Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Markus Falb

On 23.Nov.2013, at 06:51, Digimer wrote:

 On 23/11/13 00:35, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,
 
 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?
 
 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
 
 
 CentOS is binary compatible to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it shares
 the same minimum requirements.
 
 http://www.redhat.com/resourcelibrary/articles/articles-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-technology-capabilities-and-limits


Plus, what is not mentioned in this link, it needs PAE. The kernel will not 
boot on a machine without PAE capability.

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Markus Falb

On 23.Nov.2013, at 06:51, Cliff Pratt wrote:

 Wow! RH9 was discontinued in 2004! It is likely that a machine from that
 era has the ability to run CentOS 6.4 both in terms of resources and the
 availability of drivers.


We have no second sight, do we? However, I would say that if the CPU can do PAE 
and there is enough RAM it is very likely indeed that CentOS 6.4 will work. 
Driver availability with Linux and especially with distributions like RHEL or 
CentOS is more an issue with *new* hardware.

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Markus Falb

On 23.Nov.2013, at 14:37, Markus Falb wrote:

 
 On 23.Nov.2013, at 06:51, Digimer wrote:
 
 On 23/11/13 00:35, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,
 
 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?
 
 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
 
 
 CentOS is binary compatible to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it shares
 the same minimum requirements.
 
 http://www.redhat.com/resourcelibrary/articles/articles-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-technology-capabilities-and-limits
 
 
 Plus, what is not mentioned in this link, it needs PAE. The kernel will not 
 boot on a machine without PAE capability.

Mark wrote that it is booting, so his machine is fine in this regard.
I should have read more carefully.

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Markus Falb

On 23.Nov.2013, at 08:41, Chris Geldenhuis wrote:

 On 11/23/2013 07:35 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,
 
 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?
 
 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
 Hi Mark,
 
 I recently installed CentOS 6.4 on a 386 system with 512kb of memory. I 
 had to use a kickstart file to achieve this as the text installer does 
 not give you any opportunity to partition the disk to your specification.


Another possible way could be with the live cd, have a look at the following 
links, especially the 2nd
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2013-May/019739.html
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-July/115367.html

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 09:41:49AM +0200, Chris Geldenhuis wrote:
 On 11/23/2013 07:35 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
  Hey Y'all,
 
  Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
  out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?
 
  I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
  I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
  replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
  but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
  do the install.
 Hi Mark,
 
 I recently installed CentOS 6.4 on a 386 system with 512kb of memory. I 
 had to use a kickstart file to achieve this as the text installer does 
 not give you any opportunity to partition the disk to your specification.

I doubt it was an actual 80386. For some years the minimum CPU requirement
has been i686, which was Pentium Pro or greater. More recently the
additional requirement of a CPU with PAE capabilities. I rather doubt
that a processor that ran RH9 (a decade or more ago) would have PAE,
though I have been wrong before (once or twice! :) :) )

Fred

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Jerry Franz
On 11/23/2013 07:40 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
 I doubt it was an actual 80386. For some years the minimum CPU 
 requirement has been i686, which was Pentium Pro or greater. More 
 recently the additional requirement of a CPU with PAE capabilities. I 
 rather doubt that a processor that ran RH9 (a decade or more ago) 
 would have PAE, though I have been wrong before (once or twice! :) :)

I've got a machine that started life running RH7.3, was migrated to 
CentOS3 and is still running it (though hopefully not much longer - I am 
retiring the machine before it decides that a decade plus of service is 
long enough and dies on its own). The motherboard BIOS date is 
05/15/2003 and the dual CPUs are 3Ghz Xeons with hyperthreading and, 
yes, PAE.

That isn't even the oldest running system here. That honor goes to a 
system currently with CentOS5, a motherboard BIOS date of 03/29/2000, 
384 MBytes of memory, running a Celeron 500 MHz CPU with PAE (also 
facing retirement in the near future).

:)

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-23 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 11/23/2013 12:35 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,
 
 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?
 
 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
 

I suppose that I should have asked how much RAM is required to get the
Minimal Install CD to work?

I booted up the Live CD and did the install from there.  The only
problem seemed to be with installing the boot loader.  The Live CD will
not let me boot into rescue mode, and the Minimal Install CD kicks me
out with a message that says there is not enough RAM to install CentOS
on this machine.  That seems strange seeing that it can boot up the Live
CD and do the install from there.  You would think that having the Live
CD system up and running would suck up quite a bit of RAM but still it's
happy to run the install.

I think I could save the install if I could build an new initramfs image
and then install the boot loader along the lines of:
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/CreateNewInitrd

where it says:

Boot in Rescue Mode

Boot from a CentOS installation disc (for example, CD #1 or DVD).

Type linux rescue at the boot: prompt.
Mount all filesystems in read-write mode.

The only CD images I can find for CentOS are the Live CD and Minimal
Install CD neither of which allows me to boot into a rescue session.
Maybe I could use a CentOS 5 boot disk?  Maybe they have a CD image that
will boot into rescue mode.

Anyway, how much RAM does it take to satisfy the Minimal Install CD?

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[CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-22 Thread Mark LaPierre
Hey Y'all,

Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?

I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
do the install.
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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-22 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/22/2013 9:35 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.

its the GUI installer, try (at the grub boot: prompt), /*linux text
*/
then, choose the minimum packages, etc, and get a basic config. the text 
mode installer's disk utilities are ugly, sometimes its easiest to setup 
the disks ahead of time manually, then just tell the text installer to 
use your partitions as-is.

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-22 Thread Cliff Pratt
Wow! RH9 was discontinued in 2004! It is likely that a machine from that
era has the ability to run CentOS 6.4 both in terms of resources and the
availability of drivers.

Cheers,

Cliff


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote:

 Hey Y'all,

 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?

 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-22 Thread Digimer
On 23/11/13 00:35, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,
 
 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?
 
 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
 

CentOS is binary compatible to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it shares
the same minimum requirements.

http://www.redhat.com/resourcelibrary/articles/articles-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-technology-capabilities-and-limits

So assuming a machine that old is 32-bit;

* RAM: 512MB minimum / 1 GB/logical CPU recommended

* Disk: 1GB minimum / 5GB recommended

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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-22 Thread Cliff Pratt
unlikely.. not ...likely...

Cheers,

Cliff


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Cliff Pratt enkiduonthe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wow! RH9 was discontinued in 2004! It is likely that a machine from that
 era has the ability to run CentOS 6.4 both in terms of resources and the
 availability of drivers.

 Cheers,

 Cliff


 On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote:

 Hey Y'all,

 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?

 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
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Re: [CentOS] RAM Requirements

2013-11-22 Thread Chris Geldenhuis
On 11/23/2013 07:35 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Hey Y'all,

 Does anyone know where I can look, please post a URL, where I can find
 out what the minimum system requirements are for CentOS 6.4?

 I've searched the CentOS.org web site for this but I've come up empty.
 I've got an old machine that had RH9 on it.  The HD died so I had to
 replace that.  Now I'm thinking that I want to install CentOS 6.4 on it
 but the minimal install disk says that I don't have enough RAM for it to
 do the install.
Hi Mark,

I recently installed CentOS 6.4 on a 386 system with 512kb of memory. I 
had to use a kickstart file to achieve this as the text installer does 
not give you any opportunity to partition the disk to your specification.

Regards

ChrisG
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