Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 09:36:35PM +0600, Sergey Podushkin wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also which Fedora version was the basis for this? Version of anaconda is tightly linked to Fedora version, so it's based on Fedora 13, because it use anaconda-13. RHEL6 Anaconda was forked from Fedora 13 anaconda tree in January, 4 (?) months before F13 release. So it's not the same as Fedora 13 anaconda. -- Pasi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 01:06 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 10.11.10 23:54, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/ Great! Now I know what to look for I can put the right search string into google to get this page! Well that has the information I was looking for except It says there that RHEL 5's minimum memory is 512Mb. Last week I installed Centos 5.5 on a test system with 256Mb with a 1Gb of cache: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:254124 235864 18260 0 5952 97668 -/+ buffers/cache: 132244 121880 Swap: 1052248 151876 900372 So I hope that Centos 6 will continue to be installable on a 256Mb system. It does not pay to replace the memory on these test systems. I can pick up 1Gb used SFF systems for about the same price as 512Mb memory for these old boxes. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
John R. Dennison wrote: I think it's a fair bet to say it will be at least 4-6 weeks out. When it comes, will I be able to upgrade by sudo yum update? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 02:57:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: John R. Dennison wrote: I think it's a fair bet to say it will be at least 4-6 weeks out. When it comes, will I be able to upgrade by sudo yum update? You can try. :) There is, in the RH docs, an upgrade path mentioned, however, even they don't seem to have much faith in it. Their recommendation is to use the DVD choosing the Upgrade option. There are going to be some MAJOR changes, including a jump from 2.6.18 kernel to 2.6.30-something, changes in glibc, and so on. So while some people may successfully upgrade, I suspect that most will be doing a backup and reinstall. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 02:57:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: When it comes, will I be able to upgrade by sudo yum update? You can try. :) Having done several upgrades from CentOS 4 to CentOS 5, my recommendation would be to not even try it. There is all kinds of ugliness left over that has to be cleaned up; I did it in the end, but it took a lot longer than doing a clean install. Steve Steve Thompson E-mail: smt AT vgersoft DOT com Voyager Software LLC Web: http://www DOT vgersoft DOT com 39 Smugglers Path VSW Support: support AT vgersoft DOT com Ithaca, NY 14850 186,300 miles per second: it's not just a good idea, it's the law ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:13:16AM -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 02:57:58PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: When it comes, will I be able to upgrade by sudo yum update? You can try. :) Having done several upgrades from CentOS 4 to CentOS 5, my recommendation would be to not even try it. There is all kinds of ugliness left over that has to be cleaned up; I did it in the end, but it took a lot longer than doing a clean install. You're a braver man than I am. Here's the RH link for the --hrrm, what's the opposite of faint at heart, dark of heart? Deep contrast of heart? Bright of heart? Loud of heart? (Wrong faint). Anyway http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ch-upgrade-x86.html -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Drusilla: How do you feel about eternal life? Xander: We couldn't just start with coffee? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
2010/11/11 Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com: Having done several upgrades from CentOS 4 to CentOS 5, my recommendation would be to not even try it. There is all kinds of ugliness left over that has to be cleaned up; I did it in the end, but it took a lot longer than doing a clean install. That's the point. The cost to upgrade is probably higher than a clean installation. It has changed so much between RHEL5 and RHEL6. I recommend everyone a clean installation. Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 09:23 AM, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: 2010/11/11 Steve Thompsons...@vgersoft.com: Having done several upgrades from CentOS 4 to CentOS 5, my recommendation would be to not even try it. There is all kinds of ugliness left over that has to be cleaned up; I did it in the end, but it took a lot longer than doing a clean install. That's the point. The cost to upgrade is probably higher than a clean installation. It has changed so much between RHEL5 and RHEL6. I recommend everyone a clean installation. I think the only 'clean' upgrade I had was Centos 5.2 - 5.3 and that happened by accident! I have always taken the path to rsync all valuable stuff over to another box, do a clean install, then move stuff back. I have a set of instructions on 'customizing' for each of my systems to follow. I just added a 1.5Tb USB drive on one system that I am now using for the rsync destination. I figure that when I need to update the system it is normally on, I can move it to another system... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also which Fedora version was the basis for this? Version of anaconda is tightly linked to Fedora version, so it's based on Fedora 13, because it use anaconda-13. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Thursday, November 11, 2010 09:57:58 am Timothy Murphy wrote: John R. Dennison wrote: I think it's a fair bet to say it will be at least 4-6 weeks out. When it comes, will I be able to upgrade by sudo yum update? Given that the upstream sources from which CentOS 5 was originally built are Fedora Core 6 vintage, it would be like trying to go from Fedora 6 to Fedora 12+ in one fell swoop. I don't even upgrade from one Fedora to the next (or one Debian or Ubuntu, either, as I've seen that break badly before). I keep my data on a separate partition (or multiple separate partitions in the case of servers) and do fresh reinstalls, mounting my data back in the right place once done. On my laptop, I'm still running the same /home that I ran in RedHatLinux 7 beta days ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Am 11.11.10 15:53, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/11/2010 01:06 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 10.11.10 23:54, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/ Great! Now I know what to look for I can put the right search string into google to get this page! Well that has the information I was looking for except It says there that RHEL 5's minimum memory is 512Mb. Last week I installed Centos 5.5 on a test system with 256Mb with a 1Gb of cache: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:254124 235864 18260 0 5952 97668 -/+ buffers/cache: 132244 121880 Swap: 1052248 151876 900372 So I hope that Centos 6 will continue to be installable on a 256Mb system. It does not pay to replace the memory on these test systems. I can pick up 1Gb used SFF systems for about the same price as 512Mb memory for these old boxes. I just tried to install RH EL 6 on a virtual mashine with 256 MB. Just after the installer boots it says 'You do not have enough RAM to install ' /Götz -- Götz Reinicke IT-Koordinator Tel. +49 7141 969 420 Fax +49 7141 969 55 420 E-Mail goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg GmbH Akademiehof 10 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de Eintragung Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 205016 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. Claudia Hübner Geschäftsführer: Prof. Thomas Schadt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Is it an x86_64 install? I had a problem with Xen last year under 5.x whereby I had to increase the VM's memory footprint to 512 MB On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 11.11.10 15:53, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/11/2010 01:06 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 10.11.10 23:54, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/ Great! Now I know what to look for I can put the right search string into google to get this page! Well that has the information I was looking for except It says there that RHEL 5's minimum memory is 512Mb. Last week I installed Centos 5.5 on a test system with 256Mb with a 1Gb of cache: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:254124 235864 18260 0 5952 97668 -/+ buffers/cache: 132244 121880 Swap: 1052248 151876 900372 So I hope that Centos 6 will continue to be installable on a 256Mb system. It does not pay to replace the memory on these test systems. I can pick up 1Gb used SFF systems for about the same price as 512Mb memory for these old boxes. I just tried to install RH EL 6 on a virtual mashine with 256 MB. Just after the installer boots it says 'You do not have enough RAM to install ' /Götz -- Scot P. Floess RHCT (Certificate Number 605010084735240) Chief Architect FlossWare http://sourceforge.net/projects/flossware http://flossware.sourceforge.net https://github.com/organizations/FlossWare Chief Architect JPlate http://sourceforge.net/projects/jplate Chief Architect JavaPIMhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/javapim Chief Architect Keros http://sourceforge.net/projects/keros___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 9:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Having done several upgrades from CentOS 4 to CentOS 5, my recommendation would be to not even try it. There is all kinds of ugliness left over that has to be cleaned up; I did it in the end, but it took a lot longer than doing a clean install. That's the point. The cost to upgrade is probably higher than a clean installation. It has changed so much between RHEL5 and RHEL6. I recommend everyone a clean installation. I think the only 'clean' upgrade I had was Centos 5.2 - 5.3 and that happened by accident! Errr, you should be able to 'yum update' any 5.x to any other with few surprises. Did you mean 4.2 as the starting point there? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Yeah - try to bump up the memory to 512 MB... As I recall, that fixed my issues as well... On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 11.11.10 17:17, schrieb Scot P. Floess: Is it an x86_64 install? I had a problem with Xen last year under 5.x whereby I had to increase the VM's memory footprint to 512 MB On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 11.11.10 15:53, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/11/2010 01:06 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 10.11.10 23:54, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/ Great! Now I know what to look for I can put the right search string into google to get this page! Well that has the information I was looking for except It says there that RHEL 5's minimum memory is 512Mb. Last week I installed Centos 5.5 on a test system with 256Mb with a 1Gb of cache: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:254124 235864 18260 0 5952 97668 -/+ buffers/cache: 132244 121880 Swap: 1052248 151876 900372 So I hope that Centos 6 will continue to be installable on a 256Mb system. It does not pay to replace the memory on these test systems. I can pick up 1Gb used SFF systems for about the same price as 512Mb memory for these old boxes. I just tried to install RH EL 6 on a virtual mashine with 256 MB. Just after the installer boots it says 'You do not have enough RAM to install ' /Götz Yes it is an x86_64 I tried. /götz -- Scot P. Floess RHCT (Certificate Number 605010084735240) Chief Architect FlossWare http://sourceforge.net/projects/flossware http://flossware.sourceforge.net https://github.com/organizations/FlossWare Chief Architect JPlate http://sourceforge.net/projects/jplate Chief Architect JavaPIMhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/javapim Chief Architect Keros http://sourceforge.net/projects/keros___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 04:46 PM, Scot P. Floess wrote: Yeah - try to bump up the memory to 512 MB... As I recall, that fixed my issues as well... What are the chances that you might consider not top posting, and trimming your replies so as to not carry the whole thread with it ? - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 10:10 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 11.11.10 15:53, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/11/2010 01:06 AM, Götz Reinicke - IT-Koordinator wrote: Am 10.11.10 23:54, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/ Great! Now I know what to look for I can put the right search string into google to get this page! Well that has the information I was looking for except It says there that RHEL 5's minimum memory is 512Mb. Last week I installed Centos 5.5 on a test system with 256Mb with a 1Gb of cache: # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:254124 235864 18260 0 5952 97668 -/+ buffers/cache: 132244 121880 Swap: 1052248 151876 900372 So I hope that Centos 6 will continue to be installable on a 256Mb system. It does not pay to replace the memory on these test systems. I can pick up 1Gb used SFF systems for about the same price as 512Mb memory for these old boxes. I just tried to install RH EL 6 on a virtual mashine with 256 MB. Just after the installer boots it says 'You do not have enough RAM to install ' Given a comment that RHEL 6 is based on FC13, I am going to try installing FC13 on one of my 256 test systems, but I suspect it will be time to send those systems off to the recyclers Maybe someone will take them and put DSL or some such on them. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 10:21 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 11/11/2010 9:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Having done several upgrades from CentOS 4 to CentOS 5, my recommendation would be to not even try it. There is all kinds of ugliness left over that has to be cleaned up; I did it in the end, but it took a lot longer than doing a clean install. That's the point. The cost to upgrade is probably higher than a clean installation. It has changed so much between RHEL5 and RHEL6. I recommend everyone a clean installation. I think the only 'clean' upgrade I had was Centos 5.2 - 5.3 and that happened by accident! Errr, you should be able to 'yum update' any 5.x to any other with few surprises. Did you mean 4.2 as the starting point there? That was so many upgrades back that you might be right! :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/2010 10:55 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I just tried to install RH EL 6 on a virtual mashine with 256 MB. Just after the installer boots it says 'You do not have enough RAM to install ' Given a comment that RHEL 6 is based on FC13, I am going to try installing FC13 on one of my 256 test systems, but I suspect it will be time to send those systems off to the recyclers Maybe someone will take them and put DSL or some such on them. Anything that small can almost certainly be replaced by one of many virtual machines running on more current hardware - if there is any reason to keep it around as a separate host at all. Unless you are testing some specific hardware functionality. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
What are the chances that you might consider not top posting, and trimming your replies so as to not carry the whole thread with it ? Good chance I guess ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/11/10 00:45, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:57:10PM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote: Absolutely. Red Hat does a tremendous amount of heavy lifting to produce RHEL, without which there would be no CentOS. Red Hat also gets paid pretty well to do so, and unless I am mistaken the CentOS team does not. In any case, I appreciate the work of Red Hat and the CentOS team. Remember also that a lot of the original heavy lifting is done in Fedora, which, while sponsored by Red Hat, is very much a community project with significant work done without (direct) pay. So while you're appreciating, don't forget those folks either. :) Ah, but don't forget the upstream folks from Fedora, such as the Kernel guys the Gnome guys, KDE guys etc etc. :-P. They all help make GNU/Linux distributions what they are today :-). And yes, I too would like to thank the CentOS team and everyone else for all their hard work :-). I would help them, and contribute, but aside from money (Which I don't have at the mo :-( ) I fail to see anything I can contribute with effectively :-(. My Fedora 12 is coming to EOL soon, so I must upgrade my Fedora, but I plan to switch to CentOS6 instead :-) Albeit EL doesn't have XFCE (Last time I checked) I can sort that out, and a few other things I can easily fix (make and build custom RPM's for my self) Fedora 12 has become stable like no other Fedora release for me, so I hope that has been carried over into EL6 :-) I'm guessing it has. If not made better :-). Anyhow, once again: Thanks to all the folk that make CentOS/RHEL/Linux what it is today :-) -- Jake ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Jake Shipton wrote: On 11/11/10 00:45, Matthew Miller wrote: My Fedora 12 is coming to EOL soon, so I must upgrade my Fedora, but I plan to switch to CentOS6 instead :-) Albeit EL doesn't have XFCE (Last time I checked) I can sort that out, and a few other things I can easily fix (make and build custom RPM's for my self) actually XFCE is in centos extras for C5, it might be there again for C6, in due time :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Yah...can't wait On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:02 PM, John Kennedy skeb...@gmail.com wrote: When will CentOS 6 be released??? (Just kidding...Just wanted to let you all know that RHEL6 has been released...And yes, I know that most of you all know...) John -- John Kennedy ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
on 11-10-2010 11:02 AM John Kennedy spake the following: When will CentOS 6 be released??? (Just kidding...Just wanted to let you all know that RHEL6 has been released...And yes, I know that most of you all know...) John So the usual 4 to 6 week (maybe 8 week) build and QA/QC process... Like anyone will wait to start hounding... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:05:53AM -0800, Scott Silva wrote: on 11-10-2010 11:02 AM John Kennedy spake the following: When will CentOS 6 be released??? So the usual 4 to 6 week (maybe 8 week) build and QA/QC process... Like anyone will wait to start hounding... Well, some will wait, or be busy hounding about CentOS 5.6--isn't there an upgrade in 4.x too? :) Not knowing how much preparation the development team has done, I'd expect it to be longer than usual---there are some major changes. However, I suspect we're all looking foward to it. (Save those tasked with immediately implementing it in production as soon as it's released.) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Oz: Looks dead, smells dead, yet it's moving around. That's interesting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
on 11-10-2010 11:13 AM Scott Robbins spake the following: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:05:53AM -0800, Scott Silva wrote: on 11-10-2010 11:02 AM John Kennedy spake the following: When will CentOS 6 be released??? So the usual 4 to 6 week (maybe 8 week) build and QA/QC process... Like anyone will wait to start hounding... Well, some will wait, or be busy hounding about CentOS 5.6--isn't there an upgrade in 4.x too? :) Not knowing how much preparation the development team has done, I'd expect it to be longer than usual---there are some major changes. However, I suspect we're all looking foward to it. (Save those tasked with immediately implementing it in production as soon as it's released.) Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 10-11-10 02:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: on 11-10-2010 11:13 AM Scott Robbins spake the following: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:05:53AM -0800, Scott Silva wrote: on 11-10-2010 11:02 AM John Kennedy spake the following: When will CentOS 6 be released??? So the usual 4 to 6 week (maybe 8 week) build and QA/QC process... Like anyone will wait to start hounding... Well, some will wait, or be busy hounding about CentOS 5.6--isn't there an upgrade in 4.x too? :) Not knowing how much preparation the development team has done, I'd expect it to be longer than usual---there are some major changes. However, I suspect we're all looking foward to it. (Save those tasked with immediately implementing it in production as soon as it's released.) Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. I expect that 5.6 will get the first priority, if for no other reason than it was out first, and thus probably already being worked on. Can't wait for CentOS 6.0 though! -- Digimer E-Mail: digi...@alteeve.com AN!Whitepapers: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:53:50PM -0500, Digimer wrote: I expect that 5.6 will get the first priority, if for no other reason than it was out first, and thus probably already being worked on. RHEL-5.6 is in beta, there is no final release. John -- He may be mad, but there's method in his madness. There nearly always is method in madness. It's what drives men mad, being methodical. -- G. K. Chesterton, The Fad of the Fisherman (1922) pgpjnqVC4jpmx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. I expect that 5.6 will get the first priority, if for no other reason than it was out first, and thus probably already being worked on. Can't wait for CentOS 6.0 though! I thought 5.6 was only a Beta. RHEL 6 is fully released. John -- John Kennedy ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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2010/11/10 Digimer li...@alteeve.com: I expect that 5.6 will get the first priority, if for no other reason than it was out first, and thus probably already being worked on. RHEL 5.6 isn´t released yet. Only the beta of RHEL 5.6 was released yesterday. Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
sound intrested ddownload link? ons 2010-11-10 klockan 20:58 +0100 skrev Morten P.D. Stevens: 2010/11/10 Digimer li...@alteeve.com: I expect that 5.6 will get the first priority, if for no other reason than it was out first, and thus probably already being worked on. RHEL 5.6 isn´t released yet. Only the beta of RHEL 5.6 was released yesterday. Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
hi Guys, On 11/10/2010 07:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. Just a quick note here - the centos buildsystem, as used for centos4 and 5 has 8 builder 'threads'. So there is a fairly good potential for rapid builds. Having said that, were not going to use those for centos6, we have a 6 node dedicated builder service that will get used for this. Over the next few days I'll post details on how you guys can keep track of whats going on. I'll also post some details on how everyone can get involved and help. Exciting times for sure :) - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
sound intrested download link? ons 2010-11-10 klockan 20:58 +0100 skrev Morten P.D. Stevens: 2010/11/10 Digimer li...@alteeve.com: I expect that 5.6 will get the first priority, if for no other reason than it was out first, and thus probably already being worked on. RHEL 5.6 isn´t released yet. Only the beta of RHEL 5.6 was released yesterday. Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
2010/11/10 mattias m...@mjw.se: sound intrested ddownload link? The beta of RHEL 5.6 is only available via the Red Hat Network. (RHN) Best regards, Morten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
hi Guys, On 11/10/2010 07:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. Just a quick note here - the centos buildsystem, as used for centos4 and 5 has 8 builder 'threads'. So there is a fairly good potential for rapid builds. Having said that, were not going to use those for centos6, we have a 6 node dedicated builder service that will get used for this. Over the next few days I'll post details on how you guys can keep track of whats going on. I'll also post some details on how everyone can get involved and help. Exciting times for sure :) - KB Now, if all of us 'leeches' can stop posting about this, the actual 'ants' will be able to do actual work beyond hitting the delete key when viewing this list. ;) Why does it seem that the immediacy for the next version increases at a greater rate than the versioning numbers? Yes, it has been painful waiting this time. My main issue has been trying to stay on upstream with PHP. And now it sounds like a double solution is on the way, 5 or 6. Sweet! Thanks CentOS team! -- John Hinton 877-777-1407 ext 502 http://www.ew3d.com Comprehensive Online Solutions ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org: hi Guys, On 11/10/2010 07:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. Just a quick note here - the centos buildsystem, as used for centos4 and 5 has 8 builder 'threads'. So there is a fairly good potential for rapid builds. Having said that, were not going to use those for centos6, we have a 6 node dedicated builder service that will get used for this. Over the next few days I'll post details on how you guys can keep track of whats going on. I'll also post some details on how everyone can get involved and help. Exciting times for sure :) This is very exciting. This also creates a tremendous amount of work for the CentOS team. I for one would like to thank the CentOS team for their continued efforts as well as thanking them in advance for all the work that will go into building CentOS 6. You have my utmost respect and appreciation. Barry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Barry Brimer wrote: Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org: hi Guys, On 11/10/2010 07:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. Just a quick note here - the centos buildsystem, as used for centos4 and 5 has 8 builder 'threads'. So there is a fairly good potential for rapid builds. Having said that, were not going to use those for centos6, we have a 6 node dedicated builder service that will get used for this. Over the next few days I'll post details on how you guys can keep track of whats going on. I'll also post some details on how everyone can get involved and help. Exciting times for sure :) This is very exciting. This also creates a tremendous amount of work for the CentOS team. I for one would like to thank the CentOS team for their continued efforts as well as thanking them in advance for all the work that will go into building CentOS 6. You have my utmost respect and appreciation. Barry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos We should also thank RedHat for if no RedHat then no CentOS. -Connie Sieh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org http://mattdm.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Quoting Connie Sieh cs...@fnal.gov: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Barry Brimer wrote: Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org: hi Guys, On 11/10/2010 07:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. Just a quick note here - the centos buildsystem, as used for centos4 and 5 has 8 builder 'threads'. So there is a fairly good potential for rapid builds. Having said that, were not going to use those for centos6, we have a 6 node dedicated builder service that will get used for this. Over the next few days I'll post details on how you guys can keep track of whats going on. I'll also post some details on how everyone can get involved and help. Exciting times for sure :) This is very exciting. This also creates a tremendous amount of work for the CentOS team. I for one would like to thank the CentOS team for their continued efforts as well as thanking them in advance for all the work that will go into building CentOS 6. You have my utmost respect and appreciation. Barry We should also thank RedHat for if no RedHat then no CentOS. Absolutely. Red Hat does a tremendous amount of heavy lifting to produce RHEL, without which there would be no CentOS. Red Hat also gets paid pretty well to do so, and unless I am mistaken the CentOS team does not. In any case, I appreciate the work of Red Hat and the CentOS team. Barry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Thanks Karanbir , I actually want to pony up and start helping so I am looking forward to hearing more about that and how I can help...Sounds Great On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.orgwrote: hi Guys, On 11/10/2010 07:52 PM, Scott Silva wrote: Last time there was only one build queue, so if 5.6 and 6 come out at the same time, they will have to choose which one gets attention first. CentOS doesn't have the multi-million dollar infrastructure to support multiple simultaneous releases. Just a quick note here - the centos buildsystem, as used for centos4 and 5 has 8 builder 'threads'. So there is a fairly good potential for rapid builds. Having said that, were not going to use those for centos6, we have a 6 node dedicated builder service that will get used for this. Over the next few days I'll post details on how you guys can keep track of whats going on. I'll also post some details on how everyone can get involved and help. Exciting times for sure :) - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
the big piece that i've been waiting for is ipv6 stateful firewalling. without that, ipv6 has been a non-starter for me. On 11/10/2010 12:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? Also which Fedora version was the basis for this? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ Also which Fedora version was the basis for this? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -Connie Sieh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? If Centos 6 is 4-6 weeks off. I can hold off my DNSSEC work for a bit. I have LOTs of other things to get done... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:54:19PM -0600, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? What is preventing you from looking at the upstream website to determine requirements? If Centos 6 is 4-6 weeks off. I can hold off my DNSSEC work for a bit. I have LOTs of other things to get done... I think it's a fair bet to say it will be at least 4-6 weeks out. John -- sxem trying to play sturgeon while it's under attack is apparently not fun. pgpf4JJQrnXqy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:57:10PM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote: Absolutely. Red Hat does a tremendous amount of heavy lifting to produce RHEL, without which there would be no CentOS. Red Hat also gets paid pretty well to do so, and unless I am mistaken the CentOS team does not. In any case, I appreciate the work of Red Hat and the CentOS team. Remember also that a lot of the original heavy lifting is done in Fedora, which, while sponsored by Red Hat, is very much a community project with significant work done without (direct) pay. So while you're appreciating, don't forget those folks either. :) -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org http://mattdm.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
On 11/10/2010 05:11 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:54:19PM -0600, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? What is preventing you from looking at the upstream website to determine requirements? I did look and obviously all the links I followed were deadends for this piece of info. I have a history of poor success on such matters; I think it is tied into my dyslexia and my language skills :( If Centos 6 is 4-6 weeks off. I can hold off my DNSSEC work for a bit. I have LOTs of other things to get done... I think it's a fair bet to say it will be at least 4-6 weeks out. Actually that is what I figured, no sooner than yearend and probably early next year. I have other things on my plate and I would just get my DNS current, which I can now do in a day and live off my secondaries for that time, build a FC13 test system to work out the DNSSEC setup, then when Centos 6 comes out, I SHOULD be able to do a relatively fast switch from Centos 5.5 and drop in the DNSSEC cruft. My DNS server has 1Gb memory, it is just the test systems that I tend to run lean with ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 Officially Released
Am 10.11.10 23:54, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/10/2010 04:33 PM, Connie Sieh wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 02:40:52PM -0600, Matt wrote: What does 6 bring with it? Anything new in virtualization and cloud computing? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/server/details/ I don't see here what version of BIND is included. Anyone know? bind-9.7.0-5.P2 To determine other versions the src.rpm's are located at ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/6/en/source/SRPMS/ And what are the minimum system requirements? Will we still be able to install this on a 256Mb system for example? http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/ /Götz -- Götz Reinicke IT-Koordinator Tel. +49 7141 969 420 Fax +49 7141 969 55 420 E-Mail goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg GmbH Akademiehof 10 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de Eintragung Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 205016 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. Claudia Hübner Geschäftsführer: Prof. Thomas Schadt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
