Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-11 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 11 September 2012 00:39, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote:
 Linux users too often flaunt the law by using patented software
 illegally.  By doing so we refuse to support those who invest their
 funds and blood to produce compatible software.  Then we complain about
 companies not supporting Linux.  I wonder who is at fault for that. ;-)
Unless they are not breaking any law since the software patent is not
recognized in their jurisdiction. The world does not end at the
borders of USA.
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Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-11 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 09/11/2012 04:55 AM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote:
 On 11 September 2012 00:39, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com  wrote:
 Linux users too often flaunt the law by using patented software
 illegally.  By doing so we refuse to support those who invest their
 funds and blood to produce compatible software.  Then we complain about
 companies not supporting Linux.  I wonder who is at fault for that. ;-)
 Unless they are not breaking any law since the software patent is not
 recognized in their jurisdiction. The world does not end at the
 borders of USA.
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Then they wouldn't be using patented software illegally would they?

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Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-11 Thread Craig White

On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:

 On 09/11/2012 04:55 AM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote:
 On 11 September 2012 00:39, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com  wrote:
 Linux users too often flaunt the law by using patented software
 illegally.  By doing so we refuse to support those who invest their
 funds and blood to produce compatible software.  Then we complain about
 companies not supporting Linux.  I wonder who is at fault for that. ;-)
 Unless they are not breaking any law since the software patent is not
 recognized in their jurisdiction. The world does not end at the
 borders of USA.
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 Then they wouldn't be using patented software illegally would they?

discussion of this hardly appropriate for this list but your assertion is not 
correct. It's typically not using software illegally, but sometimes using it 
without recompense to the authors or in the case of DVD, the consortium that 
accepts money for the various entities. In other areas, this can be known as a 
shakedown.

Craig
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Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, September 09, 2012 09:55:56 PM Mark LaPierre wrote:
 I just installed the Fluendo DVD player.  Cost me $20.  Its playing 
 Shrek right now.  Swaps to full screen and back without a hitch.

 http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-dvd-player/

While there have been a few legal DVD players for Linux over the years, to the 
best of my knowledge the Fluendo product is the only 'legal licensed fully paid 
up' one that still is fully supported by the developer.  Fluendo also has a 
legal MP3 decoder that is a no-cost download, and a full codec pack that has a 
small cost for fully legal gstreamer decode plugins.

The harder software packages to find for Linux in fully licensed and legal form 
are the encoders..

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Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-10 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 09/10/2012 09:35 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Sunday, September 09, 2012 09:55:56 PM Mark LaPierre wrote:
 I just installed the Fluendo DVD player.  Cost me $20.  Its playing
 Shrek right now.  Swaps to full screen and back without a hitch.

 http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-dvd-player/

 While there have been a few legal DVD players for Linux over the years, to 
 the best of my knowledge the Fluendo product is the only 'legal licensed 
 fully paid up' one that still is fully supported by the developer.  Fluendo 
 also has a legal MP3 decoder that is a no-cost download, and a full codec 
 pack that has a small cost for fully legal gstreamer decode plugins.

 The harder software packages to find for Linux in fully licensed and legal 
 form are the encoders..

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Linux users too often flaunt the law by using patented software 
illegally.  By doing so we refuse to support those who invest their 
funds and blood to produce compatible software.  Then we complain about 
companies not supporting Linux.  I wonder who is at fault for that. ;-)

No, I don't support the concept of software patents, but let's not go 
there right now.

I, for one, have no problem with supporting companies who support Linux. 
  I buy software and hardware from vendors who support Linux, and I take 
the time to write to those who don't to complain.  Maybe if more of us 
would support companies who support Linux there would be more companies 
willing to make the investment required to support Linux.

Now don't think that I'm not an open source supporter.  I use it when I 
can get it because open source leads to innovation and improved data 
security.  Where are all those people who use proprietary software that 
uses proprietary file formats going to go when the company they have 
been depending on decides to abandon their customers.

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Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/10/12 4:39 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Where are all those people who use proprietary software that
 uses proprietary file formats going to go when the company they have
 been depending on decides to abandon their customers.

when that happens, the proprietary formats should die with the company 
that created them.

anyways, we're dealing with a very specific situation here, the DVD 
Forum, which was created by the electronics companies that make the 
players, and the media companies that sell the DVDs, has refused to 
allow an open source player even after DeCSS proved out futile the media 
copy protection is.  If you buy a movie on DVD, you can't even make an 
m4v copy to watch on your iphone

many linux users are quite adamant about only running open source code 
on their systems.


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Re: [CentOS] VLC Equivalent for CentOS 6.3 (SOLVED)

2012-09-09 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 09/09/2012 06:51 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 09/09/12 1:21 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
 Is there anything available in the CentOS 6.3 software catalog that can
 play a DVD?  I am loath to install software from external repositories.
 That only leads to headaches.

 probably not because any legal DVD player software has to be licensed by
 the DVD Forum to understand the decryption keys.   any use of 'cracked'
 keys is illegal, and Red Hat can't condone that.

 you can just download the RPM from here
 http://pkgs.repoforge.org/vlc/vlc-1.1.13-1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm or
 http://pkgs.repoforge.org/vlc/vlc-1.1.13-1.el6.rf.i686.rpm

 if you don't want to configure the repo.   there's also a mozilla plugin
 that enables playing videos embedded in firefox in that same folder.




I just installed the Fluendo DVD player.  Cost me $20.  Its playing 
Shrek right now.  Swaps to full screen and back without a hitch.

http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-dvd-player/

Be sure to configure the sound and video to suit your system.

I legal solution at a reasonable price.

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