Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.]

On 01/28/2013 02:48 AM, Toralf Lund wrote:
> On 27/01/13 07:13, SilverTip257 wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Giles Coochey  wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>>
 Hi.

 Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
 panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
 On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided by
 the Fedora "EPEL" distribution, but this is gone from the version 6
 repository, and the one from version 5 won't install just like that due
 to dependency issues. Maybe it's possible to resolve those, but I'm
 wondering if that's the way to go, or if there is a better alternative
 these days.



>>> In the old days we used biff... then xbiff came along... new fangled
>>> things!
>>>
>>> Something like: 
>>> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~**cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py
>>>
>>> Don't some MUAs come with small panel applets for this?
>>>
>>>
>> @Toralf:
>>
>> I have Evolution Mail on my work desktop (not CentOS) set to display
>> pop-ups (using libnotify).  I don't recall though if I had to do anything
>> more than click a check box in Evolution's preferences.
>>
>> You might consider having your MUA do the notifying rather than having an
>> applet go check your inbox for you.
> I'm mostly using thunderbird for e-mail, and it actually also supports
> notification via pop-ups. But:
>
>   1. I think it's nice to be able to close the application completely
>  when not working on e-mail.
>   2. "Global" popups are generally annoying/too obtrusive. A small icon
>  that changes state is much better.
>
> - Toralf
>
>
>
>>
>>> It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are using
>>> remote mail servers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Giles Coochey, CCNA, CCNAS
>>> NetSecSpec Ltd
>>> +44 (0) 7983 877438
>>> http://www.coochey.net
>>> http://www.netsecspec.co.uk
>>> gi...@coochey.net
>>>
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I'm going to follow this thread carefully, as I too would like to change 
the properties of my notifications!


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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[Toralf Lund]

On 29/01/13 16:22, Toralf Lund wrote:

On 28/01/13 14:18, SilverTip257 wrote:

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Toralf Lund   wrote:


On 27/01/13 07:13, SilverTip257 wrote:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Giles Coochey

   wrote:

On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:


Hi.

Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided

[ ... ]

You might consider having your MUA do the notifying rather than having an
applet go check your inbox for you.
I'm mostly using thunderbird for e-mail, and it actually also supports
notification via pop-ups. But:

   1. I think it's nice to be able to close the application completely
  when not working on e-mail.


I hear you! ;)



   2. "Global" popups are generally annoying/too obtrusive. A small icon
  that changes state is much better.


Understandable.

http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/
I'm guessing this is what you've used in the past.

Actually, what I used on CentOS 5 was the below mentioned software.

Which is really the same as the one referenced above, I now notice ;-)

I've now managed to build my own rpm for this, by combining the last 
source code release from the above, the spec file from the EPEL 5 source 
rpm, a bit of trial, and let's not forget, a fair amount of error, too. 
I'll try to attach the spec file...


- Toralf





Before that, i.e. on EL 4, I believe something else was included in the
main distro, but I don't remember what.


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/mail-notification
Even though the package is listed it appears nobody has packaged it in EPEL
(for example).
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/i386/repoview/letter_m.group.html

Well, it is actually included in EPEL 5, but not 6.


Not as simple, but you might consider building it on your system.

I tried both binary and source rpms from EPEL5, but it didn't work too
well. Actually, the problem wasn't mail-notification itself, but rather
eel2, which it requires. This used to be part of the main distribution,
but isn't any more. Binaries from past versions have dependencies that
are hard to resolve, and an attempt to rebuild from source rpm failed
with the below error messages. Maybe I can find away around this, but I
don't have time to try right now...

test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_child_pressed_callback':
test-eel-image-table.c:126: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c:126: error: (Each undeclared identifier is
reported only once
test-eel-image-table.c:126: error: for each function it appears in.)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_child_released_callback':
test-eel-image-table.c:141: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_child_clicked_callback':
test-eel-image-table.c:156: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'foo_timeout':
test-eel-image-table.c:167: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_size_allocate':
test-eel-image-table.c:195: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first
use in this function)

- Toralf



- Toralf




It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are

using

remote mail servers.

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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[Toralf Lund]

On 28/01/13 14:18, SilverTip257 wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Toralf Lund  wrote:
>
>> On 27/01/13 07:13, SilverTip257 wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Giles Coochey
>>   wrote:
 On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
> panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
> On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided
[ ... ]
>>
>> You might consider having your MUA do the notifying rather than having an
>> applet go check your inbox for you.
>> I'm mostly using thunderbird for e-mail, and it actually also supports
>> notification via pop-ups. But:
>>
>>   1. I think it's nice to be able to close the application completely
>>  when not working on e-mail.
>>
> I hear you! ;)
>
>
>>   2. "Global" popups are generally annoying/too obtrusive. A small icon
>>  that changes state is much better.
>>
> Understandable.
>
> http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/
> I'm guessing this is what you've used in the past.
Actually, what I used on CentOS 5 was the below mentioned software. 
Before that, i.e. on EL 4, I believe something else was included in the 
main distro, but I don't remember what.

>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/mail-notification
> Even though the package is listed it appears nobody has packaged it in EPEL
> (for example).
> http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/i386/repoview/letter_m.group.html
Well, it is actually included in EPEL 5, but not 6.

>
> Not as simple, but you might consider building it on your system.
I tried both binary and source rpms from EPEL5, but it didn't work too 
well. Actually, the problem wasn't mail-notification itself, but rather 
eel2, which it requires. This used to be part of the main distribution, 
but isn't any more. Binaries from past versions have dependencies that 
are hard to resolve, and an attempt to rebuild from source rpm failed 
with the below error messages. Maybe I can find away around this, but I 
don't have time to try right now...

test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_child_pressed_callback':
test-eel-image-table.c:126: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c:126: error: (Each undeclared identifier is 
reported only once
test-eel-image-table.c:126: error: for each function it appears in.)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_child_released_callback':
test-eel-image-table.c:141: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_child_clicked_callback':
test-eel-image-table.c:156: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'foo_timeout':
test-eel-image-table.c:167: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
test-eel-image-table.c: In function 'image_table_size_allocate':
test-eel-image-table.c:195: error: 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' undeclared (first 
use in this function)

- Toralf


>
>> - Toralf
>>
>>
>>
>>>
 It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are
>> using
 remote mail servers.

 --
 Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[SilverTip257]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Toralf Lund  wrote:

> On 27/01/13 07:13, SilverTip257 wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Giles Coochey
>  wrote:
> >
> >> On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
> >>> panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
> >>> On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided
> by
> >>> the Fedora "EPEL" distribution, but this is gone from the version 6
> >>> repository, and the one from version 5 won't install just like that due
> >>> to dependency issues. Maybe it's possible to resolve those, but I'm
> >>> wondering if that's the way to go, or if there is a better alternative
> >>> these days.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> In the old days we used biff... then xbiff came along... new fangled
> >> things!
> >>
> >> Something like:
> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~**cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py<
> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py>
> >>
> >> Don't some MUAs come with small panel applets for this?
> >>
> >>
> > @Toralf:
> >
> > I have Evolution Mail on my work desktop (not CentOS) set to display
> > pop-ups (using libnotify).  I don't recall though if I had to do anything
> > more than click a check box in Evolution's preferences.
> >
> > You might consider having your MUA do the notifying rather than having an
> > applet go check your inbox for you.
> I'm mostly using thunderbird for e-mail, and it actually also supports
> notification via pop-ups. But:
>
>  1. I think it's nice to be able to close the application completely
> when not working on e-mail.
>

I hear you! ;)


>  2. "Global" popups are generally annoying/too obtrusive. A small icon
> that changes state is much better.
>

Understandable.

http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/
I'm guessing this is what you've used in the past.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/mail-notification
Even though the package is listed it appears nobody has packaged it in EPEL
(for example).
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/i386/repoview/letter_m.group.html


Not as simple, but you might consider building it on your system.


>
> - Toralf
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >> It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are
> using
> >> remote mail servers.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Giles Coochey, CCNA, CCNAS
> >> NetSecSpec Ltd
> >> +44 (0) 7983 877438
> >> http://www.coochey.net
> >> http://www.netsecspec.co.uk
> >> gi...@coochey.net
> >>
> >>
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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[Toralf Lund]

On 27/01/13 07:13, SilverTip257 wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Giles Coochey  wrote:
>
>> On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
>>> panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
>>> On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided by
>>> the Fedora "EPEL" distribution, but this is gone from the version 6
>>> repository, and the one from version 5 won't install just like that due
>>> to dependency issues. Maybe it's possible to resolve those, but I'm
>>> wondering if that's the way to go, or if there is a better alternative
>>> these days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> In the old days we used biff... then xbiff came along... new fangled
>> things!
>>
>> Something like: 
>> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~**cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py
>>
>> Don't some MUAs come with small panel applets for this?
>>
>>
> @Toralf:
>
> I have Evolution Mail on my work desktop (not CentOS) set to display
> pop-ups (using libnotify).  I don't recall though if I had to do anything
> more than click a check box in Evolution's preferences.
>
> You might consider having your MUA do the notifying rather than having an
> applet go check your inbox for you.
I'm mostly using thunderbird for e-mail, and it actually also supports 
notification via pop-ups. But:

 1. I think it's nice to be able to close the application completely
when not working on e-mail.
 2. "Global" popups are generally annoying/too obtrusive. A small icon
that changes state is much better.

- Toralf



>
>
>> It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are using
>> remote mail servers.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Giles Coochey, CCNA, CCNAS
>> NetSecSpec Ltd
>> +44 (0) 7983 877438
>> http://www.coochey.net
>> http://www.netsecspec.co.uk
>> gi...@coochey.net
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[Toralf Lund]

On 25/01/13 16:10, Giles Coochey wrote:
> On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
>> panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
>> On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided by
>> the Fedora "EPEL" distribution, but this is gone from the version 6
>> repository, and the one from version 5 won't install just like that due
>> to dependency issues. Maybe it's possible to resolve those, but I'm
>> wondering if that's the way to go, or if there is a better alternative
>> these days.
>>
>>
>
> In the old days we used biff... then xbiff came along... new fangled 
> things!
>
> Something like: http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py
>
> Don't some MUAs come with small panel applets for this?
>
> It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are 
> using remote mail servers.
I don't really receive locally; mail-notification and other "advanced" 
notifiers of the past support contacting remote servers via IMAP or similar.

- Toralf

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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[SilverTip257]

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Giles Coochey  wrote:

> On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
>> panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
>> On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided by
>> the Fedora "EPEL" distribution, but this is gone from the version 6
>> repository, and the one from version 5 won't install just like that due
>> to dependency issues. Maybe it's possible to resolve those, but I'm
>> wondering if that's the way to go, or if there is a better alternative
>> these days.
>>
>>
>>
> In the old days we used biff... then xbiff came along... new fangled
> things!
>
> Something like: 
> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~**cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py
>
> Don't some MUAs come with small panel applets for this?
>
>
@Toralf:

I have Evolution Mail on my work desktop (not CentOS) set to display
pop-ups (using libnotify).  I don't recall though if I had to do anything
more than click a check box in Evolution's preferences.

You might consider having your MUA do the notifying rather than having an
applet go check your inbox for you.


> It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are using
> remote mail servers.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Giles Coochey, CCNA, CCNAS
> NetSecSpec Ltd
> +44 (0) 7983 877438
> http://www.coochey.net
> http://www.netsecspec.co.uk
> gi...@coochey.net
>
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Re: [CentOS] Mail notification in panel/system tray on CentOS 6

[Giles Coochey]

On 25/01/2013 15:00, Toralf Lund wrote:

Hi.

Does anyone know of a way to add a "new mail" notification icon to the
panel/system tray under CentOS 6?
On CentOS 5, I used the "mail-notification" software package provided by
the Fedora "EPEL" distribution, but this is gone from the version 6
repository, and the one from version 5 won't install just like that due
to dependency issues. Maybe it's possible to resolve those, but I'm
wondering if that's the way to go, or if there is a better alternative
these days.




In the old days we used biff... then xbiff came along... new fangled things!

Something like: http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~cmsps/freeScripts/xbiff.py

Don't some MUAs come with small panel applets for this?

It isn't so common to receive email locally anymore, most people are 
using remote mail servers.


--
Regards,

Giles Coochey, CCNA, CCNAS
NetSecSpec Ltd
+44 (0) 7983 877438
http://www.coochey.net
http://www.netsecspec.co.uk
gi...@coochey.net


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