Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 16:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204) What does FAILS actually mean? I assume that you are only getting to the grub menu when booting from an F13 CD and chainloading to the CentOS grub. If my assumption about the grub menu is correct, one of your grub stages must be broken. Have you tried re-installing grub with grub-install or at the grub cli? What is the output of fdisk -l, cat /etc/fstab, and cat /boot/grub/device.map? Thanks for your debugging steps, this has already been confirmed as a BIOS / grub bug with this dell see the subject for your answer. I am currently trying to make a workaround which is not invasive on the system or procedure. You're welcome. I am sorry. I didn't have the time to read the bug url yesterday. I now have - and have googled away... Amazing! There seem to be two solutions, replace grub with lilo or grub2, neither of which conform to your not invasive on the system or procedure requirement. Akemi Yagi suggested that you install F13 and chainload CentOS. It sounds nuts but it seems like the right solution to avoid messing with your default CentOS install - F13 as a bootloader (!). It reminds me of a colleague who has a Mac and keeps a minimal OSX install to boot F12 because he couldn't get F12 to work as a single-boot OS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: There seem to be two solutions, replace grub with lilo or grub2, neither of which conform to your not invasive on the system or procedure requirement. Akemi Yagi suggested that you install F13 and chainload CentOS. It sounds nuts but it seems like the right solution to avoid messing with your default CentOS install - F13 as a bootloader (!). It reminds me of a colleague who has a Mac and keeps a minimal OSX install to boot F12 because he couldn't get F12 to work as a single-boot OS. I myself have one desktop machine that refuses to cooperate with grub (or should I say grub refuses to cooperate with the hardware?). Long story short, I installed lilo and decided not to spend more time on the problem. The machine has been running fine for years... :) Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) Boot centos 5.5 x86_64 install drop to shell and chroot (WORKS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches centos 5.5 grub (WORKS) Compiled and installed grub package from fedora 13 on centos 5.5 x86_64 same problem. (FAILS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. If I understand the situation correctly, you can boot Fedora13 without any extra steps. Then, can you add a stanza for CentOS in the F13's grub.conf file and boot from there? Or use chainloader if CentOS has grub installed in its partition. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
Jason Pyeron wrote: Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) Boot centos 5.5 x86_64 install drop to shell and chroot (WORKS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches centos 5.5 grub (WORKS) Compiled and installed grub package from fedora 13 on centos 5.5 x86_64 same problem. (FAILS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. Let me get this straight: you've installed CentOS 5.5? Have you checked /boot/grub/device.map, so that it looks something like # # this device map was generated by anaconda (hd0) /dev/sda # Do you have a /boot/grub/grub.conf? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) Boot centos 5.5 x86_64 install drop to shell and chroot (WORKS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches centos 5.5 grub (WORKS) Compiled and installed grub package from fedora 13 on centos 5.5 x86_64 same problem. (FAILS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. What does FAILS actually mean? I assume that you are only getting to the grub menu when booting from an F13 CD and chainloading to the CentOS grub. If my assumption about the grub menu is correct, one of your grub stages must be broken. Have you tried re-installing grub with grub-install or at the grub cli? What is the output of fdisk -l, cat /etc/fstab, and cat /boot/grub/device.map? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Akemi Yagi Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 15:57 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. If I understand the situation correctly, you can boot Fedora13 without any extra steps. Then, can you add a stanza for CentOS in the F13's grub.conf file and boot from there? Or use chainloader if CentOS has grub installed in its partition. Sounds like a plan. I will learn how to do that, and follow up within the week. Thanks. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 16:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204) On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) Boot centos 5.5 x86_64 install drop to shell and chroot (WORKS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches centos 5.5 grub (WORKS) Compiled and installed grub package from fedora 13 on centos 5.5 x86_64 same problem. (FAILS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. What does FAILS actually mean? I assume that you are only getting to the grub menu when booting from an F13 CD and chainloading to the CentOS grub. Thanks for your debugging steps, this has already been confirmed as a BIOS / grub bug with this dell see the subject for your answer. I am currently trying to make a workaround which is not invasive on the system or procedure. If my assumption about the grub menu is correct, one of your grub stages must be broken. Have you tried re-installing grub with grub-install or at the grub cli? What is the output of fdisk -l, cat /etc/fstab, and cat /boot/grub/device.map? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 16:11 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204) Jason Pyeron wrote: Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) Boot centos 5.5 x86_64 install drop to shell and chroot (WORKS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches centos 5.5 grub (WORKS) Compiled and installed grub package from fedora 13 on centos 5.5 x86_64 same problem. (FAILS) Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer grub installed on centos (WORKS) Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk layout. (WORKS) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204 Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended. Grub conf fine, take HD out and put in machine with different bios all is fine. Let me get this straight: you've installed CentOS 5.5? Have you checked /boot/grub/device.map, so that it looks something like # # this device map was generated by anaconda (hd0) /dev/sda # Do you have a /boot/grub/grub.conf? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
Jason Pyeron wrote: [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Jason Pyeron wrote: Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) snip Grub conf fine, take HD out and put in machine with different bios all is fine. snip Hmmm... I can't remember if I mention this a day or two ago, but have you checked the BIOS for a funky setting - maybe under advanced or integrated peripherals, to see if it's got a setting for... oh, was it SATA mode that I had the problem with? See if there's such a thing, and if so, change it to RAID instead of IDE. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 17:20 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204) Jason Pyeron wrote: [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Jason Pyeron wrote: Steps tried: Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB (FAILS) snip Grub conf fine, take HD out and put in machine with different bios all is fine. snip Hmmm... I can't remember if I mention this a day or two ago, but have you checked the BIOS for a funky setting - maybe under advanced or integrated peripherals, to see if it's got a setting for... oh, was it SATA mode that I had the problem with? See if there's such a thing, and if so, change it to RAID instead of IDE. The BIOS has almost no settings to change, and those that do exist have been toggled. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
