Re: [CentOS] Roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 release?

2019-07-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 7/15/19 1:16 PM, Wood Peter wrote:
> Where can we learn more about the workflow and software used to build
> CentOS RPMs and iso images?
> This will be extremely helpful to everyone facing the same challenges of
> building a custom distro.
> 
> Thank you all for the hard work on CentOS.

So for EL8 we are using koji combined with mbs to build:

koji:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_the_Koji_build_system

mbs (module-build-service):
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/



> 
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:44 AM Johnny Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> On 7/10/19 1:18 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>>> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>>>
>>> May I know roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 will be
>> released?
>>>
>>> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
>>
>> Well .. as explained before, it is a very irritative process .. (ie ..
>> do this, test, do that, test .. rinse, repeat).
>>
>> But with where we are right now .. I don't think it will take more than
>> one more month to finish and test.
>>
>> Obviously, we have people working on it every day and a QA team helping
>> us test what we are doing every day and we are still maintaining
>> CentOS-6 and CentOS-7 as well.
>>
>> But we are making progress and we are getting closer.
>>
>> There are many things that we need to work on .. including, but not
>> limited to a whole new build system (Koji AND MBS together), a
>> completely new way to maintain installer images and repos (via Koji
>> because of the modules).
>>
>> A whole new repository paradigm (BaseOS, AppStream, Devel {things not
>> released but needed to build BaseOS and AppStream} .. etc, etc.
>>
>> Anyway .. we are working on it very hard and we will have it released as
>> soon as we can.
>>
>> We don't have date yet.
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 release?

2019-07-15 Thread Wood Peter
Where can we learn more about the workflow and software used to build
CentOS RPMs and iso images?
This will be extremely helpful to everyone facing the same challenges of
building a custom distro.

Thank you all for the hard work on CentOS.

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:44 AM Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> On 7/10/19 1:18 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> >
> > May I know roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 will be
> released?
> >
> > https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
>
> Well .. as explained before, it is a very irritative process .. (ie ..
> do this, test, do that, test .. rinse, repeat).
>
> But with where we are right now .. I don't think it will take more than
> one more month to finish and test.
>
> Obviously, we have people working on it every day and a QA team helping
> us test what we are doing every day and we are still maintaining
> CentOS-6 and CentOS-7 as well.
>
> But we are making progress and we are getting closer.
>
> There are many things that we need to work on .. including, but not
> limited to a whole new build system (Koji AND MBS together), a
> completely new way to maintain installer images and repos (via Koji
> because of the modules).
>
> A whole new repository paradigm (BaseOS, AppStream, Devel {things not
> released but needed to build BaseOS and AppStream} .. etc, etc.
>
> Anyway .. we are working on it very hard and we will have it released as
> soon as we can.
>
> We don't have date yet.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 release?

2019-07-13 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 13/07/2019 01:05, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:43:58AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 7/10/19 1:18 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>>> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>>>
>>> May I know roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 will be released?
>>>
>>> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
>>
>> Well .. as explained before, it is a very irritative process .. (ie ..
>> do this, test, do that, test .. rinse, repeat).
>>
>> But with where we are right now .. I don't think it will take more than
>> one more month to finish and test.
> ...
> 
> I wonder if the use of "irritative" instead of "iterative"
> was intentional, subconsciously or not.  :))
> 
> Jon
> 

It made me smile too.  It's rather a good coinage though.

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Re: [CentOS] Roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 release?

2019-07-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:43:58AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 7/10/19 1:18 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> > 
> > May I know roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 will be released?
> > 
> > https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
> 
> Well .. as explained before, it is a very irritative process .. (ie ..
> do this, test, do that, test .. rinse, repeat).
> 
> But with where we are right now .. I don't think it will take more than
> one more month to finish and test.
...

I wonder if the use of "irritative" instead of "iterative"
was intentional, subconsciously or not.  :))

Jon
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Re: [CentOS] Roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 release?

2019-07-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 7/10/19 1:18 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
> 
> May I know roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 will be released?
> 
> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8

Well .. as explained before, it is a very irritative process .. (ie ..
do this, test, do that, test .. rinse, repeat).

But with where we are right now .. I don't think it will take more than
one more month to finish and test.

Obviously, we have people working on it every day and a QA team helping
us test what we are doing every day and we are still maintaining
CentOS-6 and CentOS-7 as well.

But we are making progress and we are getting closer.

There are many things that we need to work on .. including, but not
limited to a whole new build system (Koji AND MBS together), a
completely new way to maintain installer images and repos (via Koji
because of the modules).

A whole new repository paradigm (BaseOS, AppStream, Devel {things not
released but needed to build BaseOS and AppStream} .. etc, etc.

Anyway .. we are working on it very hard and we will have it released as
soon as we can.

We don't have date yet.



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Re: [CentOS] Roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 release?

2019-07-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 06:18:26AM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> May I know roughly how many more months before CentOS 8.0 will be released?
> 
> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8

It'll be done when it's ready.  You've got the correct site to keep an
eye on the status of the project.

If you want to start working on EL8, I suggest getting a Developers
Subscription and use the one free license to build a test system with
RHEL8. 

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