Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-13 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:

>> Did I miss the announcement?  I wasn't expecting 5.4 to be out for 
>> another few weeks
>
> http://twitter.com/CentOS/status/4831596086

It's a sure-hit proposition. I schedule a major downtime to install 
new kernels in all manner of infrastructure servers -- mail, web, nfs, 
vpn, blah, blah -- and then, the VERY NEXT DAY, I see the CentOS 
X.Next announcement telling me that I was about two weeks too soon.

At least there are some things I can count on...  :-)

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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-13 Thread Florin Andrei
MHR wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:53 AM, David Mehler  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
>> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
> 
> Did I miss the announcement?  I wasn't expecting 5.4 to be out for
> another few weeks

http://twitter.com/CentOS/status/4831596086

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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-13 Thread David Mehler
Hi,
Yes, thank you. Please send that script privately. I'll check in to cobbler.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/13/09, Tait Clarridge  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 00:21 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for your reply. I'd probably be doing them in pairs spread out
>> over a long period. I'd be interested in your php kickstart setup
>> script.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>
> You may want to look at cobbler. It has a PXE boot option that can be
> limited by MAC address. This would help in installing a certain
> "profile" to your machine making it easier for you to customize each
> install without having to burn mountains of CDs...
>
> I am playing around with cobbler right now, but I can still send you the
> kickstart script if you would like.
>
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-13 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 00:21 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks for your reply. I'd probably be doing them in pairs spread out
> over a long period. I'd be interested in your php kickstart setup
> script.
> Thanks.
> Dave.

You may want to look at cobbler. It has a PXE boot option that can be
limited by MAC address. This would help in installing a certain
"profile" to your machine making it easier for you to customize each
install without having to burn mountains of CDs...

I am playing around with cobbler right now, but I can still send you the
kickstart script if you would like.




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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-13 Thread Markus Falb
David Mehler wrote:

> Hello,
> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
> not only installs a specific list of apps apps that i want on each
> system, but configures them automatically perhaps via scripts, and
> enables or disables services etc. Basically, i want to drop the CD or
> DVD in a box which will probably not have a monitor anyway, and walk
> away. I then come back or ssh in and everything is already installed,
> any repos are added, configured and ready to go. Is this a core build?
> I'd appreciate any pointers on this.
> Thanks.
> Dave.

My Strategy for those things is:

1.
cobbler ( https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ ) for a minimal Unattended 
Installation. cobblers primary goal is installation over Network but it 
can also generate CD/DVD. cobbler integrates kickstart files into your CD.

2.
puppet ( http://reductivelabs.com/products/puppet/ ) for central 
configuration management.

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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-13 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Dienstag, den 13.10.2009, 02:06 +0200 schrieb David Mehler:
> Hi,
> Thanks for all your replies. I checked out spacewalk and cobbler, both
> of which look like they require a network support infrastructure, at
> least a tftp server. I want to use a CD or DVD. Kickstart sounds like
> the way to go, but i'm looking to have everything self contained, for
> example if i want to install the postfix package, i'll want to remove
> sendmail, set up postfix to start at selected runlevels and configure
> the main.cf and master.cf files so that when the box reboots postfix
> is ready to go. I'd also like to have this install as slimmed down as
> possible, for example i probably won't be using x so i'd prefer not to
> have any x packages in the install dvd.
> Thanks.
> Dave.

This can all be done with kickstart but you will have to have a quite
big uniqe kickstart config for each machine. And then all that
CD-waste... I'd really rethink the network-install options.


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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread David Mehler
Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I'd probably be doing them in pairs spread out
over a long period. I'd be interested in your php kickstart setup
script.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/13/09, Tait Clarridge  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 20:06 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for all your replies. I checked out spacewalk and cobbler, both
>> of which look like they require a network support infrastructure, at
>> least a tftp server. I want to use a CD or DVD. Kickstart sounds like
>> the way to go, but i'm looking to have everything self contained, for
>> example if i want to install the postfix package, i'll want to remove
>> sendmail, set up postfix to start at selected runlevels and configure
>> the main.cf and master.cf files so that when the box reboots postfix
>> is ready to go. I'd also like to have this install as slimmed down as
>> possible, for example i probably won't be using x so i'd prefer not to
>> have any x packages in the install dvd.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>
> I believe recently there was a thread posted about respinning a DVD for
> these purposes, you could also have a network install CD pointing to a
> local repository on your network and a kickstart on an internal
> webserver.
>
> Kickstart is very robust, I am pretty sure you can get it to do anything
> you want (especially after the install is complete).
>
> I currently have a kickstart script that installs packages for a
> PHP/mysql setup (as well as the base files) and then updates everything
> before rebooting. It also disables a few services that I do not require.
>
> I suggest hitting google for more kickstart tips/tricks.. as there are a
> lot of things you can do. The issue would be that for each of the new
> systems that you want to bring up unattended, you would possibly need to
> burn a new CD or change the kickstart config file on your web server.
> This would be because I am pretty sure that you do not want to have
> multiple machines using the exact same configuration information.
>
> Would you be doing multiple machines at once? Or one at a time, spread
> out over long periods.
>
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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 20:06 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks for all your replies. I checked out spacewalk and cobbler, both
> of which look like they require a network support infrastructure, at
> least a tftp server. I want to use a CD or DVD. Kickstart sounds like
> the way to go, but i'm looking to have everything self contained, for
> example if i want to install the postfix package, i'll want to remove
> sendmail, set up postfix to start at selected runlevels and configure
> the main.cf and master.cf files so that when the box reboots postfix
> is ready to go. I'd also like to have this install as slimmed down as
> possible, for example i probably won't be using x so i'd prefer not to
> have any x packages in the install dvd.
> Thanks.
> Dave.

I believe recently there was a thread posted about respinning a DVD for
these purposes, you could also have a network install CD pointing to a
local repository on your network and a kickstart on an internal
webserver. 

Kickstart is very robust, I am pretty sure you can get it to do anything
you want (especially after the install is complete).

I currently have a kickstart script that installs packages for a
PHP/mysql setup (as well as the base files) and then updates everything
before rebooting. It also disables a few services that I do not require.

I suggest hitting google for more kickstart tips/tricks.. as there are a
lot of things you can do. The issue would be that for each of the new
systems that you want to bring up unattended, you would possibly need to
burn a new CD or change the kickstart config file on your web server.
This would be because I am pretty sure that you do not want to have
multiple machines using the exact same configuration information.

Would you be doing multiple machines at once? Or one at a time, spread
out over long periods.


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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread mark
David Mehler wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks for all your replies. I checked out spacewalk and cobbler, both
> of which look like they require a network support infrastructure, at

I was doing spacewalk the first part of this year. I don't remember it needing 
tftp. On the other hand, it's a *massive* investment of time to install, 
configure, and get working correctly.

Furthermore, it was late April, right before my contract there ran out, that 
they went up to release 0.5. I would *NEVER* recommend using a release under 
1.0 for anything important. Actually, I personally wouldn't touch it for 
anything important until it hit 1.0.1, and the bugs they missed are fixed

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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread David Mehler
Hi,
Thanks for all your replies. I checked out spacewalk and cobbler, both
of which look like they require a network support infrastructure, at
least a tftp server. I want to use a CD or DVD. Kickstart sounds like
the way to go, but i'm looking to have everything self contained, for
example if i want to install the postfix package, i'll want to remove
sendmail, set up postfix to start at selected runlevels and configure
the main.cf and master.cf files so that when the box reboots postfix
is ready to go. I'd also like to have this install as slimmed down as
possible, for example i probably won't be using x so i'd prefer not to
have any x packages in the install dvd.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/12/09, Tait Clarridge  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 10:53 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
>> Hello,
>> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
>> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
>> not only installs a specific list of apps apps that i want on each
>> system, but configures them automatically perhaps via scripts, and
>> enables or disables services etc. Basically, i want to drop the CD or
>> DVD in a box which will probably not have a monitor anyway, and walk
>> away. I then come back or ssh in and everything is already installed,
>> any repos are added, configured and ready to go. Is this a core build?
>> I'd appreciate any pointers on this.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Investigate kickstart installs, you can customize packages and run
> scripts after the install is complete before the box restarts.
>
> Tait
>
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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 10:53 -0400, David Mehler wrote:
> Hello,
> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
> not only installs a specific list of apps apps that i want on each
> system, but configures them automatically perhaps via scripts, and
> enables or disables services etc. Basically, i want to drop the CD or
> DVD in a box which will probably not have a monitor anyway, and walk
> away. I then come back or ssh in and everything is already installed,
> any repos are added, configured and ready to go. Is this a core build?
> I'd appreciate any pointers on this.
> Thanks.
> Dave.

Hi Dave,

Investigate kickstart installs, you can customize packages and run
scripts after the install is complete before the box restarts.

Tait


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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread MHR
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:53 AM, David Mehler  wrote:
> Hello,
> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt

Did I miss the announcement?  I wasn't expecting 5.4 to be out for
another few weeks

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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 PM, David Mehler  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
>> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
>> not only installs a specific list of apps apps that i want on each
>> system, but configures them automatically perhaps via scripts, and
>> enables or disables services etc. Basically, i want to drop the CD or
>> DVD in a box which will probably not have a monitor anyway, and walk
>> away. I then come back or ssh in and everything is already installed,
>> any repos are added, configured and ready to go. Is this a core build?
>> I'd appreciate any pointers on this.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
> 
> cobbler??
> 
> spacewalk??
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rajagopal
Hi

First kickstart, then cfengine or puppet.


Regards

mg.

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Re: [CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 PM, David Mehler  wrote:
> Hello,
> This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
> to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
> not only installs a specific list of apps apps that i want on each
> system, but configures them automatically perhaps via scripts, and
> enables or disables services etc. Basically, i want to drop the CD or
> DVD in a box which will probably not have a monitor anyway, and walk
> away. I then come back or ssh in and everything is already installed,
> any repos are added, configured and ready to go. Is this a core build?
> I'd appreciate any pointers on this.
> Thanks.
> Dave.

cobbler??

spacewalk??

Regards,

Rajagopal
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[CentOS] customized centos 5.4 install, core install?

2009-10-12 Thread David Mehler
Hello,
This might be called a core build not completely positive. What i want
to do is make a completely customized centos 5.4 unattended CD or DVt
not only installs a specific list of apps apps that i want on each
system, but configures them automatically perhaps via scripts, and
enables or disables services etc. Basically, i want to drop the CD or
DVD in a box which will probably not have a monitor anyway, and walk
away. I then come back or ssh in and everything is already installed,
any repos are added, configured and ready to go. Is this a core build?
I'd appreciate any pointers on this.
Thanks.
Dave.
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