxes (for the rich). Make people pay for what
they're already paying taxes to support


Had you gone to noaa.gov, and clicked on climate, it appears that they
want to now charge you $3/yr for the service.


The data is still there for free. The National Weather Service sent out a 
message several months ago that http://weather.noaa.gov and the data on 
that site would be shut down due to server consolidaton.


Here's the official announcement, and where the data is available now:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/notification/scn16-16wngccb.htm

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, August 24, 2016 10:46 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> isdtor wrote:
>> The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6.
>> http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are
>> there any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of
>> a
>> custom radar map.
>>
>> As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome
>> clock
>> applet was using the same service.
>>
> 
> "Smaller" government, Cut taxes (for the rich). Make people pay for what
> they're already paying taxes to support
> 
>
> Had you gone to noaa.gov, and clicked on climate, it appears that they
> want to now charge you $3/yr for the service.


It would be good to have someone sue US government for that. According to
US law, everything paid for by taxpayer's money should be freely
accessible by everybody (including non-US entities). Compare, e.g., with
GPS.


Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[m . roth]

isdtor wrote:
> The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6.
> http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are
> there any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of a
> custom radar map.
>
> As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome clock
> applet was using the same service.
>

"Smaller" government, Cut taxes (for the rich). Make people pay for what
they're already paying taxes to support


Had you gone to noaa.gov, and clicked on climate, it appears that they
want to now charge you $3/yr for the service.

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[isdtor]

Nux! writes:
> Hm, this is bad. I was relying on this feature heavily.
> Let's see if there is a fix. I don't imagine RH will care about this on EL6, 
> but maybe MATE guys could help.
 
The code for the respective applets is quite different. Mate uses weather.com, 
but I bet the API is different and a fix requires actual coding.

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[Nux!]

Hm, this is bad. I was relying on this feature heavily.
Let's see if there is a fix. I don't imagine RH will care about this on EL6, 
but maybe MATE guys could help.

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- Original Message -
> From: "isdtor" <isd...@gmail.com>
> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2016 15:19:20
> Subject: [CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

> The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6.
> http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are there
> any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of a custom
> radar map.
> 
> As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome clock
> applet was using the same service.
> 
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[CentOS] Gnome weather applet stranded

[isdtor]

The Gnome weather report applet has ceased working on CentOS5/6. 
http://weather.noaa.gov/ says "This service is no longer available". Are there 
any good alternatives? I liked the applet as it allowed the use of a custom 
radar map.

As I just discovered, the weather functionality of the CentOS6 Gnome clock 
applet was using the same service.

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