Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Toralf Lund
On 19/08/14 17:19, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Tue, August 19, 2014 9:08 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
>> On 19/08/14 15:15, John R. Dennison wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
 I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in
 some
 jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment
 through
 litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous
 torts to
 impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.
 Those
 sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.
>>> It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list
>>> owners.  If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to
>>> using pencil and paper.
>> It should be pretty clear in this case that the "intended recepient" is
>> the mailing list and consequently everyone subscribed to it. So what is
>> there to make all this noise about?
> Wrong. Legally. It is sender and sender alone who knows one's own intent.
I'm not so sure about that. Isn't there is also the matter of what one 
may reasonably be expected to assume or understand, and that kind of thing?
>
>> Furthermore, the information is added by the SMTP server (not the MUA),
>> so it can't be removed just like that, and due to firewall policies etc.
>> it's not very easy to send the messages via a different one. And trying
>> to get this feature removed from the service would be fighting windmills.
> If you agree it is nonsense, start using free e-mail (gmail, hotmail,
> yahoo mail to name some, even though I may not agree with privacy policies
> of at leas some of them).
I think the note is unnecessary, but nothing to make a fuss about. Based 
on that,

 1. I can't see why I should let work-related e-mails bog down one of my
private email accounts.
 2. I don't think I have a good enough reason for degrading to one of
those annoying web interfaces. (Like I said, I can't use a real
email application with an outside address, thanks to the firewall.)


>> I should imagine that many corporate users face similar issues, so
>> "restricting by policy" like you suggest would mean excluding all of
>> them from the list(s). Is that what you want?
> I was expecting the list owner to kick one or both of us two and ban from
> the list forever.
That would be more reasonable ;-)

>   For creating unnecessary noise on the list. Would that
> happen, I will have to subscribe my different e-mail address (on another
> server I maintain as well). You (if you too will be banned from the list),
> hopefully, will start using free (as opposed to "slave"? - OK, disclaimer:
> just kidding, no legal catch on me here -;) e-mail address.
>
> As far as fighting windmills is concerned: I'm fighting against one of
> them being brought into my backyard (OK, not _my_, but the one of free
> community I'm member of).

Well, good luck on that.

- Toralf

>
> Valeri
>
>> - Toralf
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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Tue, August 19, 2014 9:08 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
> On 19/08/14 15:15, John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>> I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in
>>> some
>>> jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment
>>> through
>>> litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous
>>> torts to
>>> impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.
>>> Those
>>> sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.
>> It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list
>> owners.  If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to
>> using pencil and paper.
> It should be pretty clear in this case that the "intended recepient" is
> the mailing list and consequently everyone subscribed to it. So what is
> there to make all this noise about?

Wrong. Legally. It is sender and sender alone who knows one's own intent.

>
> Furthermore, the information is added by the SMTP server (not the MUA),
> so it can't be removed just like that, and due to firewall policies etc.
> it's not very easy to send the messages via a different one. And trying
> to get this feature removed from the service would be fighting windmills.

If you agree it is nonsense, start using free e-mail (gmail, hotmail,
yahoo mail to name some, even though I may not agree with privacy policies
of at leas some of them).

>
> I should imagine that many corporate users face similar issues, so
> "restricting by policy" like you suggest would mean excluding all of
> them from the list(s). Is that what you want?

I was expecting the list owner to kick one or both of us two and ban from
the list forever. For creating unnecessary noise on the list. Would that
happen, I will have to subscribe my different e-mail address (on another
server I maintain as well). You (if you too will be banned from the list),
hopefully, will start using free (as opposed to "slave"? - OK, disclaimer:
just kidding, no legal catch on me here -;) e-mail address.

As far as fighting windmills is concerned: I'm fighting against one of
them being brought into my backyard (OK, not _my_, but the one of free
community I'm member of).

Valeri

>
> - Toralf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 08:15 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
> > 
> > I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in some
> > jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment 
> > through
> > litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous torts to
> > impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.  Those
> > sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.
> 
> It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list
> owners.  If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to
> using pencil and paper.

Using pencil, or quill pen, and paper is still no guarantee of
competence !


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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Toralf Lund
On 19/08/14 15:15, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in some
>> jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment through
>> litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous torts to
>> impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.  Those
>> sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.
> It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list
> owners.  If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to
> using pencil and paper.
It should be pretty clear in this case that the "intended recepient" is 
the mailing list and consequently everyone subscribed to it. So what is 
there to make all this noise about?

Furthermore, the information is added by the SMTP server (not the MUA), 
so it can't be removed just like that, and due to firewall policies etc. 
it's not very easy to send the messages via a different one. And trying 
to get this feature removed from the service would be fighting windmills.

I should imagine that many corporate users face similar issues, so 
"restricting by policy" like you suggest would mean excluding all of 
them from the list(s). Is that what you want?

- Toralf
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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Toralf Lund
On 19/08/14 14:57, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2014-08-18, Toralf Lund  wrote:
>> On 17/08/14 20:04, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>>> On 2014-08-17, Toralf Lund  wrote:
 Hi,

 After some recent upgrade or the other, the browser plugin for java no 
 longer works in my CentOS 6 x86_64 setup - using Firefox. Applets won't 
 load, and no java plugin is mentioned in "about:plugins". The "openjdk" 
 Java packages as well as icetea-web are installed, though, and everything 
 worked just fine a few weeks ago.

 Has anyone else seen this? Any idea what may be wrong and/or how to 
 diagnose the problem? Should I expect error messages anywhere if the 
 plugin just won't load (can't see anything in the browser console)?

 Note that when I talk about upgrades, I mean that I generally install all 
 "notified" system updates.

 - Toralf

>>> Does the file /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist, and does
>>> it link (indirectly) to /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so? You can check using
>>> the following command:
>>>
>>> readlink -e /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
>> I forgot to tell, I checked all "obvious" things like that. And yes, the
>> file points where it should.
>>
>> - Toralf
>>
> All I can think of is to run 'rpm -V' on the packages which own the
> above files, and also look for clues in ~/.xsession-errors and
> /var/log/messages upon starting firefox. I'm sure if those suggestions
> are obvious. :-)
Well, I guess the "obvious" was mainly verifying that the file was 
actually there :-)

The log files you mention didn't offer a clue about what was going on, 
but another file did - pluginreg.dat in the profile directory. It 
actually had

[INVALID]
/usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so:$
1385126043000:$

I then remove the file and restarted, and now everything is back on 
track :-)

I now remember doing this for other plugins in the past, but I'd quite 
forgotten that there even was such a file until I was reminded by a web 
search...

Another question is why the plugin was considered "invalid" in the first 
place, of course. Maybe I'll never find out...

- Toralf


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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Tue, August 19, 2014 6:59 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
> On 18/08/14 15:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Mon, August 18, 2014 5:50 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>
>>> This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain
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>>> any
>>> attachment immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you must
>>> not
>>> use, disclose, distribute, forward, copy, print or rely on this e-mail
>>> in
>>> any way except as permitted by the author.
>> I'm sorry if that offends anyone, the the BS nature of e-mail footers
>> like
>> this one always offends my intelligence.
> Well, maybe I get slightly offended by the fact that you direct this
> comment at me and/or the list. As if I had anything to do with it being
> added...

It is your email that has that footer. If you didn't know your e-mail has
that footer, you have been told. If you didn't know an idiocy of your
e-mail footer offends other people, now you should know it too. If you
disagree with the fact that part your e-mail offends people the least you
can do is to stop using that server/service.

If I missed something or made any mistake, I'm sure others will
add/correct me.

Valeri

>
> - T
>
>
>>   As a recipient of e-mail I didn't
>> give my consent to be obliged to anything. whatever you sent me was at
>> your sole discretion. You want any obligations from the recipient of
>> your
>> message, you should contact the recipient first and get him agree to be
>> obliged to anything you request.
>>
>> Who is the idiot lawyer who wrote it? He shouldn't even have layer
>> degree
>> for incompetence! Even I, not lawyer, do understand that you can not
>> make
>> the person obliged to do or not do anything by unilaterally doing
>> something (sending that person e-mail with idiotic footer).
>>
>> Valeri
>>
>> 
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>> University of Chicago
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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:12:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
> 
> I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in some
> jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment through
> litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous torts to
> impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.  Those
> sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.

It's all noise and such nonsense should be restricted by policy by list
owners.  If people can't figure out email by now they need to go back to
using pencil and paper.





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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread James B. Byrne

On Mon, August 18, 2014 09:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Mon, August 18, 2014 5:50 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
>
>>
>> This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain
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>> intended recipient or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail,
>> please notify the author by return e-mail and delete this message and any
>> attachment immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you must not
>> use, disclose, distribute, forward, copy, print or rely on this e-mail in
>> any way except as permitted by the author.
>
> I'm sorry if that offends anyone, the the BS nature of e-mail footers like
> this one always offends my intelligence. As a recipient of e-mail I didn't
> give my consent to be obliged to anything. whatever you sent me was at
> your sole discretion. You want any obligations from the recipient of your
> message, you should contact the recipient first and get him agree to be
> obliged to anything you request.
>
> Who is the idiot lawyer who wrote it? He shouldn't even have layer degree
> for incompetence! Even I, not lawyer, do understand that you can not make
> the person obliged to do or not do anything by unilaterally doing
> something (sending that person e-mail with idiotic footer).
>

You mean like forcing someone to agree to the terms of a license through the
act opening the package that contains the text of said license?  You would be
amazed as what corporate interests have twisted the courts into doing for them
through sponsored legislation (DMCA for example).

I agree about the BS part but that does not make it unenforceable BS in some
jurisdictions.  And then there is always the threat of impoverishment through
litigation.  A big enough complainant can simply litigate frivolous torts to
impose an economic penalty on its victim regardless of the outcome.  Those
sorts of disclaimers simple provide a pretext.

I just delete messages with such things; unread whenever I notice them in
time, otherwise ignoring the contents if I do not.

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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2014-08-18, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> On 17/08/14 20:04, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2014-08-17, Toralf Lund  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> After some recent upgrade or the other, the browser plugin for java no 
>>> longer works in my CentOS 6 x86_64 setup - using Firefox. Applets won't 
>>> load, and no java plugin is mentioned in "about:plugins". The "openjdk" 
>>> Java packages as well as icetea-web are installed, though, and everything 
>>> worked just fine a few weeks ago.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this? Any idea what may be wrong and/or how to 
>>> diagnose the problem? Should I expect error messages anywhere if the plugin 
>>> just won't load (can't see anything in the browser console)?
>>>
>>> Note that when I talk about upgrades, I mean that I generally install all 
>>> "notified" system updates.
>>>
>>> - Toralf
>>>
>> Does the file /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist, and does
>> it link (indirectly) to /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so? You can check using
>> the following command:
>>
>>  readlink -e /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
> I forgot to tell, I checked all "obvious" things like that. And yes, the 
> file points where it should.
>
> - Toralf
>

All I can think of is to run 'rpm -V' on the packages which own the
above files, and also look for clues in ~/.xsession-errors and
/var/log/messages upon starting firefox. I'm sure if those suggestions
are obvious. :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-19 Thread Toralf Lund
On 18/08/14 15:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Mon, August 18, 2014 5:50 am, Toralf Lund wrote:
>
>> This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain
>> proprietary information which is confidential and may be legally
>> privileged. It is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the
>> intended recipient or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail,
>> please notify the author by return e-mail and delete this message and any
>> attachment immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you must not
>> use, disclose, distribute, forward, copy, print or rely on this e-mail in
>> any way except as permitted by the author.
> I'm sorry if that offends anyone, the the BS nature of e-mail footers like
> this one always offends my intelligence.
Well, maybe I get slightly offended by the fact that you direct this 
comment at me and/or the list. As if I had anything to do with it being 
added...

- T


>   As a recipient of e-mail I didn't
> give my consent to be obliged to anything. whatever you sent me was at
> your sole discretion. You want any obligations from the recipient of your
> message, you should contact the recipient first and get him agree to be
> obliged to anything you request.
>
> Who is the idiot lawyer who wrote it? He shouldn't even have layer degree
> for incompetence! Even I, not lawyer, do understand that you can not make
> the person obliged to do or not do anything by unilaterally doing
> something (sending that person e-mail with idiotic footer).
>
> Valeri
>
> 
> Valeri Galtsev
> Sr System Administrator
> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
> University of Chicago
> Phone: 773-702-4247
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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-18 Thread KevinO
On 08/18/2014 06:05 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry if that offends anyone, the the BS nature of e-mail footers like
> this one always offends my intelligence. As a recipient of e-mail I didn't
> give my consent to be obliged to anything. whatever you sent me was at
> your sole discretion. You want any obligations from the recipient of your
> message, you should contact the recipient first and get him agree to be
> obliged to anything you request.
> 
> Who is the idiot lawyer who wrote it? He shouldn't even have layer degree
> for incompetence! Even I, not lawyer, do understand that you can not make
> the person obliged to do or not do anything by unilaterally doing
> something (sending that person e-mail with idiotic footer).
> 

+1

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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Mon, August 18, 2014 5:50 am, Toralf Lund wrote:

>
> This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain
> proprietary information which is confidential and may be legally
> privileged. It is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the
> intended recipient or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail,
> please notify the author by return e-mail and delete this message and any
> attachment immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you must not
> use, disclose, distribute, forward, copy, print or rely on this e-mail in
> any way except as permitted by the author.

I'm sorry if that offends anyone, the the BS nature of e-mail footers like
this one always offends my intelligence. As a recipient of e-mail I didn't
give my consent to be obliged to anything. whatever you sent me was at
your sole discretion. You want any obligations from the recipient of your
message, you should contact the recipient first and get him agree to be
obliged to anything you request.

Who is the idiot lawyer who wrote it? He shouldn't even have layer degree
for incompetence! Even I, not lawyer, do understand that you can not make
the person obliged to do or not do anything by unilaterally doing
something (sending that person e-mail with idiotic footer).

Valeri


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University of Chicago
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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-18 Thread Toralf Lund
On 17/08/14 20:04, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2014-08-17, Toralf Lund  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After some recent upgrade or the other, the browser plugin for java no 
>> longer works in my CentOS 6 x86_64 setup - using Firefox. Applets won't 
>> load, and no java plugin is mentioned in "about:plugins". The "openjdk" Java 
>> packages as well as icetea-web are installed, though, and everything worked 
>> just fine a few weeks ago.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this? Any idea what may be wrong and/or how to diagnose 
>> the problem? Should I expect error messages anywhere if the plugin just 
>> won't load (can't see anything in the browser console)?
>>
>> Note that when I talk about upgrades, I mean that I generally install all 
>> "notified" system updates.
>>
>> - Toralf
>>
> Does the file /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist, and does
> it link (indirectly) to /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so? You can check using
> the following command:
>
>   readlink -e /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
I forgot to tell, I checked all "obvious" things like that. And yes, the 
file points where it should.

- Toralf


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Re: [CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2014-08-17, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After some recent upgrade or the other, the browser plugin for java no longer 
> works in my CentOS 6 x86_64 setup - using Firefox. Applets won't load, and no 
> java plugin is mentioned in "about:plugins". The "openjdk" Java packages as 
> well as icetea-web are installed, though, and everything worked just fine a 
> few weeks ago.
>
> Has anyone else seen this? Any idea what may be wrong and/or how to diagnose 
> the problem? Should I expect error messages anywhere if the plugin just won't 
> load (can't see anything in the browser console)?
>
> Note that when I talk about upgrades, I mean that I generally install all 
> "notified" system updates.
>
> - Toralf
>

Does the file /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist, and does
it link (indirectly) to /usr/lib64/IcedTeaPlugin.so? You can check using
the following command:

readlink -e /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so

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[CentOS] Java plugin (icedtea-web) does not load

2014-08-17 Thread Toralf Lund
Hi,

After some recent upgrade or the other, the browser plugin for java no longer 
works in my CentOS 6 x86_64 setup - using Firefox. Applets won't load, and no 
java plugin is mentioned in "about:plugins". The "openjdk" Java packages as 
well as icetea-web are installed, though, and everything worked just fine a few 
weeks ago.

Has anyone else seen this? Any idea what may be wrong and/or how to diagnose 
the problem? Should I expect error messages anywhere if the plugin just won't 
load (can't see anything in the browser console)?

Note that when I talk about upgrades, I mean that I generally install all 
"notified" system updates.

- Toralf

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