[CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Tom Brown
Apologies if i missed this on the list but is there a fix for this
available to 6.0?

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html

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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Spook ZA
Hi Tom

On 22 September 2011 18:21, Tom Brown t...@ng23.net wrote:

 Apologies if i missed this on the list but is there a fix for this
 available to 6.0?

 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html

 thanks

Please see below the response from Karanbir.

Regards,
  Andy.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org
Date: 1 September 2011 12:39
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org


Thanks Tom,

On 09/01/2011 02:05 AM, Tom Lanyon wrote:
 For EL 4, 5, 6:
 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html

rpms for C5 are pushed into the 5.6/cr/ repo; the c6 build is running
now, we will have the cr stuff up for that today and get this into there
as well.

Unless Tru gets to it before me, I'll get the c4 builds out as well in a
bit.

- KB
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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Tom Brown
On 23 September 2011 15:15, Spook ZA spoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Tom


 Please see below the response from Karanbir.

 Regards,
  Andy.


 rpms for C5 are pushed into the 5.6/cr/ repo; the c6 build is running
 now, we will have the cr stuff up for that today and get this into there
 as well.

Yes but CR for 6.0 is empty no ?

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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
What are you trying to say?
Karanbirs response is three weeks old and AFAICS the 6.0/cr repo is still 
empty on the mirrors so there is no package for that problem available.

If there are problems getting 6.0/cr going then fine but in that case fixes 
for such dangerous bugs should be made available in some other way for 
example by uploading a package to some temporary location until things are 
working as they should.

Regards,
   Dennis

On 09/23/2011 04:15 PM, Spook ZA wrote:
 Hi Tom

 On 22 September 2011 18:21, Tom Brownt...@ng23.net  wrote:

 Apologies if i missed this on the list but is there a fix for this
 available to 6.0?

 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html

 thanks

 Please see below the response from Karanbir.

 Regards,
Andy.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Karanbir Singhmail-li...@karan.org
 Date: 1 September 2011 12:39
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool
 To: CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org


 Thanks Tom,

 On 09/01/2011 02:05 AM, Tom Lanyon wrote:
 For EL 4, 5, 6:
 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html

 rpms for C5 are pushed into the 5.6/cr/ repo; the c6 build is running
 now, we will have the cr stuff up for that today and get this into there
 as well.

 Unless Tru gets to it before me, I'll get the c4 builds out as well in a
 bit.

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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

 What are you trying to say?
 Karanbirs response is three weeks old and AFAICS the 6.0/cr repo is still
 empty on the mirrors so there is no package for that problem available.

 If there are problems getting 6.0/cr going then fine but in that case fixes
 for such dangerous bugs should be made available in some other way for
 example by uploading a package to some temporary location until things are
 working as they should.

Yes it'd be nice.

Until then, you can always grab the redhat srpm, or get a binary rpm from SL.

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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 09/23/2011 04:30 PM, John Hodrien wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

 What are you trying to say?
 Karanbirs response is three weeks old and AFAICS the 6.0/cr repo is still
 empty on the mirrors so there is no package for that problem available.

 If there are problems getting 6.0/cr going then fine but in that case fixes
 for such dangerous bugs should be made available in some other way for
 example by uploading a package to some temporary location until things are
 working as they should.

 Yes it'd be nice.

 Until then, you can always grab the redhat srpm, or get a binary rpm from SL.

Still the fact that centos is leaving its users exposed to this kind of 
thing is...problematic. What's even more perplexing is that according the 
Karanbir the package was ready to go yet since then there is a sudden radio 
silence for three weeks. If there are still problems with building the 
updates ok but then they could have at least pushed this package out or put 
it on some server for people to download manually and if that is a problem 
too then they should have put out a message the next day that there are 
still problems and that people are better off building the updated package 
themselves.
At least that would have given the users some information to act on.

Regards,
   Dennis
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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/23/2011 09:53 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
 On 09/23/2011 04:30 PM, John Hodrien wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

 What are you trying to say?
 Karanbirs response is three weeks old and AFAICS the 6.0/cr repo is still
 empty on the mirrors so there is no package for that problem available.

 If there are problems getting 6.0/cr going then fine but in that case fixes
 for such dangerous bugs should be made available in some other way for
 example by uploading a package to some temporary location until things are
 working as they should.

 Yes it'd be nice.

 Until then, you can always grab the redhat srpm, or get a binary rpm from SL.
 
 Still the fact that centos is leaving its users exposed to this kind of 
 thing is...problematic. What's even more perplexing is that according the 
 Karanbir the package was ready to go yet since then there is a sudden radio 
 silence for three weeks. If there are still problems with building the 
 updates ok but then they could have at least pushed this package out or put 
 it on some server for people to download manually and if that is a problem 
 too then they should have put out a message the next day that there are 
 still problems and that people are better off building the updated package 
 themselves.
 At least that would have given the users some information to act on.

What other packages inside the system might be impacted by changing the
httpd executable?

What shared libraries might needed to run the new version of httpd that
were built on the 6.1 tree and may not work without the other updates.

One package can not be built and pushed in a totally different tree and
then released.

It requires testing.

We are doing the best we can.





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Re: [CentOS] https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-1245.html - CentOS 6

2011-09-23 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 09/23/2011 07:12 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 On 09/23/2011 09:53 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
 On 09/23/2011 04:30 PM, John Hodrien wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

 What are you trying to say?
 Karanbirs response is three weeks old and AFAICS the 6.0/cr repo is still
 empty on the mirrors so there is no package for that problem available.

 If there are problems getting 6.0/cr going then fine but in that case fixes
 for such dangerous bugs should be made available in some other way for
 example by uploading a package to some temporary location until things are
 working as they should.

 Yes it'd be nice.

 Until then, you can always grab the redhat srpm, or get a binary rpm from 
 SL.

 Still the fact that centos is leaving its users exposed to this kind of
 thing is...problematic. What's even more perplexing is that according the
 Karanbir the package was ready to go yet since then there is a sudden radio
 silence for three weeks. If there are still problems with building the
 updates ok but then they could have at least pushed this package out or put
 it on some server for people to download manually and if that is a problem
 too then they should have put out a message the next day that there are
 still problems and that people are better off building the updated package
 themselves.
 At least that would have given the users some information to act on.

 What other packages inside the system might be impacted by changing the
 httpd executable?

 What shared libraries might needed to run the new version of httpd that
 were built on the 6.1 tree and may not work without the other updates.

 One package can not be built and pushed in a totally different tree and
 then released.

 It requires testing.

 We are doing the best we can.

And this is really appreciated believe me but here is the problem:
Three week ago Karanbir announced an imminent release for the httpd 
package. Since then nothing happened.
Let's assume for a moment a major problem was discovered that somehow 
prevent the new package from being released. Let's also assume that 
everyone who could address the problem is really busy with really important 
stuff.

Why wasn't it possible for anyone to send out an announcement basically saying:
For reasons we don't want disclose we cannot push out an updated httpd 
package anytime soon. Please build your own updated versions or find 
someone who can do it for you.

At least people would know what the situation is.

*THAT* is the issue here. I can understand that all this stuff is 
complicated but sending an email is not and so that is always something you 
could and should fall back on in the absence of any better options.

Regards,
   Dennis

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