Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread ken

On 03/28/2011 04:22 PM Robert Heller wrote:
 At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:53:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:
 
 On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote:
 It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and
 might have to send one too.  Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5?
 (Hope so.)
 Hylafax;  has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years.
 http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page
 Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I remember both of these packages
 from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax.  At that time I bought an
 internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com
 port and I believe the interrupt also.  Now, however, I'm working on a
 laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story.
 
 Is this an RS232 port connected to an external modem or is it some sort
 of internal modem?

Internal... on a laptop... so a winmodem.  :(


 
 I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I
 don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up
 for the modem so that the fax software can use it.

 I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have
 the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly.  So far, no
 joy.  Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely)
 hylafax can use it?
 
 Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are
 thus pretty close to useless under Linux.  It might be easier / cheaper
 / less agravating to just go down to Best Buy and buy a Creative
 Blaster analog RS232 serial modem.  Something like $50US.  Note: most
 newer laptops don't have an external RS232 connection, so you will need
 to get a USB=RS232 adapter, most of which work out-of-the-box under
 Linux. (Don't get a USB connected analog modem -- most of these are
 Winmodems or something equally odd.)

Yeah, I think you're right about the Winmodem.  setserial -g
/dev/ttyS* showed just two recognized serial ports.  Rebooting and
checking the BIOS told me that the second one was for the IR (InfraRed)
device.  This laptop does have a regular serial port on it (I insisted
on it when I was shopping).  I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem
card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than
wrestling with a winmodem.  I don't know yet


 
 Otherwise, what does:
 
 /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*
 
 display?
 
 (You might need to be root to do this:
 
 sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*

Did this (see above) and the serial port (or whatever) which the modem
is supposed to be connected to doesn't even show up.  From what I've
gathered from the Serial-HOWTO, the modem (again, winmodem) is a PnP
(plug-n-play)... I'm guessing this thing (from scanpci -v):

pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x24cc
 Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge
  STATUS0x0280  COMMAND 0x010f
  CLASS 0x06 0x01 0x00  REVISION 0x01
  BIST  0x00  HEADER 0x80  LATENCY 0x00  CACHE 0x00
  BYTE_00x01  BYTE_1  0x08  BYTE_2  0x00  BYTE_3  0x00

I've hunted around for a driver for this, got some indication that there
might be one, but I haven't found it yet.


 
 )
 
 For example my IBM Thinkpad X31 gives this:
 
 gollum.deepsoft.com% sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*
 /dev/ttyS0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
 /dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
 /dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
 /dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3
 
 I think /dev/ttyS0 is the IR port, which I don't use.  The Winmodem does
 not show up as a /dev/ttyS* port, since it is not really a serial port
 at all.

I got exactly the same output.  Rebooting and going into the BIOS, I
found that my IR card was bound to COM2 (ttyS1) and so moved it to COM4,
thinking maybe that would uncover the modem's port... but no.

I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who
was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an
email, so I don't need the fax anymore.  So I'm bagging this project for
now.  Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app
on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this.  So in the
meantime, if anyone has any info on the driver which is going to light
up this winmodem, give me a little shout.

Thanks much to everyone who replied... all good tips... much appreciated.


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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/29/2011 10:35 AM, ken wrote:

 I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who
 was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an
 email, so I don't need the fax anymore.  So I'm bagging this project for
 now.  Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app
 on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this.

I'd sign up for a free google voice account (if you are in the US 
anyway) instead of fighting with a modem to make an answering machine, 
especially a modem without a driver...  Unfortunately GV doesn't do 
faxes, but there are other services that will.

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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:35:49 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 On 03/28/2011 04:22 PM Robert Heller wrote:
  At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:53:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
  wrote:
  
  On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote:
  It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and
  might have to send one too.  Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5?
  (Hope so.)
  Hylafax;  has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years.
  http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page
  Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I remember both of these packages
  from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax.  At that time I bought an
  internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com
  port and I believe the interrupt also.  Now, however, I'm working on a
  laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story.
  
  Is this an RS232 port connected to an external modem or is it some sort
  of internal modem?
 
 Internal... on a laptop... so a winmodem.  :(
 
 
  
  I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I
  don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up
  for the modem so that the fax software can use it.
 
  I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have
  the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly.  So far, no
  joy.  Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely)
  hylafax can use it?
  
  Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are
  thus pretty close to useless under Linux.  It might be easier / cheaper
  / less agravating to just go down to Best Buy and buy a Creative
  Blaster analog RS232 serial modem.  Something like $50US.  Note: most
  newer laptops don't have an external RS232 connection, so you will need
  to get a USB=RS232 adapter, most of which work out-of-the-box under
  Linux. (Don't get a USB connected analog modem -- most of these are
  Winmodems or something equally odd.)
 
 Yeah, I think you're right about the Winmodem.  setserial -g
 /dev/ttyS* showed just two recognized serial ports.  Rebooting and
 checking the BIOS told me that the second one was for the IR (InfraRed)
 device.  This laptop does have a regular serial port on it (I insisted
 on it when I was shopping).  I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem
 card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than
 wrestling with a winmodem.  I don't know yet

The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem.  If the laptop does
have a good old DB-9 serial port connector, then going to Best Buy
(or CompUSA, etc.) and getting something like a Creative Blaster analog
RS232 serial modem might be also quite easy and painless.

 
 
  
  Otherwise, what does:
  
  /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*
  
  display?
  
  (You might need to be root to do this:
  
  sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*
 
 Did this (see above) and the serial port (or whatever) which the modem
 is supposed to be connected to doesn't even show up.  From what I've
 gathered from the Serial-HOWTO, the modem (again, winmodem) is a PnP
 (plug-n-play)... I'm guessing this thing (from scanpci -v):
 
 pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x24cc
  Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge
   STATUS0x0280  COMMAND 0x010f
   CLASS 0x06 0x01 0x00  REVISION 0x01
   BIST  0x00  HEADER 0x80  LATENCY 0x00  CACHE 0x00
   BYTE_00x01  BYTE_1  0x08  BYTE_2  0x00  BYTE_3  0x00
 
 I've hunted around for a driver for this, got some indication that there
 might be one, but I haven't found it yet.
 
 
  
  )
  
  For example my IBM Thinkpad X31 gives this:
  
  gollum.deepsoft.com% sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*
  /dev/ttyS0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
  /dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
  /dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
  /dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3
  
  I think /dev/ttyS0 is the IR port, which I don't use.  The Winmodem does
  not show up as a /dev/ttyS* port, since it is not really a serial port
  at all.
 
 I got exactly the same output.  Rebooting and going into the BIOS, I
 found that my IR card was bound to COM2 (ttyS1) and so moved it to COM4,
 thinking maybe that would uncover the modem's port... but no.
 
 I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who
 was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an
 email, so I don't need the fax anymore.  So I'm bagging this project for
 now.  Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app
 on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this.  So in the
 meantime, if anyone has any info on the driver which is going to light
 up this winmodem, give me a little shout.
 
 Thanks much to everyone who replied... all good tips... much appreciated.
 
 
 

Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread ken
On 03/29/2011 11:55 AM Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 3/29/2011 10:35 AM, ken wrote:
 I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who
 was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an
 email, so I don't need the fax anymore.  So I'm bagging this project for
 now.  Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app
 on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this.
 
 I'd sign up for a free google voice account (if you are in the US 
 anyway) instead of fighting with a modem to make an answering machine, 
 especially a modem without a driver...  Unfortunately GV doesn't do 
 faxes, but there are other services that will.
 

Hmm.  Didn't hear about that (except for the google 411).  But I've got
a couple old answering machines which do the regular routine.  I want to
add some features to existing FOSS.

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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread ken
 I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem
 card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than
 wrestling with a winmodem.  I don't know yet
 
 The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem.  If the laptop does
 have a good old DB-9 serial port connector, then going to Best Buy
 (or CompUSA, etc.) and getting something like a Creative Blaster analog
 RS232 serial modem might be also quite easy and painless.

I have a strong aversion to external peripherals dangling off a box...
looks too much like a high school science project.  And external modems
are known to get very hot.  I used one somebody gave me to keep my
coffee cup warm.  :)

That Blaster is pretty much the internal modem I had in a previous
machine I built.Maybe I should just revive that old dog with a new
motherboard and CPU.  But hmm, I think that Blaster card needed an ISA
slot.  Don't know if new mobos have those anymore.  (?)

Robert, you're probably right all 'round.

Thanks.



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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/29/2011 11:25 AM, ken wrote:

 I've got a couple dozen other things I need to do... and the person who
 was going to fax me something is scanning the doc and attaching it to an
 email, so I don't need the fax anymore.  So I'm bagging this project for
 now.  Down the road, however, I want to set up an answering machine app
 on this same machine, so I'll likely come back to all this.

 I'd sign up for a free google voice account (if you are in the US
 anyway) instead of fighting with a modem to make an answering machine,
 especially a modem without a driver...  Unfortunately GV doesn't do
 faxes, but there are other services that will.


 Hmm.  Didn't hear about that (except for the google 411).

GV has been around for years - but previously you had to get an invite 
from an existing user or go on a waiting list.  Now you can just sign up 
and get a free number which you can send where you want with/without 
screening and when it acts as an answering machine it transcribes the 
message and emails it to you.  Recent additions are that you can make 
(and I think answer) calls from your computer while signed in to your 
gmail account and if you have Sprint Cell service you can use that 
number as your GV number without terminating the cell contract.

 But I've got
 a couple old answering machines which do the regular routine.  I want to
 add some features to existing FOSS.

Modems are kind of ancient technology - all the features are going to 
voip (freeswitch, asterisk, 2600hz, etc.).

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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Stephen Harris
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:08:33PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 GV has been around for years - but previously you had to get an invite 
 from an existing user or go on a waiting list.  Now you can just sign up 
 and get a free number which you can send where you want with/without 
 screening and when it acts as an answering machine it transcribes the 
 message and emails it to you.  Recent additions are that you can make 
 (and I think answer) calls from your computer while signed in to your 
 gmail account and if you have Sprint Cell service you can use that 

With the right software and hardware (asterisk and an ATA) you can even
use the conjunction of google voice and google chat to act as a real
phone line.  Indeed I just wrote up a process :-)
  http://sweh.spuddy.org/gvoice/

But I think that's getting a little off-topic :-)

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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:56:17 am Robert Heller wrote:
 At Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:35:49 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:

  Internal... on a laptop... so a winmodem.  :(

   Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are
   thus pretty close to useless under Linux. 

  Yeah, I think you're right about the Winmodem. 

 The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem.  

There were a number of PnP PCMCIA winmodems, too.

There are drivers for some winmodems for Linux for some really popular ones.  
The hard part with a laptop is determining what kind of modem it is, since they 
all hang off the AC'97 interfaces like a sound card would.  You could have a 
Lucent, a Motorola, or even a 3Com chipset there.

In my case, my laptop is a Dell Precision M65; Dell Precision workstations, 
including the mobile ones, are fully supported (and have been for a long time) 
under RHEL, and thus under CentOS.  This includes 'linmodem' drivers for the 
Conexant chipset used in my M65; you can get that from Dell at:
http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/
While the directory is under the 'Ubuntu' section there is an RPM there you can 
try, if you have a Dell with a Conexant HSF winmodem, that is. 

You can also get commercially supported HSF modem drivers from Linuxant. See 
http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/modemident.php

A few years back I actually was successful in using a Conexant modem under a 
version of Fedora (I think it was FC5 or FC6); but I've not used dialup in a 
long time, so I never kept that updated.

For more information in the subject of using winmodems on Linux, check 
linmodems.org
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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:47:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
  I also have a PCMCIA slot and an old modem
  card from a previous laptop, so that might be a better option than
  wrestling with a winmodem.  I don't know yet
  
  The old PCMCIA modem card might not be a fax modem.  If the laptop does
  have a good old DB-9 serial port connector, then going to Best Buy
  (or CompUSA, etc.) and getting something like a Creative Blaster analog
  RS232 serial modem might be also quite easy and painless.
 
 I have a strong aversion to external peripherals dangling off a box...
 looks too much like a high school science project.  And external modems
 are known to get very hot.  I used one somebody gave me to keep my
 coffee cup warm.  :)

Oh, internal modems *also* get hot -- this is not something partitular
to external modems -- 'real' (hardware) modems (internal or external)
have lots of analog circuts including resistor networks that get hot --
this is part of dealing with analog phone lines, which are still very
19th century in their signaling methods (eg voltage and current
levels).  And a cooking internal modem can cause other problems, like
fried motherboards... One *major* advantage of an external modem is
that it can be disconnected, turned off, unplugged, etc. without
shutting down the host machine (ditto for reconnecting). Sometimes
modems (internal OR external) become confused and need to be
'rebooted'.  With an external one, this just means flipping the power
switch on the modem, with an internal one it means rebooting the system
(which is not always convenient).

If all you are doing is the occassional faxing, leave the external
modem off, unplugged, and stashed on a shelf.  Oh, and it will be less
bulky than a all-in-one printer or a real-live fax machine (imagine
lugging something like that around).  I expect that unlike me, you
don't depend on dial-up internet access, so the external modem is not
going to be an essentual external peripheral.

 
 That Blaster is pretty much the internal modem I had in a previous
 machine I built.Maybe I should just revive that old dog with a new
 motherboard and CPU.  But hmm, I think that Blaster card needed an ISA
 slot.  Don't know if new mobos have those anymore.  (?)

Unless you spend serious bucks, ALL *PCI* modems are win modems (there
are one or two very high-end 'industrial grade' PCI 'hardware' modems).
Many older *ISA* modems were 'hardware' modems and were meant for old
i586 and i486 systems that lacked the CPU cycles to handle a
controllerless modem (winmodem).  And ISA slots are pretty much
non-existent on modern motherboards.

 
 Robert, you're probably right all 'round.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 02:07:46 pm Robert Heller wrote:
 Unless you spend serious bucks, ALL *PCI* modems are win modems (there
 are one or two very high-end 'industrial grade' PCI 'hardware' modems).
 Many older *ISA* modems were 'hardware' modems and were meant for old
 i586 and i486 systems that lacked the CPU cycles to handle a
 controllerless modem (winmodem).  And ISA slots are pretty much
 non-existent on modern motherboards.

I have a couple of 'real hardware' PCI modems, neither of which were very 
expensive.  One is an ActionTec, and I bought it new-old-stock for $15.  The 
other is by Digitan, a DS560-558 that I got with a Sun Ultra 10 workstation.  
Both are Lucent Venus chipsets and are full hardware controller PCI modems.

I have a third one here somewhere that is a more expensive one, a Multitech, I 
think, but I haven't been able to lay hold on it.  There is a Multitech on eBay 
right now for $19.99; a real deal for an industrial-grade modem.

For more information about modem chipsets, see 
http://www.modemsite.com/56k/chipset.asp and
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about483.html
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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
 On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 02:07:46 pm Robert Heller wrote:
 Unless you spend serious bucks, ALL *PCI* modems are win modems (there
 are one or two very high-end 'industrial grade' PCI 'hardware' modems).
 Many older *ISA* modems were 'hardware' modems and were meant for old
 i586 and i486 systems that lacked the CPU cycles to handle a
 controllerless modem (winmodem).  And ISA slots are pretty much
 non-existent on modern motherboards.

 I have a couple of 'real hardware' PCI modems, neither of which were very 
 expensive.  One is an ActionTec, and I bought it new-old-stock for $15.  The 
 other is by Digitan, a DS560-558 that I got with a Sun Ultra 10 workstation.  
 Both are Lucent Venus chipsets and are full hardware controller PCI modems.

 I have a third one here somewhere that is a more expensive one, a Multitech, 
 I think, but I haven't been able to lay hold on it.  There is a Multitech on 
 eBay right now for $19.99; a real deal for an industrial-grade modem.

 For more information about modem chipsets, see 
 http://www.modemsite.com/56k/chipset.asp and
 http://techpatterns.com/forums/about483.html

Not so much for laptops, but for anyone with servers, RocketPort makes
the cream of the crop. They make fabulous 8-port serial PCI and PCI-e
cards that just work, with all the standard modem software.

USB modems are going for less than $20 these days, and may present a
workable alternative if our original poster cannot find Winmodem
drivers.
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[CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-28 Thread ken
On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote:
 It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and
 might have to send one too.  Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5?
 (Hope so.)
 
 Hylafax;  has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years.
 http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I remember both of these packages
from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax.  At that time I bought an
internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com
port and I believe the interrupt also.  Now, however, I'm working on a
laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story.

I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I
don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up
for the modem so that the fax software can use it.

I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have
the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly.  So far, no
joy.  Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely)
hylafax can use it?

Much appreciated.

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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 2:53 PM, ken wrote:

 It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and
 might have to send one too.  Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5?
 (Hope so.)

 Hylafax;  has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years.
 http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page

 Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I remember both of these packages
 from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax.  At that time I bought an
 internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com
 port and I believe the interrupt also.  Now, however, I'm working on a
 laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story.

 I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I
 don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up
 for the modem so that the fax software can use it.

 I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have
 the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly.  So far, no
 joy.  Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely)
 hylafax can use it?

I've forgotten most of what I knew about serial ports (and hope to keep 
it that way...) but chances are that the motherboard ports are 
/dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1 and hylafax should be able to do its own 
initialization.  I've always used ckermit to poke around and do manual 
things to serial ports because after the 'set line device_name' you can 
'set carrier off' to keep from locking up when the modem doesn't have 
carrier yet.  I think I had to rebuild a src rpm from somewhere for 
Centos5, though.  It has an odd license and isn't in the distro any more 
even though the license does explicitly permit that.

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Re: [CentOS] finding the right serial port, enabling configuring it [was: Re: fax software]

2011-03-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:53:50 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 On 03/28/2011 05:59 AM Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
  On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 22:41 -0400, ken wrote:
  It's been many years, but it seems that I have to receive a fax and
  might have to send one too.  Is there a way to do this on CentOS 5.5?
  (Hope so.)
  
  Hylafax;  has been quietly running at work, without incident, for years.
  http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page
 
 Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I remember both of these packages
 from years ago-- the last time I set up a fax.  At that time I bought an
 internal modem-- not a Winmodem, one with jumpers on it to set the com
 port and I believe the interrupt also.  Now, however, I'm working on a
 laptop with a serial chip on the mainboard and it's a different story.

Is this an RS232 port connected to an external modem or is it some sort
of internal modem?

 
 I've been reading the Serial-HOWTO, but it's a huge doc and I hope I
 don't need to read this entire monograph to get the serial port set up
 for the modem so that the fax software can use it.
 
 I've run minicom to see if I can dial out with it-- to test if I have
 the modem's serial port enabled and configured properly.  So far, no
 joy.  Anyone have tips to set up the modem so that efax or (more likely)
 hylafax can use it?

Almost all *internal* modems (esp. on laptops) are Winmodems and are
thus pretty close to useless under Linux.  It might be easier / cheaper
/ less agravating to just go down to Best Buy and buy a Creative
Blaster analog RS232 serial modem.  Something like $50US.  Note: most
newer laptops don't have an external RS232 connection, so you will need
to get a USB=RS232 adapter, most of which work out-of-the-box under
Linux. (Don't get a USB connected analog modem -- most of these are
Winmodems or something equally odd.)

Otherwise, what does:

/bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*

display?

(You might need to be root to do this:

sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*

)

For example my IBM Thinkpad X31 gives this:

gollum.deepsoft.com% sudo /bin/setserial -g /dev/ttyS*
/dev/ttyS0, UART: undefined, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
/dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3

I think /dev/ttyS0 is the IR port, which I don't use.  The Winmodem does
not show up as a /dev/ttyS* port, since it is not really a serial port
at all.

 
 Much appreciated.
 
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