Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 17:35 +0100, Always Learning wrote: Hi Александр (Aleksandr, Alexander), Apologies to all. That should have gone privately off-list. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Je suis Charlie. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On 4/2/2015 5:11 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? I have used Avast, AVG, Avira, and Comodo. Currently Comodo (firewall and antivirus) is on all of my systems. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 10:17 +0300, Александр Кириллов wrote: Paul, world's a big place. We just see many things differently. The West pretends the rules invented by the West are universal. They are not. Hi Александр (Aleksandr, Alexander), Agreed. The West is far from perfect and has a terrible history of supporting corrupt and brutal regimes as well as subverting some democratically elected governments that were not pro-USA. Any intelligent service would love to get internal access to as many computers as possible. Kasperski (from the largest country in the world) is a potential weakness. So too are the USA anti-virus Windoze packages which ignore penetrations by Uncle Sam (special 'virus' signatures accepted). Conversely non-Windoze machines running Linux, BSDs etc. are inherently more safe. It is good that many people from different countries, different religions, different customs and different daylight hours can peacefully unite in their collective use and enjoyment of Centos. Je ne suis pas Charlie. Pourquoi ? Did those people, the attackers and their victims, really need to die ? We have only 1 life. Best regards, Paul. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Fri, April 3, 2015 8:29 am, James B. Byrne wrote: On Thu, April 2, 2015 17:11, J Martin Rushton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? Thanks, We (Harte Lyne Limited) formerly used F-Prot out of Iceland for the remaining MS based desktops. We are presently switching to ClamAV for Windows (http://www.clamav.net/download.html). Norton is better than nothing; but nowhere near adequate. The rest of the AV field I have no basis for evaluating. MicroSoft's SE has sort of dropped out of the AV race. See: http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus I for one would never trust MS as far as AV software is concerned: after they first declared their system is not safe to run without 3rd party software (antivirus). All that said about AV options, I can't hold myself from mentioning: The whole antivirus idea is fundamentally flawed. It is based on the attempt to enumerate bad. You can not enumerate bad. You can enumerate good, and prohibit everything else. Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Thu, April 2, 2015 17:11, J Martin Rushton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? Thanks, We (Harte Lyne Limited) formerly used F-Prot out of Iceland for the remaining MS based desktops. We are presently switching to ClamAV for Windows (http://www.clamav.net/download.html). Norton is better than nothing; but nowhere near adequate. The rest of the AV field I have no basis for evaluating. MicroSoft's SE has sort of dropped out of the AV race. See: http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:11 pm, J Martin Rushton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? For privately owned machine I would recommend free.avg.com - one free installation per household is permitted by license. I only am testing (and would rather welcome comments): immunet 3 (based on clamav which I use for long time on Unix mail servers), I have it installed on a few machine that unlikely ever will see any visus, hence I do not have sufficient battle ground experience with immunet 3. Valeri Thanks, MArtin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVHbCMAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl4I8P/AsvH+cyGcG9PDtL8I091WJc jaAhT8Z77G8LBTNaCUi1NXaR3zYsxZ1LltS8MyyqpA+TZ5TkwGRI5V0g2h5owrXv vmFNHW4DQcnB5D4s5+B50lnjyIWgtLG0BKUwCgLik++U11umHd5sCTqXTaHzlyP8 Ndz2RAVEm9A8T3My7fKeVF+/c2pt6rKaRoifeTiH+IUnmvuFHPHuQEpLuOx0qKLH BCHyg7ZJcpwQEocYMhZu7JkZ/zg5/eCb+0HIq5qOCkeRj64ax0QOMzlvcScBRQDp tBzXIAXnFGMNmgE8tvD9Xh2Gi/OKx/bbqRdo8mMzUGUlWSErSt2UMPkpN3Vm3S2C wQhSqMoNnxWCypofazmIXH+TKn1/ipUhZXF3GcZsBYDfIb95kvdBrJm//QioI8Fy BFGc5Cj9DjXNxIbCfvQuyrG1RDdwHKjt/AMmoB0RXpSwhxRfS2749gyrkGXRUSSd IFRpX8Ds0quxx8D9YY96FYX4VbPFhFKIm64OigjLOenedek4A0TpUg7tF5HpyDA7 SXl/l9wFbqAOIKR+VYHIix9UPqxUkU/6fio1D/RhD+8gulY9Tj4Bx5vjpVkJm4wY +Dj0VZ6LyhhkkOTypvENrY2imyxJ+MQ/xKiBQCcvGJIkNcxKr3Xd9D6cFkkkZWR7 bAaC26I/cC4witLZSC2k =1XHp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:27 pm, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, April 2, 2015 4:11 pm, J Martin Rushton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? For privately owned machine I would recommend free.avg.com - one free installation per household is permitted by license. I only am testing (and would rather welcome comments): immunet 3 (based on clamav which I use for long time on Unix mail servers), I have it installed on a few machine that unlikely ever will see any visus, hence I do not have sufficient battle ground experience with immunet 3. One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). Valeri Valeri Thanks, MArtin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVHbCMAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl4I8P/AsvH+cyGcG9PDtL8I091WJc jaAhT8Z77G8LBTNaCUi1NXaR3zYsxZ1LltS8MyyqpA+TZ5TkwGRI5V0g2h5owrXv vmFNHW4DQcnB5D4s5+B50lnjyIWgtLG0BKUwCgLik++U11umHd5sCTqXTaHzlyP8 Ndz2RAVEm9A8T3My7fKeVF+/c2pt6rKaRoifeTiH+IUnmvuFHPHuQEpLuOx0qKLH BCHyg7ZJcpwQEocYMhZu7JkZ/zg5/eCb+0HIq5qOCkeRj64ax0QOMzlvcScBRQDp tBzXIAXnFGMNmgE8tvD9Xh2Gi/OKx/bbqRdo8mMzUGUlWSErSt2UMPkpN3Vm3S2C wQhSqMoNnxWCypofazmIXH+TKn1/ipUhZXF3GcZsBYDfIb95kvdBrJm//QioI8Fy BFGc5Cj9DjXNxIbCfvQuyrG1RDdwHKjt/AMmoB0RXpSwhxRfS2749gyrkGXRUSSd IFRpX8Ds0quxx8D9YY96FYX4VbPFhFKIm64OigjLOenedek4A0TpUg7tF5HpyDA7 SXl/l9wFbqAOIKR+VYHIix9UPqxUkU/6fio1D/RhD+8gulY9Tj4Bx5vjpVkJm4wY +Dj0VZ6LyhhkkOTypvENrY2imyxJ+MQ/xKiBQCcvGJIkNcxKr3Xd9D6cFkkkZWR7 bAaC26I/cC4witLZSC2k =1XHp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? Thanks, MArtin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVHbCMAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl4I8P/AsvH+cyGcG9PDtL8I091WJc jaAhT8Z77G8LBTNaCUi1NXaR3zYsxZ1LltS8MyyqpA+TZ5TkwGRI5V0g2h5owrXv vmFNHW4DQcnB5D4s5+B50lnjyIWgtLG0BKUwCgLik++U11umHd5sCTqXTaHzlyP8 Ndz2RAVEm9A8T3My7fKeVF+/c2pt6rKaRoifeTiH+IUnmvuFHPHuQEpLuOx0qKLH BCHyg7ZJcpwQEocYMhZu7JkZ/zg5/eCb+0HIq5qOCkeRj64ax0QOMzlvcScBRQDp tBzXIAXnFGMNmgE8tvD9Xh2Gi/OKx/bbqRdo8mMzUGUlWSErSt2UMPkpN3Vm3S2C wQhSqMoNnxWCypofazmIXH+TKn1/ipUhZXF3GcZsBYDfIb95kvdBrJm//QioI8Fy BFGc5Cj9DjXNxIbCfvQuyrG1RDdwHKjt/AMmoB0RXpSwhxRfS2749gyrkGXRUSSd IFRpX8Ds0quxx8D9YY96FYX4VbPFhFKIm64OigjLOenedek4A0TpUg7tF5HpyDA7 SXl/l9wFbqAOIKR+VYHIix9UPqxUkU/6fio1D/RhD+8gulY9Tj4Bx5vjpVkJm4wY +Dj0VZ6LyhhkkOTypvENrY2imyxJ+MQ/xKiBQCcvGJIkNcxKr3Xd9D6cFkkkZWR7 bAaC26I/cC4witLZSC2k =1XHp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
J Martin Rushton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? Thanks, I think I've seen Avast mentioned by some trustworthy friends on a techie mailing list I'm on. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 00:57 +0300, Александр Кириллов wrote: One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland? Isn't it the FSB these days ? Anyone ever in an intelligence service never ever completely retires. They do tasks when asked and voluntarily pass information to their organisation. Intelligence services do things most people would never ever imagine - its their job. So Kasperski is definitely suspect software despite UK bank Barclays giving it freely to their Windoze customers. With Putin rearming and expanding military forces for about the last 10 years, authorising probing flights by military aircraft, incursions by submarines, invasion of Ukraine, shooting-down the civilian flight above Ukraine, vetoing UN intervention in Syria because of the Russian naval base in Syria ... Don't forget Putin was the 'resident' Russian spy in Germany and a senior officer in the Russian spies, who has many links to the Russian mafia especially to the Russian mafia in Cyprus and more recently in southern Spain. Perhaps those in the west have better access to information ? To avoid upsetting Centos bosses please send any responses off-list. Thank you. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Je suis Charlie. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
Well them plus CIA, NSA, Barney the Dinosaur and Teletubbies. Brian Bernard On Apr 2, 2015 5:58 PM, Александр Кириллов nevis...@infoline.su wrote: One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
On 04/02/15 17:35, Brian Bernard wrote: Well them plus CIA, NSA, Barney the Dinosaur and Teletubbies. Brian Bernard On Apr 2, 2015 5:58 PM, Александр Кириллов nevis...@infoline.su wrote: One thing I forgot to mention: I also always recommend AGAINST using kasperski. Kasperski is KGB guy (*cough* *cough* retired. You know in that service retirement is only feet first dead, so you do your math). Is KGB rant still in vogue in your new homeland? I dislike KGB, NSA, CIA, and all other similar services and dirty trick divisions alike. Whichever country they work for. Always did. Never considered myself any sort of fighter against them. But I do advise my users to stay away from the ones I personally am certain about (kasperski antivirus in this case). And I do assume everyone who listens to my advise uses one's own brain to either take an advise or not. And come to ones own conclusion about either kasperski (in this case) or about me, - as you, Alexandr, did. Either is fine by me. Sorry, Alexandr, it didn't mean to sound personal. And I know Russians often take anything said about anything else Russia related personally. But I do feel obliged to warn people whenever appropriate. Even taking chance stepping on other people toes (good people as well which I'm sure you are) if the last may be to sensitive about the subject. My apology I'm answering somebody's else message, yours somehow didn't show up in my e-mail, but I'm sure there is no harm in that. Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows
http://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/free.html -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: J Martin Rushton martinrushto...@btinternet.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Thursday, 2 April, 2015 22:11:40 Subject: [CentOS] OT: Recommended anti-virus for Windows -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to mention the opposition here, but I have a family member's laptop to protect, and I'm not allowed to upgrade it to Linux. What's the current best recommendation? Thanks, MArtin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVHbCMAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl4I8P/AsvH+cyGcG9PDtL8I091WJc jaAhT8Z77G8LBTNaCUi1NXaR3zYsxZ1LltS8MyyqpA+TZ5TkwGRI5V0g2h5owrXv vmFNHW4DQcnB5D4s5+B50lnjyIWgtLG0BKUwCgLik++U11umHd5sCTqXTaHzlyP8 Ndz2RAVEm9A8T3My7fKeVF+/c2pt6rKaRoifeTiH+IUnmvuFHPHuQEpLuOx0qKLH BCHyg7ZJcpwQEocYMhZu7JkZ/zg5/eCb+0HIq5qOCkeRj64ax0QOMzlvcScBRQDp tBzXIAXnFGMNmgE8tvD9Xh2Gi/OKx/bbqRdo8mMzUGUlWSErSt2UMPkpN3Vm3S2C wQhSqMoNnxWCypofazmIXH+TKn1/ipUhZXF3GcZsBYDfIb95kvdBrJm//QioI8Fy BFGc5Cj9DjXNxIbCfvQuyrG1RDdwHKjt/AMmoB0RXpSwhxRfS2749gyrkGXRUSSd IFRpX8Ds0quxx8D9YY96FYX4VbPFhFKIm64OigjLOenedek4A0TpUg7tF5HpyDA7 SXl/l9wFbqAOIKR+VYHIix9UPqxUkU/6fio1D/RhD+8gulY9Tj4Bx5vjpVkJm4wY +Dj0VZ6LyhhkkOTypvENrY2imyxJ+MQ/xKiBQCcvGJIkNcxKr3Xd9D6cFkkkZWR7 bAaC26I/cC4witLZSC2k =1XHp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
