Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Monday 24 September 2007, Rajeev R Veedu wrote:
...
 I got a Gparted live CD and tried to create a partition for 3tb but still
 the maximum size of partition I could create is 0.75gb.

Just using parted or gparted is not enough, you need to use a gpt, not a 
traditional dos-style, partition table.

Worth noting, you can't (easily) boot from a gpt drive...

/Peter


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RE: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-24 Thread Rajeev R Veedu
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William L. Maltby wrote:
 IIRC, sector size is controlled at the hardware level(used to be set
 with jumpers and/or low-level format programs?). I seem to recall that
 new drives don't really have sectors anymore, but have supporting
 circuits/(EE)proms that emulate that?
   

no, sectors are still 512 bytes (plus ECC and header info) on the 
physical disk.  its the 'heads' and 'cylinders' that are abstracted.  
there's still heads and cylinders, its just that different zones of the 
disk have differing sector/track counts.


I got a Gparted live CD and tried to create a partition for 3tb but still
the maximum size of partition I could create is 0.75gb. it shows 2.0tb space
as unused but If I add another partition it doesn't take(it says no empty
cylinders). The version I am tiring to install is centos5.

Thanks

Rajeev
 





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RE: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-24 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Rajeev R Veedu wrote:
 
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 Of John R Pierce
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 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk
 
 William L. Maltby wrote:
  IIRC, sector size is controlled at the hardware level(used to be set
  with jumpers and/or low-level format programs?). I seem to 
 recall that
  new drives don't really have sectors anymore, but have supporting
  circuits/(EE)proms that emulate that?

 
 no, sectors are still 512 bytes (plus ECC and header info) on the 
 physical disk.  its the 'heads' and 'cylinders' that are 
 abstracted.  
 there's still heads and cylinders, its just that different 
 zones of the 
 disk have differing sector/track counts.
 
 
 I got a Gparted live CD and tried to create a partition for 
 3tb but still
 the maximum size of partition I could create is 0.75gb. it 
 shows 2.0tb space
 as unused but If I add another partition it doesn't take(it 
 says no empty
 cylinders). The version I am tiring to install is centos5.

For a volume that large you should really use LVM.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread Fabian Arrotin
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 21:43 +0400, Rajeev R Veedu wrote:
 I need to install Centos on a machine with 3tb raid disk. (3 ware raid
 card) Could someone in the list suggest a utility for partition this
 disk. I would like to have the whole disk in 1 partition and format it
 for ext3. The default partitioning utility doesn’t do this. The OS
 sits on another SATA disk and each time during the installation it
 doesn’t format the full disk which is 3TB. 
 
  
 
 Could someone suggest another disk partitioning utility (other than
 fdisk) please?

use parted, and put a gpt label on your disk ...
Then you'll be able to use a single ext3 filesystem
 
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Solution ? 
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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread Bart Schaefer
On 9/23/07, Rajeev R Veedu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need to install Centos on a machine with 3tb raid disk. (3 ware raid card)
 Could someone in the list suggest a utility for partition this disk.

We recently installed CentOS 5 on a pair of machines with 2.5TB RAIDs
and the only way we could get it to work was to use LVM on the raw
disk. I didn't do it myself so I don't recall all the details, but the
gist of it was that in any other partition the tools would not
increase the block size above 512, so it was not possible to allocate
enough cylinders to fill the disk.  (The size could be set to  512
but then when the partition was created it always ignored the setting
and used 512, or something to that effect.)

fdisk -l output:

Disk /dev/sdc: 2494.9 GB, 2494992220160 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 151666 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 1024 = 16450560 bytes

Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table

I don't know whether gparted would have enabled some different magic,
I'm not sure anyone here tried using it.
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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread Bart Schaefer
On 9/23/07, Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 gist of it was that in any other partition the tools would not
 increase the block size above 512

Sorry for the self-follow-up ... but I meant sector size there, not block.
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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread William L. Maltby
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 11:30 -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote:
 On 9/23/07, Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  gist of it was that in any other partition the tools would not
  increase the block size above 512
 
 Sorry for the self-follow-up ... but I meant sector size there, not block.

IIRC, sector size is controlled at the hardware level(used to be set
with jumpers and/or low-level format programs?). I seem to recall that
new drives don't really have sectors anymore, but have supporting
circuits/(EE)proms that emulate that?

I've never seen a sector size that could be set by a partioning program.

But I've certainly not seen *everything*.

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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread gjgowey
Gparted and partion magic will do it.  Windows will do it if you format via the 
disk management console.

Geoff

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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:43:48 
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk


On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 11:30 -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote:
 On 9/23/07, Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  gist of it was that in any other partition the tools would not
  increase the block size above 512

 Sorry for the self-follow-up ... but I meant sector size there, not block.

IIRC, sector size is controlled at the hardware level(used to be set
with jumpers and/or low-level format programs?). I seem to recall that
new drives don't really have sectors anymore, but have supporting
circuits/(EE)proms that emulate that?

I've never seen a sector size that could be set by a partioning program.

But I've certainly not seen *everything*.

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--
Bill

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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread Von Landfried
I had this same issue with 'fdisk' when I installed it on a server  
with 12TB of space RAID'd down to 6TB. Just use 'parted' and it will  
solve your problems.


http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/



On Sep 23, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Rajeev R Veedu wrote:

I need to install Centos on a machine with 3tb raid disk. (3 ware  
raid card) Could someone in the list suggest a utility for  
partition this disk. I would like to have the whole disk in 1  
partition and format it for ext3. The default partitioning utility  
doesn’t do this. The OS sits on another SATA disk and each time  
during the installation it doesn’t format the full disk which is 3TB.




Could someone suggest another disk partitioning utility (other than  
fdisk) please?




Thanks



Rajeev R. Veedu

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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

2007-09-23 Thread John R Pierce

William L. Maltby wrote:

IIRC, sector size is controlled at the hardware level(used to be set
with jumpers and/or low-level format programs?). I seem to recall that
new drives don't really have sectors anymore, but have supporting
circuits/(EE)proms that emulate that?
  


no, sectors are still 512 bytes (plus ECC and header info) on the 
physical disk.  its the 'heads' and 'cylinders' that are abstracted.  
there's still heads and cylinders, its just that different zones of the 
disk have differing sector/track counts.



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