Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Josh Donovan wrote:
 Jason Pyeron wrote:
 
  The mirrors are missing the headers folders which prevents up2date from 
  working.
 
 Use yum. Apt4rpm, Up2date used to work back in the day but that is long ago..

apt4rpm uses the same metadata as yum does. 

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Jason Pyeron wrote:
 No, as it seemd that up2date support was pulled by the previous reply.

Don't believe everyone, please file a bug report :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Josh Donovan
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Don't believe everyone, please file a bug report :)

Read the following long post on yum vs up2date
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2006-September/027265.html
Don't quote me on this but I believe the reason apt4rpm was pulled
from upstream was it had multilib issues.

Filing a bug is by all means welcome but will that mean the
bastardized version of up2date that CentOS uses (Johhny's words)
have the functionality of yum and its plugins?

Perhaps we could have a little fun with a 2008 version of
yum vs Up2date vs Apt? Ha Ha Ha...

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Josh Donovan wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Don't believe everyone, please file a bug report :)
 
 Read the following long post on yum vs up2date
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2006-September/027265.html
 Don't quote me on this but I believe the reason apt4rpm was pulled
 from upstream was it had multilib issues.

Upstream never had apt4rpm in the enterprise product.

 Filing a bug is by all means welcome but will that mean the
 bastardized version of up2date that CentOS uses (Johhny's words)
 have the functionality of yum and its plugins?

No. But it will work as before, when the headers/ directory is there.

 Perhaps we could have a little fun with a 2008 version of
 yum vs Up2date vs Apt? Ha Ha Ha...

As said: apt4rpm works on the same metadata yum does, up2date doesn't
and is just there for convenience mode. And as up2date still is in
CentOS 4, it should work. For limited values of work, but ...

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Josh Donovan
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Upstream never had apt4rpm in the enterprise product.

Fedora  RHEL  CentOS

CentOS 4 is based on Fedora Core 3 which at the time used
apt4rpm. Why didn't it make its way to RHEL 4, while yum 
made its way to RHEL 5?

As the OP mentioned learning curve issues, he may be
used to up2date and he can look at the following from upstream.

Q : What are the yum equivalents of former up2date common tasks?
http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_80_11223.shtm

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Josh Donovan wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Upstream never had apt4rpm in the enterprise product.
 
 Fedora  RHEL  CentOS
 
 CentOS 4 is based on Fedora Core 3 which at the time used
 apt4rpm. Why didn't it make its way to RHEL 4, while yum 
 made its way to RHEL 5?

Because FC3 used yum? 

 As the OP mentioned learning curve issues, he may be
 used to up2date and he can look at the following from upstream.
 
 Q : What are the yum equivalents of former up2date common tasks?
 http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_80_11223.shtm

There still is the fact that we are *SHIPPING* up2date and it *DOES NOT*
work at the moment. This has nothing to do with equivalents in yum or
FC3 having apt4rpm or whatnot.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 There still is the fact that we are *SHIPPING* up2date and it *DOES NOT*
 work at the moment. This has nothing to do with equivalents in yum or
 FC3 having apt4rpm or whatnot.

BTW: In the meantime the headers have reappeared in 4.7:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.7]# ls -1 os/i386/headers/|wc -l
1591


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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-22 Thread Josh Donovan
Ralph Angenendt wrote:

 BTW: In the meantime the headers have reappeared in 4.7:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.7]# ls -1 os/i386/headers/|wc -l

From a quick look at http://bugs.centos.org I note neither 
you nor the OP has filed a bug. Isn't the lack of headers 
similar to bug 3018 http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3018

Therefore would there be any need to file a bug if its 
already been filed before? I would agree with Johnny's Hughes
statement You would be much better off using yum for updates on CentOS-4.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-21 Thread Karanbir Singh

Jason Pyeron wrote:

The mirrors are missing the headers folders which prevents up2date from working.



did you file an issue report for this ( http://bugs.centos.org ) ?

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RE: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-21 Thread Jason Pyeron
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 Jason Pyeron wrote:
  The mirrors are missing the headers folders which prevents 
 up2date from working.
  
 
 did you file an issue report for this ( http://bugs.centos.org ) ?

No, as it seemd that up2date support was pulled by the previous reply.


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Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-20 Thread Josh Donovan
Jason Pyeron wrote:

 The mirrors are missing the headers folders which prevents up2date from 
 working.

Use yum. Apt4rpm, Up2date used to work back in the day but that is long ago..

Thanks,
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RE: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-20 Thread Jason Pyeron
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 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?
 
 Jason Pyeron wrote:
 
  The mirrors are missing the headers folders which prevents 
 up2date from working.
 
 Use yum. Apt4rpm, Up2date used to work back in the day but 
 that is long ago..

Learning curve issues.

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[CentOS] Up2date for 4.7?

2008-09-19 Thread Jason Pyeron
The mirrors are missing the headers folders which prevents up2date from working.

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