Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-26 Thread John R Pierce

On 8/26/2016 9:28 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Thanks again. These build systems are not under my project's direct
control, so ???


so what target environments are these build environments currently used 
for?   thats pretty much what you're going to get.



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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-26 Thread Kay Schenk


On 08/25/2016 06:26 PM, Peter wrote:
> On 26/08/16 06:18, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On 08/25/2016 09:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 I do realize the sane thing to do is to have the builbots --
 smoketest environments -- match the production environment
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the sane thing to do would be to use buildbots that support LSB:
>>>
>>> http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/LSB/tutorial/tut.html
>>
>> Great resource! Thanks...
> 
> mock is available for ubuntu:
> 
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mock
> 
> Using that you can target various different rpm plaforms properly
> without requiring a different build host for each.
> 
> This is what many (if not most) projects use to build for CentOS.
> 
> 
> Peter

Thanks again. These build systems are not under my project's direct
control, so ???


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-25 Thread Peter
On 26/08/16 06:18, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> On 08/25/2016 09:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> I do realize the sane thing to do is to have the builbots --
>>> smoketest environments -- match the production environment
>>
>>
>> I think the sane thing to do would be to use buildbots that support LSB:
>>
>> http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/LSB/tutorial/tut.html
> 
> Great resource! Thanks...

mock is available for ubuntu:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mock

Using that you can target various different rpm plaforms properly
without requiring a different build host for each.

This is what many (if not most) projects use to build for CentOS.


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-25 Thread Alexander Dalloz

Am 25.08.2016 um 19:44 schrieb Gordon Messmer:

On 08/25/2016 09:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

I do realize the sane thing to do is to have the builbots --
smoketest environments -- match the production environment



I think the sane thing to do would be to use buildbots that support LSB:

http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/LSB/tutorial/tut.html


These days you would use container technology to achieve that, docker 
i.e., with fitting images.


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk


On 08/25/2016 10:44 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 08/25/2016 09:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> I do realize the sane thing to do is to have the builbots --
>> smoketest environments -- match the production environment
> 
> 
> I think the sane thing to do would be to use buildbots that support LSB:
> 
> http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/LSB/tutorial/tut.html

Great resource! Thanks...


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-25 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 08/25/2016 09:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

I do realize the sane thing to do is to have the builbots --
smoketest environments -- match the production environment



I think the sane thing to do would be to use buildbots that support LSB:

http://www.ludism.org/~rwhe/LSB/tutorial/tut.html

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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk


On 08/24/2016 07:53 PM, Peter wrote:
> On 25/08/16 13:21, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> To all...yes I meant glibc, not glib. Target environment -- could be any
>> version of Linux. This is for Apache OpenOffice. The buildbots we've been
>> using are being decommisioned due to EOL. As a developer on that project, I
>> need to be able to test and use the builds. We'll be moving to a Ubuntu 14
>> environment, which is spec'd at glibc 2.19 near as I can determine. So a
>> long story.  We will not be building for targeted environments.
> 
> Well, at the end of the day, if you're trying to build for multiple
> environments then you really need to build to the lowest common
> denominator.  What you seem to want is just the opposite, so short story
> is that it's bad planning to build to such a new version of glibc.
> You're not going to get around this, it just won't work.
> 
> 
> Peter

Copy that. I do realize the sane thing to do is to have the builbots --
smoketest environments -- match the production environment, which
currently is spec'd at CentOS 5.x. Unfortunately, I don't have direct
control over some of this. 


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread geo.inbox.ignored


On 08/24/2016 08:21 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
<<<>>>

> We'll be moving to a Ubuntu 14 environment, which is spec'd at glibc 2.19
> near as I can determine. So a long story.  We will not be building for
> targeted environments.

answer to you problem is in your reply.

install ubuntu 14 to a system and build with it.

have you not heard the adage, 'you can not get blood from a turnip'?


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread Peter
On 25/08/16 13:21, Kay Schenk wrote:
> To all...yes I meant glibc, not glib. Target environment -- could be any
> version of Linux. This is for Apache OpenOffice. The buildbots we've been
> using are being decommisioned due to EOL. As a developer on that project, I
> need to be able to test and use the builds. We'll be moving to a Ubuntu 14
> environment, which is spec'd at glibc 2.19 near as I can determine. So a
> long story.  We will not be building for targeted environments.

Well, at the end of the day, if you're trying to build for multiple
environments then you really need to build to the lowest common
denominator.  What you seem to want is just the opposite, so short story
is that it's bad planning to build to such a new version of glibc.
You're not going to get around this, it just won't work.


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Aug 24, 2016 5:05 PM, "Gordon Messmer"  wrote:
>
> On 08/24/2016 04:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>> Due to a proposed changeover to build machines for a project I'm
>> involved with, I need at least glib 2.19.
>
>
> Do you know why?  As in, what features or fixes are required?  If not, I
think John's question is pertinent.  If you're building a binaries to
distribute, your best bet might actually be to produce multiple builds
targeting specific Linux distributions. Alternately, some specific LSB
release (none of which, as far as I can tell, require glibc 2.19+).

To all...yes I meant glibc, not glib. Target environment -- could be any
version of Linux. This is for Apache OpenOffice. The buildbots we've been
using are being decommisioned due to EOL. As a developer on that project, I
need to be able to test and use the builds. We'll be moving to a Ubuntu 14
environment, which is spec'd at glibc 2.19 near as I can determine. So a
long story.  We will not be building for targeted environments.

Write after I wrote this, I thought maybe I could get a zip of what I
needed and just install it without overwriting my setup. Then set an env
variable to run the generated build.

Thanks for the responses.

>
>
>> Right now I have glib 2.12,
>> and even on CentOS7-32 bit, what I see is glib 2.14.
>
>
> CentOS 7 is built on glibc 2.17.
>
> Also, minor correction: "glib" is the name of a different library than
glibc.
>
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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 08/24/2016 04:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Due to a proposed changeover to build machines for a project I'm
involved with, I need at least glib 2.19.


Do you know why?  As in, what features or fixes are required?  If not, I 
think John's question is pertinent.  If you're building a binaries to 
distribute, your best bet might actually be to produce multiple builds 
targeting specific Linux distributions. Alternately, some specific LSB 
release (none of which, as far as I can tell, require glibc 2.19+).



Right now I have glib 2.12,
and even on CentOS7-32 bit, what I see is glib 2.14.


CentOS 7 is built on glibc 2.17.

Also, minor correction: "glib" is the name of a different library than 
glibc.


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 9:44 AM, John R Pierce  wrote:
> On 8/24/2016 4:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>> Due to a proposed changeover to build machines for a project I'm
>> involved with, I need at least glib 2.19. Right now I have glib 2.12,
>> and even on CentOS7-32 bit, what I see is glib 2.14. Is a higher glib
>> available anywhere that might work with my current 6.8. I see I can
>> download it from SourceForge but I am wondering what the results might me.
>
>
> whats the target OS for the builds from these build machines ?
>
> to change the default libc would require rebuilding (and retesting) the
> whole OS.

I believe glib is just the Gnome utility libraries, unlike glibc which
has the core C runtime libraries.  Upgrading glib is probably less
dire, though it


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Re: [CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread John R Pierce

On 8/24/2016 4:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Due to a proposed changeover to build machines for a project I'm
involved with, I need at least glib 2.19. Right now I have glib 2.12,
and even on CentOS7-32 bit, what I see is glib 2.14. Is a higher glib
available anywhere that might work with my current 6.8. I see I can
download it from SourceForge but I am wondering what the results might me.


whats the target OS for the builds from these build machines ?

to change the default libc would require rebuilding (and retesting) the 
whole OS.




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[CentOS] I need glibc 2.19+ for 32 bit CentOS 6.8 or CentOS7

2016-08-24 Thread Kay Schenk
Hello all--

Due to a proposed changeover to build machines for a project I'm
involved with, I need at least glib 2.19. Right now I have glib 2.12,
and even on CentOS7-32 bit, what I see is glib 2.14. Is a higher glib
available anywhere that might work with my current 6.8. I see I can
download it from SourceForge but I am wondering what the results might me.

I really like CentOS and would hate to change distros at this point,
but, well, it might come to that. :(

Any advice truly appreciated.

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