Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
John a écrit : I do not and did not mean to be offensive to Dag, and I apologize if I was--it just seemed like an issue that would be affecting a lot more people than just me and I wanted to see what others were doing about it. So far I've not heard what that is. I second that. Dag is doing great work, and for desktop users, CentOS wouldn't be the same without RPMForge. However, this update has been botched up. Existing systems can be left in the present state by putting an 'exclude=wxGTK amule vlc audacity' line in /etc/yum.conf. But when installing a new system, 'yum install vlc audacity' does not work. This is a worry for me, as I install desktop systems professionally, and I use both programs on client's desktops (yes, amule too, when the client wants it... :o)). As far as I'm concerned, I worked around it by simply rebuilding wxGTK (2.6), amule, vlc and audacity from SRPM and putting them in my own repo with a higher priority. This took the best part of an afternoon. My suggestion to Dag (with all respect taken): why not create a [rf-testing] repo for the critical stuff, a bit like [kbsingh]? I repeat, since this is important: please do not take offense. Shit happens, I know. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Niki Kovacs wrote: My suggestion to Dag (with all respect taken): why not create a [rf-testing] repo for the critical stuff, a bit like [kbsingh]? I repeat, since this is important: please do not take offense. Shit happens, I know. And if all that could be discussed on rpmforge users mailing list *where* other people from the rpmforge community also read and post, it would have been even greater :) Cheers, Ralph pgpS7TMZUsLwO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Ralph Angenendt a écrit : And if all that could be discussed on rpmforge users mailing list *where* other people from the rpmforge community also read and post, it would have been even greater :) Sorry for that. Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralph Angenendt a écrit : And if all that could be discussed on rpmforge users mailing list *where* other people from the rpmforge community also read and post, it would have been even greater :) Sorry for that. La merde se produit (or, in a more vernacular, merde passe). mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, fred smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:12:12AM +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? yum priority is for giving priority to one repo over another... Totally irrelevant here, the the issues are rpmforge-only: the rf audacity needs GTK 2.6 while new builds of VLC and others (still rf) now need GTK 2.8. Both GTK 2.6 and GTK 2.8 are available in rpmforge. So, you have to choose your own priorities, no software can make the choice for you: - either you upgrade GTK to 2.8, which requires uninstalling audacity (until some time in the probably not so distant future where Dag resolves the issues and manages to build audacity with GTK 2.8); - or you stick to GTK 2.6, which means you have to keep your older versions of VLC and any other package whose newer versions were rebuilt with GTK 2.8. Why is this such a big deal?? If it's really that critical to you, I'm sure Dag could use your help getting that audacity thing to build with GTK 2.8. It's a big deal only in the sense that with a properly configured yum system I cannot update my system without disabling a repository that wants to give me incompatible updates, incompatible with itself. I can certainly disable rpmforge, and as far as I can see that's my only option here unless I want to mess around with audacity. Somehow I was operating under the (apparent) delusion that the repo maintainers would ensure they didn't create situations like this, so that users wouldn't end up unable to update. but if I don't want to do the devel work and especially if I was a user who didn't know how to disable a repo, I'd be stuck here. So I asked if there was any choice other than doing that. I've not heard that other people find it to be an issue, so maybe I'm just overly sensitive, but it seems like a breakage to me. What do I know. I do not and did not mean to be offensive to Dag, and I apologize if I was--it just seemed like an issue that would be affecting a lot more people than just me and I wanted to see what others were doing about it. So far I've not heard what that is. Drop yum and use apt. At least apt will not just drop out but give a workable solution based on the packages you have installed and the possible solutions. In fact I don't care about this breakage that much, because it should not be affecting you. Sadly, you are using yum. Or you might be making yourself useful by trying to build audacity against the new environment (wxGTK) and let me know if you can make it work. It is indeed sad that you cannot use yum anymore simply because there is a dependency issue. In fact, the most important reason for not mixing repositories is because yum dies on it, while other depsolvers give you solutions to make it work. One might wonder why Red Hat choose the worst depsolver from the possibilities that existed at the time. And still hasn't improved the situation. Of course the official word is: a repository should not break My response is: yum should not break :) -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Niki Kovacs wrote: John a écrit : I do not and did not mean to be offensive to Dag, and I apologize if I was--it just seemed like an issue that would be affecting a lot more people than just me and I wanted to see what others were doing about it. So far I've not heard what that is. I second that. Dag is doing great work, and for desktop users, CentOS wouldn't be the same without RPMForge. However, this update has been botched up. Existing systems can be left in the present state by putting an 'exclude=wxGTK amule vlc audacity' line in /etc/yum.conf. But when installing a new system, 'yum install vlc audacity' does not work. This is a worry for me, as I install desktop systems professionally, and I use both programs on client's desktops (yes, amule too, when the client wants it... :o)). As far as I'm concerned, I worked around it by simply rebuilding wxGTK (2.6), amule, vlc and audacity from SRPM and putting them in my own repo with a higher priority. This took the best part of an afternoon. My suggestion to Dag (with all respect taken): why not create a [rf-testing] repo for the critical stuff, a bit like [kbsingh]? Because I have no time for it. It is as simple as that. And I prefer stop doing RPMforge than to spend more of my free time. rpmrepo was going to be RPMforge's successor (ATrpms, RPMforge, CentOS, all-in-one and community-based), but there is no progress there and that's why I am still here. Currently, what I build is what becomes available. Often there is a delay because I want to make the repo as consistent as can be, but if a single package is holding back too many other packages I prefer to break the repo (I am using apt, apt can handle dependency-issues with no problem). If someone want to step up and become a gatekeeper between a testing repository and a real rpmforge repository and shift the packages between, by all means do that and if it works, great. But I won't be doing that work and handle that complexity. I want to reduce the free time I spend maintaining packages I don't even use myself, not increase that time. In this case audacity does not build against wxGTK 2.8.8, at least not on my system and nobody offered any help so far. A compat-wxGTK could be the solution, although compat-packages have a tendency to break even more with other repositories (and sadly Fedora opted NOT to follow Mandriva's lead in sensible package-names for libraries). So that's the official word. PS No waranties implied. No refund :-/ -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:08 PM, fred smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? # Name: RPMforge RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise 5 - dag # URL: http://rpmforge.net/ [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag #baseurl = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/mirrors-rpmforge #mirrorlist = file:///etc/yum.repos.d/mirrors-rpmforge enabled = 1 protect = 0 gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag gpgcheck = 1 priority=10 Since you have protect=0 in there, I'm guessing you are also using the yum-protect plugin - this should not be used if you have the yum-priorities plugin and are using it - they conflict. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Robert wrote: fred smith wrote: So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken echo I have `rpm -qa | grep rf | wc -l` reasons to apologize. *applause* Cheers, Ralph pgpZmFT4w1TWa.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:09 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:59 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps snip snip/ So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? # Name: RPMforge RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise 5 - dag # URL: http://rpmforge.net/ [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag #baseurl = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/mirrors-rpmforge #mirrorlist = file:///etc/yum.repos.d/mirrors-rpmforge enabled = 1 protect = 0 gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag gpgcheck = 1 priority=10 -- JohnStanley Writes: Where protect = 0 in the above needs to be protect = 1 for all centos repos so then yum want pull in Updates from other repos that will break your install ans the centos repos need the highest priority. You may have to experiment with both installed, also however they may be conflicting against each other also. Therefor you may have to remove one. I know yum prioritys set to 1 in CentOSBase.repo will exclude any other repo when running yum update This should help you understand it more, http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities. Also there is the Protect Base yum pluging, http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/ProtectBase. HTH you, JohnStanley ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? yum priority is for giving priority to one repo over another... Totally irrelevant here, the the issues are rpmforge-only: the rf audacity needs GTK 2.6 while new builds of VLC and others (still rf) now need GTK 2.8. Both GTK 2.6 and GTK 2.8 are available in rpmforge. So, you have to choose your own priorities, no software can make the choice for you: - either you upgrade GTK to 2.8, which requires uninstalling audacity (until some time in the probably not so distant future where Dag resolves the issues and manages to build audacity with GTK 2.8); - or you stick to GTK 2.6, which means you have to keep your older versions of VLC and any other package whose newer versions were rebuilt with GTK 2.8. Why is this such a big deal?? If it's really that critical to you, I'm sure Dag could use your help getting that audacity thing to build with GTK 2.8. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
John a écrit : I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? 1 = highest priority == packages never get squashed 99 = lowest priority So basically you're free to choose any value between 1 and 99. The lower the number, the higher the priority. If [base], [updates] and [extras] have a priority of 1 and you only have [rpmforge] as third-party archive, then you're free to choose any value between 2 and 99 to keep your CentOS packages from being replaced. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 01:54:20AM -0400, John wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:09 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:59 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps snip snip/ So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? # Name: RPMforge RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise 5 - dag # URL: http://rpmforge.net/ [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag #baseurl = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/mirrors-rpmforge #mirrorlist = file:///etc/yum.repos.d/mirrors-rpmforge enabled = 1 protect = 0 gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag gpgcheck = 1 priority=10 -- JohnStanley Writes: Where protect = 0 in the above needs to be protect = 1 for all centos repos so then yum want pull in Updates from other repos that will break your install ans the centos repos need the highest priority. You may have to experiment with both installed, also however they may be conflicting against each other also. Therefor you may have to remove one. I know yum prioritys set to 1 in CentOSBase.repo will exclude any other repo when running yum update This should help you understand it more, http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities. Also there is the Protect Base yum pluging, http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/ProtectBase. HTH you, JohnStanley Thanks John for the info. As far as I know I'm NOT using the protect feature/plugin. I purposely set up priorities back when I first installed Centos5 and purposely did NOT set up the protect stuff. I read the documentation on the wiki about it and decided that priorities made a lot more sense. here's the first part of yum output, wherein it says nothing about any protections other than via priority: Loading priorities plugin Loading fastestmirror plugin Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * pidgin: rpm.pidgin.im * rpmforge: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de * base: updates.interworx.info * updates: mirror.trouble-free.net * addons: mirrors.unbornmedia.com * extras: mirror.trouble-free.net Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished 412 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies I've got priorities in CentOS-Base.repo set to 1 except for centosplus and contrib which are 2. pidgin.repo has all three items set to priority of 40, and rpmforge.repo is set to 10. Anybody see anything wrong with that? -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) -- pgpjEL5L4e3Lp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:12:12AM +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? yum priority is for giving priority to one repo over another... Totally irrelevant here, the the issues are rpmforge-only: the rf audacity needs GTK 2.6 while new builds of VLC and others (still rf) now need GTK 2.8. Both GTK 2.6 and GTK 2.8 are available in rpmforge. So, you have to choose your own priorities, no software can make the choice for you: - either you upgrade GTK to 2.8, which requires uninstalling audacity (until some time in the probably not so distant future where Dag resolves the issues and manages to build audacity with GTK 2.8); - or you stick to GTK 2.6, which means you have to keep your older versions of VLC and any other package whose newer versions were rebuilt with GTK 2.8. Why is this such a big deal?? If it's really that critical to you, I'm sure Dag could use your help getting that audacity thing to build with GTK 2.8. It's a big deal only in the sense that with a properly configured yum system I cannot update my system without disabling a repository that wants to give me incompatible updates, incompatible with itself. I can certainly disable rpmforge, and as far as I can see that's my only option here unless I want to mess around with audacity. Somehow I was operating under the (apparent) delusion that the repo maintainers would ensure they didn't create situations like this, so that users wouldn't end up unable to update. but if I don't want to do the devel work and especially if I was a user who didn't know how to disable a repo, I'd be stuck here. So I asked if there was any choice other than doing that. I've not heard that other people find it to be an issue, so maybe I'm just overly sensitive, but it seems like a breakage to me. What do I know. I do not and did not mean to be offensive to Dag, and I apologize if I was--it just seemed like an issue that would be affecting a lot more people than just me and I wanted to see what others were doing about it. So far I've not heard what that is. -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good. - Proverbs 15:3 (niv) - pgpHhDmmXU9PL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:57 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:12:12AM +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? yum priority is for giving priority to one repo over another... Totally irrelevant here, the the issues are rpmforge-only: the rf audacity needs GTK 2.6 while new builds of VLC and others (still rf) now need GTK 2.8. Both GTK 2.6 and GTK 2.8 are available in rpmforge. So, you have to choose your own priorities, no software can make the choice for you: - either you upgrade GTK to 2.8, which requires uninstalling audacity (until some time in the probably not so distant future where Dag resolves the issues and manages to build audacity with GTK 2.8); - or you stick to GTK 2.6, which means you have to keep your older versions of VLC and any other package whose newer versions were rebuilt with GTK 2.8. Why is this such a big deal?? If it's really that critical to you, I'm sure Dag could use your help getting that audacity thing to build with GTK 2.8. It's a big deal only in the sense that with a properly configured yum system I cannot update my system without disabling a repository that wants to give me incompatible updates, incompatible with itself. I can certainly disable rpmforge, and as far as I can see that's my only option here unless I want to mess around with audacity. Somehow I was operating under the (apparent) delusion that the repo maintainers would ensure they didn't create situations like this, so that users wouldn't end up unable to update. but if I don't want to do the devel work and especially if I was a user who didn't know how to disable a repo, I'd be stuck here. So I asked if there was any choice other than doing that. I've not heard that other people find it to be an issue, so maybe I'm just overly sensitive, but it seems like a breakage to me. What do I know. I do not and did not mean to be offensive to Dag, and I apologize if I was--it just seemed like an issue that would be affecting a lot more people than just me and I wanted to see what others were doing about it. So far I've not heard what that is. JohnStanley Writes: Now since you explain it in more detail. You have the option to compile from source and build against gtk-2.8. Or B, yum update gtk then make a rpm -i gtk /opt/ Install and link audacity against the Install in the /opt Directory. Well, that basically sums up your options you have. I'm sure there's other hacks to do this a better way. Yea I can see a new user and this happening to them so I can see where your coming from. I maybe wrong but you may want to check the man yum for setting what package version to install for an rpm like foo_package1.0 and foo_package.1.1. Could be wrong but maybe someone else can comment on that. Don't think that is what you need either?? JohnStanley ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Good Evening. I believe what Dag is saying is that, if you wish to use audacity, you cannot update wxGTK. Conversely, if you update wxGTK, you cannot use audacity. I'm sure he will eventually resolve the issue. In the meantime, how are we supposed to go about to install AMule, VLC and Audacity on a *new* install? No problem to write an 'exclude=' line in /etc/yum.conf on existing systems so updates get currently ignored. IMHO these things should have been put to some testing repo first. I prefer having slightly outdated software rather than mutually excluding updates :o/ Because this is not really a CentOS issue, I think it is best to take it to the rpmforge packagers' mailing list. For example, Fabian recently discussed wxGTK here: http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/packagers/2008-September/000709.html Are there any updates on that? yum still complains about missing dependencies on an installation with aMule and wxGTK. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:27:45PM +0200, Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening. I believe what Dag is saying is that, if you wish to use audacity, you cannot update wxGTK. Conversely, if you update wxGTK, you cannot use audacity. I'm sure he will eventually resolve the issue. In the meantime, how are we supposed to go about to install AMule, VLC and Audacity on a *new* install? No problem to write an 'exclude=' line in /etc/yum.conf on existing systems so updates get currently ignored. IMHO these things should have been put to some testing repo first. I prefer having slightly outdated software rather than mutually excluding updates :o/ Because this is not really a CentOS issue, I think it is best to take it to the rpmforge packagers' mailing list. For example, Fabian recently discussed wxGTK here: http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/packagers/2008-September/000709.html Are there any updates on that? yum still complains about missing dependencies on an installation with aMule and wxGTK. So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. --- Romans 5:8 (niv) -- pgpPVZwvsYkFu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:27:45PM +0200, Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening. I believe what Dag is saying is that, if you wish to use audacity, you cannot update wxGTK. Conversely, if you update wxGTK, you cannot use audacity. I'm sure he will eventually resolve the issue. In the meantime, how are we supposed to go about to install AMule, VLC and Audacity on a *new* install? No problem to write an 'exclude=' line in /etc/yum.conf on existing systems so updates get currently ignored. IMHO these things should have been put to some testing repo first. I prefer having slightly outdated software rather than mutually excluding updates :o/ Because this is not really a CentOS issue, I think it is best to take it to the rpmforge packagers' mailing list. For example, Fabian recently discussed wxGTK here: http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/packagers/2008-September/000709.html Are there any updates on that? yum still complains about missing dependencies on an installation with aMule and wxGTK. So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken echo I have `rpm -qa | grep rf | wc -l` reasons to apologize. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:59 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps snip snip/ So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:19:37PM -0400, John wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fred smith Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:59 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps snip snip/ So what's the proper workaround here? As far as I'm concerned, Dag has broken the update system on our Centos boxes. Is there any other way to allow my system to be updated than to disable using Dag's repo? (not including removing Audacity--which I don't use a LOT, but I do use it.) ### JohnStanley Writes: Sure is, just use yum prioritys so when you do yum update it will exclude DAGS-Repo. Just follow the tutorial on wiki.centos.org. I've had that set up ever since I first added any repositories. I've got it set to a priority of 10, is there a better value to use? # Name: RPMforge RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise 5 - dag # URL: http://rpmforge.net/ [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag #baseurl = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/mirrors-rpmforge #mirrorlist = file:///etc/yum.repos.d/mirrors-rpmforge enabled = 1 protect = 0 gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag gpgcheck = 1 priority=10 -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Hebrews 4:12 (niv) -- pgpSsIZ842U0g.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Akemi Yagi a écrit : I believe what Dag is saying is that, if you wish to use audacity, you cannot update wxGTK. Conversely, if you update wxGTK, you cannot use audacity. I'm sure he will eventually resolve the issue. In the meantime, how are we supposed to go about to install AMule, VLC and Audacity on a *new* install? No problem to write an 'exclude=' line in /etc/yum.conf on existing systems so updates get currently ignored. IMHO these things should have been put to some testing repo first. I prefer having slightly outdated software rather than mutually excluding updates :o/ Speaking of it: any chance the nautilus-sendto dependency on a non-existing libgaim.so.0 will be resolved? This bug must have been around for a year IIRC. It's a pity one must first wget and rpm -ivh --nodeps nautilus-sendto before doing a groupinstall GNOME Desktop Environment. But I guess this is an upstream problem. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi Yagi a écrit : I believe what Dag is saying is that, if you wish to use audacity, you cannot update wxGTK. Conversely, if you update wxGTK, you cannot use audacity. I'm sure he will eventually resolve the issue. In the meantime, how are we supposed to go about to install AMule, VLC and Audacity on a *new* install? No problem to write an 'exclude=' line in /etc/yum.conf on existing systems so updates get currently ignored. IMHO these things should have been put to some testing repo first. I prefer having slightly outdated software rather than mutually excluding updates :o/ Because this is not really a CentOS issue, I think it is best to take it to the rpmforge packagers' mailing list. For example, Fabian recently discussed wxGTK here: http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/packagers/2008-September/000709.html Speaking of it: any chance the nautilus-sendto dependency on a non-existing libgaim.so.0 will be resolved? This bug must have been around for a year IIRC. It's a pity one must first wget and rpm -ivh --nodeps nautilus-sendto before doing a groupinstall GNOME Desktop Environment. But I guess this is an upstream problem. Here is the upstream bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250403 Looks like the fix may be in the next major release at the earliest. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Hi, I have a CentOS 5.2 desktop with the RPMForge repo enabled. I just ran 'yum update', and there seems to be some trouble with the wxGTK apps. A simple 'yum update' gives this error message: --8 -- Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_net-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_qa-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6.2) is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_net-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_xml-2.6.so.0 is needed by package audacity --8 But when I put an exclude line in /etc/yum.conf for wxGTK, the error message becomes: --8 Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_qa-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0(WXU_2.8) is needed by package amule Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc Error: Missing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 is needed by package vlc --8 So it looks like Audacity depends on wxGTK 2.6, whereas Amule and VLC depend on wxGTK 2.8. 1) Where do I report a bug for that? 2) In the meantime, what can I do? Simply exclude vlc, amule, audacity and wxGTK from updates in /etc/yum.conf and wait until the problem is resolved? Cheers, Niki Kovacs ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Niki Kovacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a CentOS 5.2 desktop with the RPMForge repo enabled. I just ran 'yum update', and there seems to be some trouble with the wxGTK apps. A simple 'yum update' gives this error message: So it looks like Audacity depends on wxGTK 2.6, whereas Amule and VLC depend on wxGTK 2.8. 1) Where do I report a bug for that? 2) In the meantime, what can I do? Simply exclude vlc, amule, audacity and wxGTK from updates in /etc/yum.conf and wait until the problem is resolved? Some info here: http://planet.centos.org/ Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
Akemi Yagi a écrit : Some info here: http://planet.centos.org/ Thanks for the info. Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:55:04PM +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote: Akemi Yagi a écrit : Some info here: http://planet.centos.org/ Thanks for the info. Niki but that doesn't say anything about how it is (or will be) resolved... Are we expected to remove Audacity from our systems, or what? (or drop the DAG repostiory) -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. - Jude 1:24,25 (niv) - pgpGn4sudf63Z.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update troubles for wxGTK apps
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, fred smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:55:04PM +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote: Akemi Yagi a écrit : Some info here: http://planet.centos.org/ Thanks for the info. Niki but that doesn't say anything about how it is (or will be) resolved... Are we expected to remove Audacity from our systems, or what? (or drop the DAG repostiory) I believe what Dag is saying is that, if you wish to use audacity, you cannot update wxGTK. Conversely, if you update wxGTK, you cannot use audacity. I'm sure he will eventually resolve the issue. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
