Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On 03/28/2011 04:22 PM Robert Heller wrote: At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:53:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote: It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and might have to send one too. Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5? (Hope so.) Hylafax; has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years. http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I remember both of these packages from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax. At that time I bought an internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com port and I believe the interrupt also. Now, however, I'm working on a laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story. Is this an RS232 port connected to an external modem or is it some sort of internal modem? Internal... on a laptop... so a winmodem. :( I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up for the modem so that the fax software can use it. I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly. So far, no joy. Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely) hylafax can use it? Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are thus pretty close to useless under Linux. It might be easier / cheaper / less agravating to just go down to Best Buy and buy a Creative Blaster analog RS232 serial modem. Something like $50US. Note: most newer laptops don't have an external RS232 connection, so you will need to get a USB=RS232 adapter, most of which work out-of-the-box under Linux. (Don't get a USB connected analog modem -- most of these are Winmodems or something equally odd.) Yeah, I think you're right about the Winmodem. setserial -g /dev/ttyS* showed just two recognized serial ports. Rebooting and checking the BIOS told me that the second one was for the IR (InfraRed) device. This laptop does have a regular serial port on it (I insisted on it when I was shopping). I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than wrestling with a winmodem. I don't know yet Otherwise, what does: /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* display? (You might need to be root to do this: sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* Did this (see above) and the serial port (or whatever) which the modem is supposed to be connected to doesn't even show up. From what I've gathered from the Serial-HOWTO, the modem (again, winmodem) is a PnP (plug-n-play)... I'm guessing this thing (from scanpci -v): pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x24cc Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge STATUS0x0280 COMMAND 0x010f CLASS 0x06 0x01 0x00 REVISION 0x01 BIST 0x00 HEADER 0x80 LATENCY 0x00 CACHE 0x00 BYTE_00x01 BYTE_1 0x08 BYTE_2 0x00 BYTE_3 0x00 I've hunted around for a driver for this, got some indication that there might be one, but I haven't found it yet. ) For example my IBM Thinkpad X31 gives this: gollum.deepsoft.com% sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* /dev/ttyS0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 /dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3 /dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4 /dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3 I think /dev/ttyS0 is the IR port, which I don't use. The Winmodem does not show up as a /dev/ttyS* port, since it is not really a serial port at all. I got exactly the same output. Rebooting and going into the BIOS, I found that my IR card was bound to COM2 (ttyS1) and so moved it to COM4, thinking maybe that would uncover the modem's port... but no. I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an email, so I don't need the fax anymore. So I'm bagging this project for now. Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this. So in the meantime, if anyone has any info on the driver which is going to light up this winmodem, give me a little shout. Thanks much to everyone who replied... all good tips... much appreciated. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On 3/29/2011 10:35 AM, ken wrote: I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an email, so I don't need the fax anymore. So I'm bagging this project for now. Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this. I'd sign up for a free google voice account (if you are in the US anyway) instead of fighting with a modem to make an answering machine, especially a modem without a driver... Unfortunately GV doesn't do faxes, but there are other services that will. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
At Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:35:49 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 03/28/2011 04:22 PM Robert Heller wrote: At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:53:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote: It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and might have to send one too. Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5? (Hope so.) Hylafax; has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years. http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I remember both of these packages from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax. At that time I bought an internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com port and I believe the interrupt also. Now, however, I'm working on a laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story. Is this an RS232 port connected to an external modem or is it some sort of internal modem? Internal... on a laptop... so a winmodem. :( I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up for the modem so that the fax software can use it. I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly. So far, no joy. Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely) hylafax can use it? Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are thus pretty close to useless under Linux. It might be easier / cheaper / less agravating to just go down to Best Buy and buy a Creative Blaster analog RS232 serial modem. Something like $50US. Note: most newer laptops don't have an external RS232 connection, so you will need to get a USB=RS232 adapter, most of which work out-of-the-box under Linux. (Don't get a USB connected analog modem -- most of these are Winmodems or something equally odd.) Yeah, I think you're right about the Winmodem. setserial -g /dev/ttyS* showed just two recognized serial ports. Rebooting and checking the BIOS told me that the second one was for the IR (InfraRed) device. This laptop does have a regular serial port on it (I insisted on it when I was shopping). I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than wrestling with a winmodem. I don't know yet The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem. If the laptop does have a good old DB-9 serial port connector, then going to Best Buy (or CompUSA, etc.) and getting something like a Creative Blaster analog RS232 serial modem might be also quite easy and painless. Otherwise, what does: /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* display? (You might need to be root to do this: sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* Did this (see above) and the serial port (or whatever) which the modem is supposed to be connected to doesn't even show up. From what I've gathered from the Serial-HOWTO, the modem (again, winmodem) is a PnP (plug-n-play)... I'm guessing this thing (from scanpci -v): pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x24cc Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge STATUS0x0280 COMMAND 0x010f CLASS 0x06 0x01 0x00 REVISION 0x01 BIST 0x00 HEADER 0x80 LATENCY 0x00 CACHE 0x00 BYTE_00x01 BYTE_1 0x08 BYTE_2 0x00 BYTE_3 0x00 I've hunted around for a driver for this, got some indication that there might be one, but I haven't found it yet. ) For example my IBM Thinkpad X31 gives this: gollum.deepsoft.com% sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* /dev/ttyS0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 /dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3 /dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4 /dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3 I think /dev/ttyS0 is the IR port, which I don't use. The Winmodem does not show up as a /dev/ttyS* port, since it is not really a serial port at all. I got exactly the same output. Rebooting and going into the BIOS, I found that my IR card was bound to COM2 (ttyS1) and so moved it to COM4, thinking maybe that would uncover the modem's port... but no. I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an email, so I don't need the fax anymore. So I'm bagging this project for now. Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this. So in the meantime, if anyone has any info on the driver which is going to light up this winmodem, give me a little shout. Thanks much to everyone who replied... all good tips... much appreciated.
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On 03/29/2011 11:55 AM Les Mikesell wrote: On 3/29/2011 10:35 AM, ken wrote: I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an email, so I don't need the fax anymore. So I'm bagging this project for now. Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this. I'd sign up for a free google voice account (if you are in the US anyway) instead of fighting with a modem to make an answering machine, especially a modem without a driver... Unfortunately GV doesn't do faxes, but there are other services that will. Hmm. Didn't hear about that (except for the google 411). But I've got a couple old answering machines which do the regular routine. I want to add some features to existing FOSS. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than wrestling with a winmodem. I don't know yet The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem. If the laptop does have a good old DB-9 serial port connector, then going to Best Buy (or CompUSA, etc.) and getting something like a Creative Blaster analog RS232 serial modem might be also quite easy and painless. I have a strong aversion to external peripherals dangling off a box... looks too much like a high school science project. And external modems are known to get very hot. I used one somebody gave me to keep my coffee cup warm. :) That Blaster is pretty much the internal modem I had in a previous machine I built.Maybe I should just revive that old dog with a new motherboard and CPU. But hmm, I think that Blaster card needed an ISA slot. Don't know if new mobos have those anymore. (?) Robert, you're probably right all 'round. Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On 3/29/2011 11:25 AM, ken wrote: I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an email, so I don't need the fax anymore. So I'm bagging this project for now. Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this. I'd sign up for a free google voice account (if you are in the US anyway) instead of fighting with a modem to make an answering machine, especially a modem without a driver... Unfortunately GV doesn't do faxes, but there are other services that will. Hmm. Didn't hear about that (except for the google 411). GV has been around for years - but previously you had to get an invite from an existing user or go on a waiting list. Now you can just sign up and get a free number which you can send where you want with/without screening and when it acts as an answering machine it transcribes the message and emails it to you. Recent additions are that you can make (and I think answer) calls from your computer while signed in to your gmail account and if you have Sprint Cell service you can use that number as your GV number without terminating the cell contract. But I've got a couple old answering machines which do the regular routine. I want to add some features to existing FOSS. Modems are kind of ancient technology - all the features are going to voip (freeswitch, asterisk, 2600hz, etc.). -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:08:33PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: GV has been around for years - but previously you had to get an invite from an existing user or go on a waiting list. Now you can just sign up and get a free number which you can send where you want with/without screening and when it acts as an answering machine it transcribes the message and emails it to you. Recent additions are that you can make (and I think answer) calls from your computer while signed in to your gmail account and if you have Sprint Cell service you can use that With the right software and hardware (asterisk and an ATA) you can even use the conjunction of google voice and google chat to act as a real phone line. Indeed I just wrote up a process :-) http://sweh.spuddy.org/gvoice/ But I think that's getting a little off-topic :-) -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:56:17 am Robert Heller wrote: At Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:35:49 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Internal... on a laptop... so a winmodem. :( Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are thus pretty close to useless under Linux. Yeah, I think you're right about the Winmodem. The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem. There were a number of PnP PCMCIA winmodems, too. There are drivers for some winmodems for Linux for some really popular ones. The hard part with a laptop is determining what kind of modem it is, since they all hang off the AC'97 interfaces like a sound card would. You could have a Lucent, a Motorola, or even a 3Com chipset there. In my case, my laptop is a Dell Precision M65; Dell Precision workstations, including the mobile ones, are fully supported (and have been for a long time) under RHEL, and thus under CentOS. This includes 'linmodem' drivers for the Conexant chipset used in my M65; you can get that from Dell at: http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/ While the directory is under the 'Ubuntu' section there is an RPM there you can try, if you have a Dell with a Conexant HSF winmodem, that is. You can also get commercially supported HSF modem drivers from Linuxant. See http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/modemident.php A few years back I actually was successful in using a Conexant modem under a version of Fedora (I think it was FC5 or FC6); but I've not used dialup in a long time, so I never kept that updated. For more information in the subject of using winmodems on Linux, check linmodems.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
At Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:47:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than wrestling with a winmodem. I don't know yet The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem. If the laptop does have a good old DB-9 serial port connector, then going to Best Buy (or CompUSA, etc.) and getting something like a Creative Blaster analog RS232 serial modem might be also quite easy and painless. I have a strong aversion to external peripherals dangling off a box... looks too much like a high school science project. And external modems are known to get very hot. I used one somebody gave me to keep my coffee cup warm. :) Oh, internal modems *also* get hot -- this is not something partitular to external modems -- 'real' (hardware) modems (internal or external) have lots of analog circuts including resistor networks that get hot -- this is part of dealing with analog phone lines, which are still very 19th century in their signaling methods (eg voltage and current levels). And a cooking internal modem can cause other problems, like fried motherboards... One *major* advantage of an external modem is that it can be disconnected, turned off, unplugged, etc. without shutting down the host machine (ditto for reconnecting). Sometimes modems (internal OR external) become confused and need to be 'rebooted'. With an external one, this just means flipping the power switch on the modem, with an internal one it means rebooting the system (which is not always convenient). If all you are doing is the occassional faxing, leave the external modem off, unplugged, and stashed on a shelf. Oh, and it will be less bulky than a all-in-one printer or a real-live fax machine (imagine lugging something like that around). I expect that unlike me, you don't depend on dial-up internet access, so the external modem is not going to be an essentual external peripheral. That Blaster is pretty much the internal modem I had in a previous machine I built.Maybe I should just revive that old dog with a new motherboard and CPU. But hmm, I think that Blaster card needed an ISA slot. Don't know if new mobos have those anymore. (?) Unless you spend serious bucks, ALL *PCI* modems are win modems (there are one or two very high-end 'industrial grade' PCI 'hardware' modems). Many older *ISA* modems were 'hardware' modems and were meant for old i586 and i486 systems that lacked the CPU cycles to handle a controllerless modem (winmodem). And ISA slots are pretty much non-existent on modern motherboards. Robert, you're probably right all 'round. Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 02:07:46 pm Robert Heller wrote: Unless you spend serious bucks, ALL *PCI* modems are win modems (there are one or two very high-end 'industrial grade' PCI 'hardware' modems). Many older *ISA* modems were 'hardware' modems and were meant for old i586 and i486 systems that lacked the CPU cycles to handle a controllerless modem (winmodem). And ISA slots are pretty much non-existent on modern motherboards. I have a couple of 'real hardware' PCI modems, neither of which were very expensive. One is an ActionTec, and I bought it new-old-stock for $15. The other is by Digitan, a DS560-558 that I got with a Sun Ultra 10 workstation. Both are Lucent Venus chipsets and are full hardware controller PCI modems. I have a third one here somewhere that is a more expensive one, a Multitech, I think, but I haven't been able to lay hold on it. There is a Multitech on eBay right now for $19.99; a real deal for an industrial-grade modem. For more information about modem chipsets, see http://www.modemsite.com/56k/chipset.asp and http://techpatterns.com/forums/about483.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 02:07:46 pm Robert Heller wrote: Unless you spend serious bucks, ALL *PCI* modems are win modems (there are one or two very high-end 'industrial grade' PCI 'hardware' modems). Many older *ISA* modems were 'hardware' modems and were meant for old i586 and i486 systems that lacked the CPU cycles to handle a controllerless modem (winmodem). And ISA slots are pretty much non-existent on modern motherboards. I have a couple of 'real hardware' PCI modems, neither of which were very expensive. One is an ActionTec, and I bought it new-old-stock for $15. The other is by Digitan, a DS560-558 that I got with a Sun Ultra 10 workstation. Both are Lucent Venus chipsets and are full hardware controller PCI modems. I have a third one here somewhere that is a more expensive one, a Multitech, I think, but I haven't been able to lay hold on it. There is a Multitech on eBay right now for $19.99; a real deal for an industrial-grade modem. For more information about modem chipsets, see http://www.modemsite.com/56k/chipset.asp and http://techpatterns.com/forums/about483.html Not so much for laptops, but for anyone with servers, RocketPort makes the cream of the crop. They make fabulous 8-port serial PCI and PCI-e cards that just work, with all the standard modem software. USB modems are going for less than $20 these days, and may present a workable alternative if our original poster cannot find Winmodem drivers. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote: It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and might have to send one too. Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5? (Hope so.) Hylafax; has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years. http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I remember both of these packages from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax. At that time I bought an internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com port and I believe the interrupt also. Now, however, I'm working on a laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story. I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up for the modem so that the fax software can use it. I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly. So far, no joy. Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely) hylafax can use it? Much appreciated. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
On 3/28/2011 2:53 PM, ken wrote: It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and might have to send one too. Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5? (Hope so.) Hylafax; has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years. http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I remember both of these packages from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax. At that time I bought an internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com port and I believe the interrupt also. Now, however, I'm working on a laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story. I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up for the modem so that the fax software can use it. I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly. So far, no joy. Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely) hylafax can use it? I've forgotten most of what I knew about serial ports (and hope to keep it that way...) but chances are that the motherboard ports are /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1 and hylafax should be able to do its own initialization. I've always used ckermit to poke around and do manual things to serial ports because after the 'set line device_name' you can 'set carrier off' to keep from locking up when the modem doesn't have carrier yet. I think I had to rebuild a src rpm from somewhere for Centos5, though. It has an odd license and isn't in the distro any more even though the license does explicitly permit that. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]
At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:53:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote: It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and might have to send one too. Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5? (Hope so.) Hylafax; has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years. http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I remember both of these packages from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax. At that time I bought an internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com port and I believe the interrupt also. Now, however, I'm working on a laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story. Is this an RS232 port connected to an external modem or is it some sort of internal modem? I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up for the modem so that the fax software can use it. I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly. So far, no joy. Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely) hylafax can use it? Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are thus pretty close to useless under Linux. It might be easier / cheaper / less agravating to just go down to Best Buy and buy a Creative Blaster analog RS232 serial modem. Something like $50US. Note: most newer laptops don't have an external RS232 connection, so you will need to get a USB=RS232 adapter, most of which work out-of-the-box under Linux. (Don't get a USB connected analog modem -- most of these are Winmodems or something equally odd.) Otherwise, what does: /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* display? (You might need to be root to do this: sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* ) For example my IBM Thinkpad X31 gives this: gollum.deepsoft.com% sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS* /dev/ttyS0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 /dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3 /dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4 /dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3 I think /dev/ttyS0 is the IR port, which I don't use. The Winmodem does not show up as a /dev/ttyS* port, since it is not really a serial port at all. Much appreciated. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos