Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
hello, over the past year, I bought a lot of laptops and I insist on running Centos on all of them. * the best is Dell dell-vostro3450, wich is 95 % compatible. The other 5% being some fn function keys but I think it's not for sale any more. * At the moment I use an Acer Aspire E1-571. That is 97 % compatible, because most fn keys work. And the Broadcom wireless card can easily be replaced. * the worst are Asus X55-A and Dell Vostro 3460 that have Atheros network cards. * I never tried Ati Radeon on Centos because of bad experience on Opensuse. But maybe it works Nvidia will sometimes require extra software for use with external monitor or beamer. So I agree on you with the intel graphics. * The thing is, if you spend some 600 Euro's, you more often than not end up with in the best case some Broadcom cards that can be made to work given some effort. In worst case with Atheros cards that require some magic to make them work. * imho if you buy a laptop that has Intel HD graphics, Intel network card and Intel wireless card, it will work out of the Centos box. but those are too expensive for me. Greetings, J. Op 16-08-13 18:06, carlopmart schreef: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/17/2013 08:40 PM, Johan Vermeulen wrote: hello, over the past year, I bought a lot of laptops and I insist on running Centos on all of them. snip /snip * the worst are Asus X55-A and Dell Vostro 3460 that have Atheros network cards. * I never tried Ati Radeon on Centos because of bad experience on Opensuse. But maybe it works Nvidia will sometimes require extra software for use with external monitor or beamer. So I agree on you with the intel graphics. * The thing is, if you spend some 600 Euro's, you more often than not end up with in the best case some Broadcom cards that can be made to work given some effort. In worst case with Atheros cards that require some magic to make them work. * imho if you buy a laptop that has Intel HD graphics, Intel network card and Intel wireless card, it will work out of the Centos box. but those are too expensive for me. Greetings, J. Op 16-08-13 18:06, carlopmart schreef: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. I purchased (20 months ago) and use an ASUS G73S - this has an Core i7, I loaded it with 16GB of RAM, and added a 64GB SSD to the already installed 500GB HDD. It has a great screen, blueray DVD writer and a high end Nvidia graphics card. It is running CentOS 6.4 and with some help from elrepo the keyboard backlight works along with most of the function keys. Network both wired and wireless worked out of the box. It boots from SSD in less than 30 seconds - all in all it has been a great machine. The only weakness has been the touchpad, and this has been an issue with the machine construction and impacts all OS's. If I am doing lots of work I use a hardware rodent and disable the touchpad (function key for this does not work yet). I have used ASUS MB for years and like them alot, this laptop is the first ASUS purchase for me, but I would buy it again. HTH Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
I have Asus U32U with 8GBs of RAM and 320GBs of HD and everything works fine (also the HDMI out) except some keys like volume up/down but I think it's just a issue about config. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.comwrote: On 08/17/2013 08:40 PM, Johan Vermeulen wrote: hello, over the past year, I bought a lot of laptops and I insist on running Centos on all of them. snip /snip * the worst are Asus X55-A and Dell Vostro 3460 that have Atheros network cards. * I never tried Ati Radeon on Centos because of bad experience on Opensuse. But maybe it works Nvidia will sometimes require extra software for use with external monitor or beamer. So I agree on you with the intel graphics. * The thing is, if you spend some 600 Euro's, you more often than not end up with in the best case some Broadcom cards that can be made to work given some effort. In worst case with Atheros cards that require some magic to make them work. * imho if you buy a laptop that has Intel HD graphics, Intel network card and Intel wireless card, it will work out of the Centos box. but those are too expensive for me. Greetings, J. Op 16-08-13 18:06, carlopmart schreef: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. I purchased (20 months ago) and use an ASUS G73S - this has an Core i7, I loaded it with 16GB of RAM, and added a 64GB SSD to the already installed 500GB HDD. It has a great screen, blueray DVD writer and a high end Nvidia graphics card. It is running CentOS 6.4 and with some help from elrepo the keyboard backlight works along with most of the function keys. Network both wired and wireless worked out of the box. It boots from SSD in less than 30 seconds - all in all it has been a great machine. The only weakness has been the touchpad, and this has been an issue with the machine construction and impacts all OS's. If I am doing lots of work I use a hardware rodent and disable the touchpad (function key for this does not work yet). I have used ASUS MB for years and like them alot, this laptop is the first ASUS purchase for me, but I would buy it again. HTH Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. __**_ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/**mailman/listinfo/centoshttp://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos __**_ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/**mailman/listinfo/centoshttp://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. (A. Einstein) La mente intuitiva è un dono sacro e la mente razionale è un fedele servo. Noi abbiamo creato una società che onora il servo e ha dimenticato il dono. (A. Einstein) Fabrizio Di Carlo ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
Hey there, CentOS is using what kernel? 2.x?? which was not designed to work with newer hardware but Fedora works fine with it. If you need specific functions like EMAIL WEB etc take a look at the latest stable Fedora and go back one version and test it. I am using Fedora(18) on a very old MSI (5 years or more) and it works nice but not as fast as newer basic desktop corei3. I assume that Fedora will work on basic laptop chipsets. they do have compatibly list: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HCL/Machines/Laptops if you can know what is the chipset on each card like atheros broadcom intel nvidia ati etc you can make sure that the OS will work with it. my desktop has a ATI card so it's suppose to be compatible with Fedora. Did you considered other OS for the machine? Eliezer On 08/16/2013 07:06 PM, carlopmart wrote: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/17/2013 02:03 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Hey there, CentOS is using what kernel? 2.x?? which was not designed to work with newer hardware but Fedora works fine with it. If you need specific functions like EMAIL WEB etc take a look at the latest stable Fedora and go back one version and test it. I am using Fedora(18) on a very old MSI (5 years or more) and it works nice but not as fast as newer basic desktop corei3. I assume that Fedora will work on basic laptop chipsets. they do have compatibly list: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HCL/Machines/Laptops if you can know what is the chipset on each card like atheros broadcom intel nvidia ati etc you can make sure that the OS will work with it. my desktop has a ATI card so it's suppose to be compatible with Fedora. Did you considered other OS for the machine? Eliezer Eliezer, pleasse learn from this article: https://lwn.net/Articles/486304/ Then you should learn about ElRepo (www.elrepo.org) kernel modules that provide drivers for anything that was asked by users. Even Broadcom drivers are available for quick recompile and some of us provide already recompiled Broadcom kmod packages. I use CentOS 5.x and 6.x on Laptop for 5 years now and I have everything working. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/16/2013 06:06 PM, carlopmart wrote: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. Design is good, key are fairly large, numerical keyboard properly spaced and almost all keys on traditional places (arrows are little smaller), it has 1Gbit Lan, 2 x USB3 + 2xUSB2, touchpad is large and there are no connectors on the back of the laptop (only on the sides). So you might want to check out Samsung models with same specs (mine has Pentium DualCore, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD). -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/17/2013 04:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. and how many VMs are you running on this machine exactly? 1? On my laptop it works nicely with more then 5 online linux machines. try kvm and then VMWARE and then VIRTUALBOX and see what is the supported OS and I assume XEN is a nice example of how it works on your machine... Eliezer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/17/2013 03:23 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: On 08/17/2013 04:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. and how many VMs are you running on this machine exactly? 1? On my laptop it works nicely with more then 5 online linux machines. try kvm and then VMWARE and then VIRTUALBOX and see what is the supported OS and I assume XEN is a nice example of how it works on your machine... Is there are a reason why KVM, Xen , VMWARE and Virtualbox does not run on CentOS??? * KVM works if CPU supports it. * Xen has it's on project on CentOS 6: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/06/20/welcome-to-the-xen4centos6-project-first-release/ * VMWare says it supports it: https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/detail.php?deviceCategory=softwaretestConfig=17productid=17363releaseid=217supRel=217,deviceCategory=softwareoperatingSystems=27testConfigurations=17osFamily=2page=1display_interval=10sortColumn=PartnersortOrder=AsctestConfig=17 * VirtualBox works I am personally not aware of such problem. Please enlighten me. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 2013-08-16 19:06, carlopmart wrote: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). I currently dual boot a Dell latitude E6430 with Fedora 18 and CentOS 6 without problems. CPU i5 + Intel graphic (1600x900) on the 14. I think it's a very good choice. -- RMA. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/17/2013 05:14 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 08/17/2013 03:23 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: On 08/17/2013 04:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. and how many VMs are you running on this machine exactly? 1? On my laptop it works nicely with more then 5 online linux machines. try kvm and then VMWARE and then VIRTUALBOX and see what is the supported OS and I assume XEN is a nice example of how it works on your machine... Is there are a reason why KVM, Xen , VMWARE and Virtualbox does not run on CentOS??? * KVM works if CPU supports it. * Xen has it's on project on CentOS 6: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/06/20/welcome-to-the-xen4centos6-project-first-release/ * VMWare says it supports it: https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/detail.php?deviceCategory=softwaretestConfig=17productid=17363releaseid=217supRel=217,deviceCategory=softwareoperatingSystems=27testConfigurations=17osFamily=2page=1display_interval=10sortColumn=PartnersortOrder=AsctestConfig=17 * VirtualBox works I am personally not aware of such problem. Please enlighten me. Indeed you are right about it and it should work but not every cpu do the same with the same VM engine. if you do have all of them running I am sure you can tell the client or anyone in the world that it works. Else.. you can just tell him it's supported by the vendor or the product team\list etc in a case He will have some troubles running it. Eliezer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
Hello Ljubomir, On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:14:11 +0200 Ljubomir Ljubojevic cen...@plnet.rs wrote: On 08/17/2013 03:23 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: On 08/17/2013 04:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. and how many VMs are you running on this machine exactly? 1? On my laptop it works nicely with more then 5 online linux machines. try kvm and then VMWARE and then VIRTUALBOX and see what is the supported OS and I assume XEN is a nice example of how it works on your machine... Is there are a reason why KVM, Xen , VMWARE and Virtualbox does not run on CentOS??? * KVM works if CPU supports it. * Xen has it's on project on CentOS 6: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/06/20/welcome-to-the-xen4centos6-project-first-release/ * VMWare says it supports it: https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/detail.php?deviceCategory=softwaretestConfig=17productid=17363releaseid=217supRel=217,deviceCategory=softwareoperatingSystems=27testConfigurations=17osFamily=2page=1display_interval=10sortColumn=PartnersortOrder=AsctestConfig=17 [snip] Just my 2 cents: I work with VMWare Workstation (currently 8.0.6) since ages on CentOS installed on Dell Latitude series laptops (E6530, E6500, D810, for work purposes). Some versions needed a vmware-any-any patch to install, some are fine out of the box. With CentOS6, with the latest VM WS version and the E6530 I only faced a keyboard configuration issue, no solution but workarounds that make things OK. Regards, -- wwp signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
levono thinkpad w530 On Aug 16, 2013 7:07 PM, carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 17/08/13 12:03, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Hey there, CentOS is using what kernel? 2.x?? which was not designed to work with newer hardware but Fedora works fine with it. If you need specific functions like EMAIL WEB etc take a look at the latest stable Fedora and go back one version and test it. I am using Fedora(18) on a very old MSI (5 years or more) and it works nice but not as fast as newer basic desktop corei3. I assume that Fedora will work on basic laptop chipsets. they do have compatibly list: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HCL/Machines/Laptops if you can know what is the chipset on each card like atheros broadcom intel nvidia ati etc you can make sure that the OS will work with it. my desktop has a ATI card so it's suppose to be compatible with Fedora. Did you considered other OS for the machine? Fedora is not an option for me, due to: - It is a bleeding-edge distro (stability is most important) - VMware Workstation doesn't works out of the box - EOL for every release is too short If I can't install CentOS, the other only OS option is Debian. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 17/08/13 14:14, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 08/17/2013 03:23 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: On 08/17/2013 04:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. and how many VMs are you running on this machine exactly? 1? On my laptop it works nicely with more then 5 online linux machines. try kvm and then VMWARE and then VIRTUALBOX and see what is the supported OS and I assume XEN is a nice example of how it works on your machine... Is there are a reason why KVM, Xen , VMWARE and Virtualbox does not run on CentOS??? * KVM works if CPU supports it. * Xen has it's on project on CentOS 6: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/06/20/welcome-to-the-xen4centos6-project-first-release/ * VMWare says it supports it: https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/detail.php?deviceCategory=softwaretestConfig=17productid=17363releaseid=217supRel=217,deviceCategory=softwareoperatingSystems=27testConfigurations=17osFamily=2page=1display_interval=10sortColumn=PartnersortOrder=AsctestConfig=17 * VirtualBox works I am personally not aware of such problem. Please enlighten me. Eliezer, what made is your laptop?? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 17/08/13 15:38, wwp wrote: Hello Ljubomir, On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:14:11 +0200 Ljubomir Ljubojevic cen...@plnet.rs wrote: On 08/17/2013 03:23 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: On 08/17/2013 04:08 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: I recently bought Samsung NP350E5x-A04HR that is all Intel with with traditional Fn function (some manufacturers reverse the Fn action so you get F1-F12 WITH Fn, and play/pause/wireless/etc are used WITHOUT Fn key) with current problem that volume key goes haywire when pressed several times and freezes screen. Only thing that it failed to recognize is Card Reader, it looks like some bus is not recognized. and how many VMs are you running on this machine exactly? 1? On my laptop it works nicely with more then 5 online linux machines. try kvm and then VMWARE and then VIRTUALBOX and see what is the supported OS and I assume XEN is a nice example of how it works on your machine... Is there are a reason why KVM, Xen , VMWARE and Virtualbox does not run on CentOS??? * KVM works if CPU supports it. * Xen has it's on project on CentOS 6: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2013/06/20/welcome-to-the-xen4centos6-project-first-release/ * VMWare says it supports it: https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/detail.php?deviceCategory=softwaretestConfig=17productid=17363releaseid=217supRel=217,deviceCategory=softwareoperatingSystems=27testConfigurations=17osFamily=2page=1display_interval=10sortColumn=PartnersortOrder=AsctestConfig=17 [snip] Just my 2 cents: I work with VMWare Workstation (currently 8.0.6) since ages on CentOS installed on Dell Latitude series laptops (E6530, E6500, D810, for work purposes). Some versions needed a vmware-any-any patch to install, some are fine out of the box. With CentOS6, with the latest VM WS version and the E6530 I only faced a keyboard configuration issue, no solution but workarounds that make things OK. Regards, Uhmm Dell E6530 seems an interesting option ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM, carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/08/13 12:03, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Hey there, CentOS is using what kernel? 2.x?? which was not designed to work with newer hardware but Fedora works fine with it. If you need specific functions like EMAIL WEB etc take a look at the latest stable Fedora and go back one version and test it. I am using Fedora(18) on a very old MSI (5 years or more) and it works nice but not as fast as newer basic desktop corei3. I assume that Fedora will work on basic laptop chipsets. they do have compatibly list: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HCL/Machines/Laptops if you can know what is the chipset on each card like atheros broadcom intel nvidia ati etc you can make sure that the OS will work with it. my desktop has a ATI card so it's suppose to be compatible with Fedora. Did you considered other OS for the machine? Fedora is not an option for me, due to: - It is a bleeding-edge distro (stability is most important) - VMware Workstation doesn't works out of the box - EOL for every release is too short If I can't install CentOS, the other only OS option is Debian. There are a few repos out there with kernel 3.4.x for CentOS 6 including the CentOS Xen-c6 repo (http://dev.centos.org/centos/6/xen-c6/x86_64/RPMS/) and my personal repo at SF (http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuduntu-el/). Kernel 3.4 may give you the support you need, and also keep compatibility with VMWare Workstation. Worth evaluating before giving up. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
On 08/17/2013 06:42 PM, Andrew Wyatt wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM, carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/08/13 12:03, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Hey there, CentOS is using what kernel? 2.x?? which was not designed to work with newer hardware but Fedora works fine with it. If you need specific functions like EMAIL WEB etc take a look at the latest stable Fedora and go back one version and test it. I am using Fedora(18) on a very old MSI (5 years or more) and it works nice but not as fast as newer basic desktop corei3. I assume that Fedora will work on basic laptop chipsets. they do have compatibly list: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HCL/Machines/Laptops if you can know what is the chipset on each card like atheros broadcom intel nvidia ati etc you can make sure that the OS will work with it. my desktop has a ATI card so it's suppose to be compatible with Fedora. Did you considered other OS for the machine? Fedora is not an option for me, due to: - It is a bleeding-edge distro (stability is most important) - VMware Workstation doesn't works out of the box - EOL for every release is too short If I can't install CentOS, the other only OS option is Debian. There are a few repos out there with kernel 3.4.x for CentOS 6 including the CentOS Xen-c6 repo (http://dev.centos.org/centos/6/xen-c6/x86_64/RPMS/) and my personal repo at SF (http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuduntu-el/). Kernel 3.4 may give you the support you need, and also keep compatibility with VMWare Workstation. Worth evaluating before giving up. ElRepo has 3.10 kernels. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
Hello carlopmart, On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:40:42 + carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/08/13 15:38, wwp wrote: [snip] * VMWare says it supports it: https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/detail.php?deviceCategory=softwaretestConfig=17productid=17363releaseid=217supRel=217,deviceCategory=softwareoperatingSystems=27testConfigurations=17osFamily=2page=1display_interval=10sortColumn=PartnersortOrder=AsctestConfig=17 [snip] Just my 2 cents: I work with VMWare Workstation (currently 8.0.6) since ages on CentOS installed on Dell Latitude series laptops (E6530, E6500, D810, for work purposes). Some versions needed a vmware-any-any patch to install, some are fine out of the box. With CentOS6, with the latest VM WS version and the E6530 I only faced a keyboard configuration issue, no solution but workarounds that make things OK. Regards, Uhmm Dell E6530 seems an interesting option ... Yes it's a very interesting laptop if you can afford it. Only very few minor glitches, nothing I couldn't workaround with a bit of experience and configuration steps. I don't know what possible hardware configs are available from Dell for this series (I got that one at work), but here it's powerful enough to drive C++/Qt compilations, a vmware ws to run a VPN in it, plus my personal communications, music edition and photo processing, it also performs nicely playing videos and sound is neat. It may lack USB3, but has external sata. The 15 1920x1080 screen is maybe not perfect (you can see a grid under some conditions, I'm not sure if it's a hardware limitation or a video driver thing, like unperfect refresh rate thing), but it's well color-calibrated and comfortable for any use. I'm happy w/ CentOS6 + some stuff compiled from sources on it. Regards, -- wwp signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: laptop recommendations for CentOS6
Hi all, First of all, sorry for the OT. I need to buy a new laptop for my work. My prerequisites are: - RAM: 6/8 GiB (preferably 8 GiB) - Processor: Core i7 - Disk: up to 500 GiB for SATA, 128 GiB for SSD. - Graphics card: Intel HD (I really hate to use Nvidia or ATI Radeon graphics cards). The most important tasks will be: - Surf the web :) - Read email - And the Most important task: I need to install complete virtual test labs on it using KVM, Xen and VMware suites to run several different types of OSes: RHEL, CentOS, OEL, Solaris-like, BSD, Windows 2012/2008 R2, etc. Any suggestions?? My first choice will be Toshiba or Lenovo laptops and of course it needs to be 100% compatible with CentOS6 (or almost at 95%). Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
