Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-26 Thread Dunc

Ned Slider wrote:

Dunc wrote:

Hi

Yes it was written as rpmnew, and indeed the default was the same. 
But using the original I was using before, changing nothing,  with 
[::] I could not connect after the upgrade. I restarted many times, 
and eventually changing the original to [*] allowed me to connect.


I then changed to the new conf (after changing a few things like 
using mysql to authenticate, minimum uid to match my setup), and 
again could not connect. Changing the new conf to [*] then solved it.


How are you disabling IPv6, maybe that is making the difference?



To disable IPv6 as per the Wiki:

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5?highlight=(ipv6)#head-47912ebdae3b5ac10ff76053ef057c366b421dc4 




Hi

Seems that is making the difference. With IPv6 disabled both * and :: 
work. If I enable it again and reboot only * works..


Dunc


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-26 Thread Ned Slider

Dunc wrote:

Ned Slider wrote:

Dunc wrote:

Hi

Yes it was written as rpmnew, and indeed the default was the same. 
But using the original I was using before, changing nothing,  with 
[::] I could not connect after the upgrade. I restarted many times, 
and eventually changing the original to [*] allowed me to connect.


I then changed to the new conf (after changing a few things like 
using mysql to authenticate, minimum uid to match my setup), and 
again could not connect. Changing the new conf to [*] then solved it.


How are you disabling IPv6, maybe that is making the difference?



To disable IPv6 as per the Wiki:

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5?highlight=(ipv6)#head-47912ebdae3b5ac10ff76053ef057c366b421dc4 




Hi

Seems that is making the difference. With IPv6 disabled both * and :: 
work. If I enable it again and reboot only * works..


Dunc




OK, thanks Dunc.

As this seems to affect the default install configuration we presumably 
need to add a note somewhere to reflect this. Thanks for spotting and 
reporting it.


Has anyone else experienced this or can confirm it?


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-26 Thread Karanbir Singh

Ned Slider wrote:

As this seems to affect the default install configuration we presumably
need to add a note somewhere to reflect this. Thanks for spotting and
reporting it.

Has anyone else experienced this or can confirm it?



There are some of us, who really use IPv6 in real life :D
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RE: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karanbir Singh  scribbled on Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:31 PM:

 Ned Slider wrote:
 As this seems to affect the default install configuration we presumably
 need to add a note somewhere to reflect this. Thanks for spotting and
 reporting it. 
 
 Has anyone else experienced this or can confirm it?
 
 
 There are some of us, who really use IPv6 in real life :D

Somebody's actually using IPv6? One comes to think of flying pigs for some
reason... ;-)


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-26 Thread Karanbir Singh

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Has anyone else experienced this or can confirm it?


There are some of us, who really use IPv6 in real life :D


Somebody's actually using IPv6? One comes to think of flying pigs for some
reason... ;-)


umm. bacon..

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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Andreas Micklei
Am Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? I get
 the feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...

Zero problems here after upgrading a bunch of servers. I guess the majority of 
users without problems is just not as loud. :-)

Thank you CentOS team for the good work!

regards,
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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Test
Ha, until now it looks ok,  but i only upgraded yesterday evening...


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Karanbir Singh

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? I get the
feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...



well, how it works is that the millions of machines out there where it 
just worked, wont get reported, but if things break people could use a 
helpinghand, or just something to sync with other people who have 
similar problems.


Going by your take of things, looking at the bugs.centos.org site - one 
might conclude that OhMyGod,NothingWorks,PanicPanicPanic, is there 
anything on this ship that is good!!


Which would, even if I may say so myself, be quite wrong!

I think everything is good :D Just a few people run into issues, so they 
report them ( and they should, its what makes us a community! )

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RE: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andreas Micklei  scribbled on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:37 PM:

 Thank you CentOS team for the good work!

I second that!


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes

Karanbir Singh wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? 
I get the

feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...



well, how it works is that the millions of machines out there where it 
just worked, wont get reported, but if things break people could use a 
helpinghand, or just something to sync with other people who have 
similar problems.


Going by your take of things, looking at the bugs.centos.org site - one 
might conclude that OhMyGod,NothingWorks,PanicPanicPanic, is there 
anything on this ship that is good!!


Which would, even if I may say so myself, be quite wrong!

I think everything is good :D Just a few people run into issues, so they 
report them ( and they should, its what makes us a community! )


As KB says, we estimate more than 2 million CentOS installs out there, 
so the number of major issues are fairly small compared to that.


We have identified several upstream issues that we have put in the 
Release Notes (see the known issues section) and for most we have 
testing packages to fix them.


Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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RE: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karanbir Singh  scribbled on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:51 PM:

 Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? I
 get the feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...
 
 
 well, how it works is that the millions of machines out there where it
 just worked, wont get reported, but if things break people could use a
 helpinghand, or just something to sync with other people who have
 similar problems.
 
 Going by your take of things, looking at the bugs.centos.org site - one
 might conclude that OhMyGod,NothingWorks,PanicPanicPanic, is there
 anything on this ship that is good!!
 
 Which would, even if I may say so myself, be quite wrong!
 
 I think everything is good :D Just a few people run into issues, so they
 report them ( and they should, its what makes us a community! )

You're are right I guess. 8-) Like the other guy said, the ones with problems
are just louder than the rest of us. ;-)

Actually I did panic a bit when yum finished looking for updates and reported
it needed some 300-400MB. I was afarid I'd hit the max on /. Turns out it
worked flawlessly. My mother OTOH, has a 256kbps line down and 300-400M will
take a while to download... She doesn't have any space-constraints though on /
as I had. Win some, lose some...

All in all, CentOS 5.2 seems to work fine. My web server and sshd is still up
and chugging along. I'm happy. 8-)


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Dunc

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Hi all,

Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? I get the 
feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...
  



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Only problem I had was my dovecot imap server going down, but that was 
my fault for not reading through the new .conf file properly..


other than that its been very smooth

big thanks to everyone involved, great work!

cheers

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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes

Dunc wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? 
I get the feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...
  



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Only problem I had was my dovecot imap server going down, but that was 
my fault for not reading through the new .conf file properly..


other than that its been very smooth

big thanks to everyone involved, great work!


If there is something in the conf file that needs to change (that worked 
in 5.1 and does not in 5.2) let us know and we can add it to the release 
notes and/or wiki.




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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Michel van Deventer
Hi,

On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 12:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Am I the only one to have had a totally trouble-free upgrade to 5.2?? I get 
 the 
 feeling that most everybody seems to have *some* problems...
I upgraded 4 machines (all virtual) without any problems from 5.1 to
5.2, tonight I'll upgrade the host machine but I do not expect any
problems.
I'm only cautious to upgrade my old webserver which is a dual PIII and
is located about 100km from my home ;) I wouldn't like a kernel panic
there.

Regards,

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RE: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Michel van Deventer
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andreas Micklei  scribbled on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:37 PM:
 
  Thank you CentOS team for the good work!
 
 I second that!
Me too !! And another donation on its way to CentOS ! :)

Regards,

Michel


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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Dunc

Johnny Hughes wrote:


If there is something in the conf file that needs to change (that 
worked in 5.1 and does not in 5.2) let us know and we can add it to 
the release notes and/or wiki.



It was in the listening section as follows:

# A space separated list of IP or host addresses where to listen in for
# connections. * listens in all IPv4 interfaces. [::] listens in all 
IPv6

# interfaces, but may also listen in all IPv4 interfaces depending on the
# operating system. Use *, [::] for listening both IPv4 and IPv6.
#
# If you want to specify ports for each service, you will need to configure
# these settings inside the protocol imap/pop3 { ... } section, so you can
# specify different ports for IMAP/POP3. For example:
#   protocol imap {
# listen = *:10143
# ssl_listen = *:10943
# ..
#   }
#   protocol pop3 {
# listen = *:10100
# ..
#   }
listen = *
#listen = [::]

The listen bit defaults to [::]. I had to change it to * as above 
otherwise I couldn't connect to it. (connection refused)


As it says above, [::] only listens on IPv4 'depending on the operating 
system'. So something has changed from 5.1 to 5.2 which means that is no 
longer the case.


thanks

Dunc
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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread William L. Maltby

On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 14:39 +0200, Michel van Deventer wrote:
 Hi,
 snip

 I upgraded 4 machines (all virtual) without any problems from 5.1 to
 5.2, tonight I'll upgrade the host machine but I do not expect any
 problems.
 I'm only cautious to upgrade my old webserver which is a dual PIII and
 is located about 100km from my home ;) I wouldn't like a kernel panic
 there.

Suggestion: before rebooting, edit grub's config to default to the old
kernel. Then reboot, selecting the new one. If it fails, when the
machine is booted again, it will be in the old stuff. If it works, you
can then edit grub's config again to default to the new one.

 
   Regards,
 
   Michel
 snip

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Ned Slider

Dunc wrote:

Johnny Hughes wrote:


If there is something in the conf file that needs to change (that 
worked in 5.1 and does not in 5.2) let us know and we can add it to 
the release notes and/or wiki.



It was in the listening section as follows:

# A space separated list of IP or host addresses where to listen in for
# connections. * listens in all IPv4 interfaces. [::] listens in all 
IPv6

# interfaces, but may also listen in all IPv4 interfaces depending on the
# operating system. Use *, [::] for listening both IPv4 and IPv6.
#
# If you want to specify ports for each service, you will need to configure
# these settings inside the protocol imap/pop3 { ... } section, so you can
# specify different ports for IMAP/POP3. For example:
#   protocol imap {
# listen = *:10143
# ssl_listen = *:10943
# ..
#   }
#   protocol pop3 {
# listen = *:10100
# ..
#   }
listen = *
#listen = [::]

The listen bit defaults to [::]. I had to change it to * as above 
otherwise I couldn't connect to it. (connection refused)


As it says above, [::] only listens on IPv4 'depending on the operating 
system'. So something has changed from 5.1 to 5.2 which means that is no 
longer the case.


thanks

Dunc


That's strange Dunc.

The new config file was written to /etc/dovecot/conf.rpmnew (as 
expected) for me, so your modified original doesn't get overwritten. I 
can see no difference between the 5.1 and 5.2 config files wrt the 
'listen' directive. Mine was, and still is, set to the default [::] and 
still works fine. Further, I have IPv6 disabled on the server. I have 
tested on both i386 and x86_64 platforms and each are working fine both 
with and without ssl/tls.


Did you restart the dovecot service after it was updated? (I'm not sure 
if yum update does this automatically or not when updating a daemon 
service that is running).


Regards,

Ned

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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Dunc

Ned Slider wrote:


That's strange Dunc.

The new config file was written to /etc/dovecot/conf.rpmnew (as 
expected) for me, so your modified original doesn't get overwritten. I 
can see no difference between the 5.1 and 5.2 config files wrt the 
'listen' directive. Mine was, and still is, set to the default [::] 
and still works fine. Further, I have IPv6 disabled on the server. I 
have tested on both i386 and x86_64 platforms and each are working 
fine both with and without ssl/tls.


Did you restart the dovecot service after it was updated? (I'm not 
sure if yum update does this automatically or not when updating a 
daemon service that is running).


Regards,

Ned

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Hi

Yes it was written as rpmnew, and indeed the default was the same. But 
using the original I was using before, changing nothing,  with [::] I 
could not connect after the upgrade. I restarted many times, and 
eventually changing the original to [*] allowed me to connect.


I then changed to the new conf (after changing a few things like using 
mysql to authenticate, minimum uid to match my setup), and again could 
not connect. Changing the new conf to [*] then solved it.


How are you disabling IPv6, maybe that is making the difference?

thanks

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Re: [CentOS] 5.2 blues

2008-06-25 Thread Ned Slider

Dunc wrote:

Hi

Yes it was written as rpmnew, and indeed the default was the same. But 
using the original I was using before, changing nothing,  with [::] I 
could not connect after the upgrade. I restarted many times, and 
eventually changing the original to [*] allowed me to connect.


I then changed to the new conf (after changing a few things like using 
mysql to authenticate, minimum uid to match my setup), and again could 
not connect. Changing the new conf to [*] then solved it.


How are you disabling IPv6, maybe that is making the difference?



To disable IPv6 as per the Wiki:

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5?highlight=(ipv6)#head-47912ebdae3b5ac10ff76053ef057c366b421dc4


Also, see this thread by Lenard:

http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=8203forum=40


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