Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd no longer working

2009-05-16 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Stewart Williams
 wrote:
> I recently enabled yum-updatesd on two identical servers and configured
> it to notify me of updates via e-mail.
>
> This worked fine to start with and it notified me on both machines when
> the kernel-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5.x86_64.rpm update was released last week.
>
> However, today I realised that yum-updatesd was not running and thought
> it was due to rebooting after the kernel update and that I'd forgotten
> to set it to start at boot.

In the NSA guide for hardening RHEL 5, they recommend disabling
yum-updatesd and replacing it with a cron job that calls yum directly.
They do not consider yum-updatesd mature enough for enterprise
servers. This is in Chapter 2, on Page 16.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd version in reports?

2009-01-09 Thread partha chowdhury
Amos Shapira wrote:

> But I don't see anywhere in its config or command line options a way to 
> find which package version was replaced by which.
> 

this is just my guess but as yum-updatesd uses yum so the log should be 
in the logfile directed by yum.conf namely /var/log/yum.log.
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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-12 Thread Alexander Farber
Thank you all, I'll go with yum service

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Barry Brimer  wrote:
> chkconfig yum on
> service yum start
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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-11 Thread
Alexander Farber napsal(a):
> However we have few machines running CentOS 4.7
> which we can't upgrade to 5 (because of Oracle 9 etc.)
> 
> Is there some similar service available?
> 
> Or has anybody experience in putting "yum -y update"
> into crontab for  CentOS 4? Any good advices?
> 

Hi Alexander,
I'm running yum 3.0.6 on my 4.7 boxes. I have plans to create dbus
client emitting messages via xml-rpc to Cacti. See
http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb/testing/i386/repodata/repoview/Y.group.html
Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
>> Barry Brimer wrote:
>>> chkconfig yum on
>>> service yum start
>> yum-cron ?
> 
> yum-cron is available for CentOS-4 ???

rpm -ql yum | grep cron


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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-11 Thread William L. Maltby

On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 14:24 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> > Barry Brimer wrote:
> >> chkconfig yum on
> >> service yum start
> >
> > yum-cron ?
> 
> yum-cron is available for CentOS-4 ???

Just run a yum available for all my repos. No yum-cron is shown.

> 
> Akemi
> 

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-11 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> Barry Brimer wrote:
>> chkconfig yum on
>> service yum start
>
> yum-cron ?

yum-cron is available for CentOS-4 ???

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Barry Brimer wrote:
> chkconfig yum on
> service yum start

yum-cron ?


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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd or similar for CentOS 4

2008-12-11 Thread Barry Brimer

> However we have few machines running CentOS 4.7
> which we can't upgrade to 5 (because of Oracle 9 etc.)
>
> Is there some similar service available?
>
> Or has anybody experience in putting "yum -y update"
> into crontab for  CentOS 4? Any good advices?

chkconfig yum on
service yum start
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RE: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-14 Thread Josh Donovan
Bob Hoffman wrote:
> The default setting is every hour. Checking for an update at least once a
> day is not bad as a bug fix can come in at anytime. I would think that is
> very important for the server.

Is CentOS your first introduction to Linux? You may need to cut your teeth
upstream on Fedora (a cutting edge product) as it changes frequently and
has tons of updates. With an Enterprise distro the aim is stability to run
mission critical servers.

With the latest and greatest distro (Fedora), the aim is to roll out tons
of updates and have you test them out.

Thanks,
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RE: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-13 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
> > This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.
> > TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
> > Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
> > Extra: send a mail or add to log file
> 
> Isn't that overkill for an enterprise distro? Subscribing to 
> the relevant mailing list should help shouldn't it? 
> Not even considering the potential load on the CentOS 
> servers, shouldn't an admin test updates without letting yum 
> auto-update? Updates do have issues too.

The default setting is every hour. Checking for an update at least once a
day is not bad as a bug fix can come in at anytime. I would think that is
very important for the server.

As for updates with issues, so far none, but I guess they will happen. I
slimmed down my system, and continue to do so, in the hopes that the less
stuff running, the less problems updating.

So far though, no problems with any update so far.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-13 Thread Josh Donovan
Bob Hoffman wrote:

> This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.
> TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
> Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
> Extra: send a mail or add to log file

Isn't that overkill for an enterprise distro? Subscribing
to the relevant mailing list should help shouldn't it? 
Not even considering the potential load on the CentOS 
servers, shouldn't an admin test updates without letting
yum auto-update? Updates do have issues too.

Thanks,
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RE: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
I read somewhere, that one of the issues was choking on sending emails..due
to sending to nobody account.
I guess I will have to wait and look for errors.
I do know that it was always on and had never told me there was an update
available when logging in as root.
> 
> below is my configuration of /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf that 
> works on Fedora 8
> 
> # cat /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
> [main]
> # how often to check for new updates (in seconds) 
> run_interval = 3600 # how often to allow checking on request 
> (in seconds) updaterefresh = 600
> 
> # how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog) 
> emit_via = syslog
> 
> # automatically install updates
> do_update = yes
> # automatically download updates
> do_download = yes
> # automatically download deps of updates do_download_deps = yes
> 
> (I never tried e-mail notifications)
> 
> Craig
> 
os

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Re: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:15 -0400, Bob Hoffman wrote:
> Finsihing my server set up..
> Yum-updatesd
> 
> This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.
> 
> TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
> Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
> Extra: send a mail or add to log file
> 
> This is the centos original file and my suggested changes.
> If anyone uses this, do you have something similar?
> 
> [main]
> # how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
> run_interval = 3600 (gonna change to 86400 for 24 hours)
> 
> # how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
> updaterefresh = 600 (leave as is)
> 
> # how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
> emit_via = dbus (change to email, defaults to root I believe)
> 
> # should we listen via dbus to give out update information/check for
> # new updates 
> dbus_listener = yes (assume no?)
> 
> # automatically install updates
> do_update = no (change to yes)
> 
> # automatically download updates
> do_download = no (change to yes)
> 
> # automatically download deps of updates
> do_download_deps = no (change to yes)
> 
> 
> I am not sure about the dbus listener. The documentation, yum wiki, or the
> man pages were not telling me anything.

yum-updatesd...I never got it to work in Fedora 7 but it does work in
Fedora 8. I recall a discussion a few months ago that it didn't actually
work in CentOS-5 but perhaps the 5.2 update actually made it work...I
simply don't know.

below is my configuration of /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf that works on
Fedora 8

# cat /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
[main]
# how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
run_interval = 3600
# how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
updaterefresh = 600

# how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
emit_via = syslog

# automatically install updates
do_update = yes
# automatically download updates
do_download = yes
# automatically download deps of updates
do_download_deps = yes

(I never tried e-mail notifications)

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-14 Thread John Horne
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 17:42 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 12:12 +0200, Santi Saez wrote:
> > 
> > So, appears that yum-updatesd can download, notify and install  
> > updates.. but none of this works on a fresh CentOS 5.2 :-(
> > 
Well I tested this on Centos 5.1 and 5.2, as well as Fedora 9. It does
seem to work. For CentOS 5.2 I simply installed the scim-docs RPM, which
we do not usually have installed but it does have an update waiting.
Having configured yum-updatesd to do an automatic update in 15 mins, I
then just left it. After 15 mins it had applied the update. So it
worked.

In my case the problem is that I have configured yum-updatesd for
notifications by syslog. It seems that the syslog option only works when
updates are 'available'. If you ask for them to be automatically
updated, or if an error occurs, then nothing is logged. (If you use the
email option then you get the errors or update count as a mail message.)
On my 5.1 systems, we have modified yum.conf to exclude the kernel and
glibc packages from updating - we prefer to do those manually. However,
this then means that when yum-updatesd runs, to update the system to
centos 5.2, it gets a dependency error because of our excluded packages.
As mentioned above, using syslog this is not logged at all. (Taking out
the exclusions, and configuring yum-updatesd not to do updates, and I
then correctly get a syslog message that 239 updates are available.)

I have created a patch to the /usr/libexec/yum-updatesd-helper file
which I will log in to the RedHat bugzilla tonight. (I want to check
things on my F9 PC at home before submitting the bugzilla log.) The
patch logs errors and the number of applied updates when using syslog.
Tested, and it works fine (it was how I found out about the missing
dependencies on our 5.1 server).

So, perhaps not much help to the OP I'm afraid, but it sorted out what I
think is a bug (with the syslog option).



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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-11 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 12:12 +0200, Santi Saez wrote:
> 
> So, appears that yum-updatesd can download, notify and install  
> updates.. but none of this works on a fresh CentOS 5.2 :-(
> 
> I will try yum-cron.. but I'm also interested in testing yum- 
> updatesd, none is using it? there's no patch to solve this? Thanks..
> 
Hi,

We use yum-updatesd on CentOS 5.1, 5.2 and Fedora systems. I have to
admit that I have a 5.1 server sitting here telling me that it has a
whole load of patches to install (the 5.2 updates), and I just didn't
associate it with yum-updatesd not installing them. Like you we have
configured yum-updatesd to do automatic installs, although we exclude
things like the kernel for manual updating.

Anyway. I've currently set yum-updatesd to do a check every 15mins (900
seconds) on one server. I'll look and see if there is anything obvious
as to why it doesn't do the updates.

I could see nothing about this on the RedHat bugzilla (no bugs reported
for yum-updatesd at all under Fedora 9). I may test that tonight at
home.



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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-08 Thread MHR
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:12 AM, Santi Saez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Dear Johnny,
>

Oh, no!  A "Dear Johnny" letter!  Waaah!

(SCNR :-)

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-08 Thread Santi Saez


El 07/07/2008, a las 16:51, Johnny Hughes escribió:


Santi Saez wrote:

Dear Srs,
yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5 appears that it's not working on freshly  
installed CentOS 5.2, using:

# rpm -qa "yum*"
yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-2.el5
yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5
yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1
yum-fastestmirror-1.1.10-9.el5.centos
I see some bugs ([1], [2] and [3]) in the bug tracker, and more  
info related to other distros like Fedora, etc.. with the same  
problem.
yum-updatesd does not automatically update in CentOS 5.2, is there  
any patch for this? anyone using this daemon for Yum?

This is the configuration file:
# grep -v "#" /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
[main]
run_interval = 60
updaterefresh = 60
emit_via = email
email_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do_update = yes
do_download = yes
do_download_deps = yes
Regards,
[1] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2039
[2] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2592
[3] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2560


yum-updatesd does not install updates, it tells you they are  
available.


yum-cron (or a batch file you create with a 'yum -y upgrade' )  
would be needed to actually upgrade the system.


Dear Johnny,

According to "man 5 yum-updatesd.conf":

(..)
   do_update
  Boolean option to decide whether or not updates should  
be automatically applied.  Defaults to False.


   do_download
  Boolean option to decide whether or not updates should  
be automatically downloaded.  Defaults to False.

(..)

So, appears that yum-updatesd can download, notify and install  
updates.. but none of this works on a fresh CentOS 5.2 :-(


I will try yum-cron.. but I'm also interested in testing yum- 
updatesd, none is using it? there's no patch to solve this? Thanks..


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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-07 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:10 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 09:51 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> Santi Saez wrote:
> >>> Dear Srs,
> >>>
> >>> yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5 appears that it's not working on freshly 
> >>> installed CentOS 5.2, using:
> >>>
> >>> # rpm -qa "yum*"
> >>> yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-2.el5
> >>> yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5
> >>> yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1
> >>> yum-fastestmirror-1.1.10-9.el5.centos
> >>>
> >>> I see some bugs ([1], [2] and [3]) in the bug tracker, and more info 
> >>> related to other distros like Fedora, etc.. with the same problem.
> >>>
> >>> yum-updatesd does not automatically update in CentOS 5.2, is there any 
> >>> patch for this? anyone using this daemon for Yum?
> >>>
> >>> This is the configuration file:
> >>>
> >>> # grep -v "#" /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
> >>> [main]
> >>> run_interval = 60
> >>> updaterefresh = 60
> >>> emit_via = email
> >>> email_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> email_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> do_update = yes
> >>> do_download = yes
> >>> do_download_deps = yes
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2039
> >>> [2] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2592
> >>> [3] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2560
> >> yum-updatesd does not install updates, it tells you they are available.
> >>
> >> yum-cron (or a batch file you create with a 'yum -y upgrade' ) would be 
> >> needed to actually upgrade the system.
> > 
> > FWIW Johnny...on Fedora yum-updatesd does indeed automatically install
> > updates if configured as above (not the default).
> 
> And it probably SHOULD work in CentOS too ... but it doesn't.
> 
> We will probably look at it at some point ... but yumcron  was included 
> since it is currently broken.

I should have noted that I never could get yum-updatesd to automatically
update a system until Fedora 8. It never worked in Fedora 7.

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-07 Thread Johnny Hughes

Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 09:51 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:

Santi Saez wrote:

Dear Srs,

yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5 appears that it's not working on freshly 
installed CentOS 5.2, using:


# rpm -qa "yum*"
yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-2.el5
yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5
yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1
yum-fastestmirror-1.1.10-9.el5.centos

I see some bugs ([1], [2] and [3]) in the bug tracker, and more info 
related to other distros like Fedora, etc.. with the same problem.


yum-updatesd does not automatically update in CentOS 5.2, is there any 
patch for this? anyone using this daemon for Yum?


This is the configuration file:

# grep -v "#" /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
[main]
run_interval = 60
updaterefresh = 60
emit_via = email
email_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do_update = yes
do_download = yes
do_download_deps = yes

Regards,

[1] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2039
[2] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2592
[3] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2560

yum-updatesd does not install updates, it tells you they are available.

yum-cron (or a batch file you create with a 'yum -y upgrade' ) would be 
needed to actually upgrade the system.


FWIW Johnny...on Fedora yum-updatesd does indeed automatically install
updates if configured as above (not the default).


And it probably SHOULD work in CentOS too ... but it doesn't.

We will probably look at it at some point ... but yumcron  was included 
since it is currently broken.




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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-07 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 09:51 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Santi Saez wrote:
> > 
> > Dear Srs,
> > 
> > yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5 appears that it's not working on freshly 
> > installed CentOS 5.2, using:
> > 
> > # rpm -qa "yum*"
> > yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-2.el5
> > yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5
> > yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1
> > yum-fastestmirror-1.1.10-9.el5.centos
> > 
> > I see some bugs ([1], [2] and [3]) in the bug tracker, and more info 
> > related to other distros like Fedora, etc.. with the same problem.
> > 
> > yum-updatesd does not automatically update in CentOS 5.2, is there any 
> > patch for this? anyone using this daemon for Yum?
> > 
> > This is the configuration file:
> > 
> > # grep -v "#" /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
> > [main]
> > run_interval = 60
> > updaterefresh = 60
> > emit_via = email
> > email_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > email_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > do_update = yes
> > do_download = yes
> > do_download_deps = yes
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > [1] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2039
> > [2] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2592
> > [3] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2560
> 
> yum-updatesd does not install updates, it tells you they are available.
> 
> yum-cron (or a batch file you create with a 'yum -y upgrade' ) would be 
> needed to actually upgrade the system.

FWIW Johnny...on Fedora yum-updatesd does indeed automatically install
updates if configured as above (not the default).

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd not working on CentOS 5.2

2008-07-07 Thread Johnny Hughes

Santi Saez wrote:


Dear Srs,

yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5 appears that it's not working on freshly 
installed CentOS 5.2, using:


# rpm -qa "yum*"
yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-2.el5
yum-updatesd-0.9-2.el5
yum-3.2.8-9.el5.centos.2.1
yum-fastestmirror-1.1.10-9.el5.centos

I see some bugs ([1], [2] and [3]) in the bug tracker, and more info 
related to other distros like Fedora, etc.. with the same problem.


yum-updatesd does not automatically update in CentOS 5.2, is there any 
patch for this? anyone using this daemon for Yum?


This is the configuration file:

# grep -v "#" /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
[main]
run_interval = 60
updaterefresh = 60
emit_via = email
email_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do_update = yes
do_download = yes
do_download_deps = yes

Regards,

[1] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2039
[2] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2592
[3] http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2560


yum-updatesd does not install updates, it tells you they are available.

yum-cron (or a batch file you create with a 'yum -y upgrade' ) would be 
needed to actually upgrade the system.




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