Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
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 Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb
 C++Lanny

If you have C experience, it'll be quick once you get your head around
constructors, destructors, inheritance, templates (I never did enough of
that to get it), et al.

It essentially implements a bunch of things we used to do as functions,
libraries or modules when we recognized a strong re-usability potential,
and formalizes all that to the object oriented model.

Good luck on it and I know you'll enjoy it once you see results.

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Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 snip

 Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb
 C++Lanny

 If you have C experience, it'll be quick once you get your head around
 constructors, destructors, inheritance, templates (I never did enough of
 that to get it), et al.

 It essentially implements a bunch of things we used to do as functions,
 libraries or modules when we recognized a strong re-usability potential,
 and formalizes all that to the object oriented model.

 Good luck on it and I know you'll enjoy it once you see results.

Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to
enter the 21st century now. C++ is a lot to learn and it looks like a
lot of it has to do with
the way things are done in OOP. The book is very long (878 pages) but
well regarded.
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Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:38 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
  snip
 
  Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to 
  absorb
  C++Lanny
 
 snip

 Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to

Ditto - IBM 360/370. Some things never leave. BALR 14, save area trace
register 13, etc. I still love assembly. Speed and efficiency were my
big thing.

 enter the 21st century now. C++ is a lot to learn and it looks like a
 lot of it has to do with
 the way things are done in OOP. The book is very long (878 pages) but
 well regarded.

Yes, OOP is the whole purpose of C++. When it first came out, I
dismissed it as fluff (OOP was really new then and initial specs and
implementations had not much power). By the time C95 came out, things
had started to look more useful. By now (I've not looked in a long time)
I'm sure it deserves its highly regarded status.

 snip sig stuff

Well, don't want to pollute the list further. I'll just say that you
should grab some small snippets of a real application to peruse as you
go through the book. It will help assimilation (no, not the Borg kind!)
immensely.

Enjoy!

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Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM, William L. Maltby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:38 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to

 Ditto - IBM 360/370. Some things never leave. BALR 14, save area trace
 register 13, etc. I still love assembly. Speed and efficiency were my
 big thing.

I began with IBM 360/65  ALC on an airline reservation system
snip

I finished the first chapter of the book. It is excellent. The author
obviously worked in industry and knows what it is like, working in the
real world.

 Yes, OOP is the whole purpose of C++. When it first came out, I
 dismissed it as fluff (OOP was really new then and initial specs and
 implementations had not much power). By the time C95 came out, things
 had started to look more useful. By now (I've not looked in a long time)
 I'm sure it deserves its highly regarded status.

From reading the first chapter, I'm sure that is true. He wrote that
50 to 70% of projects end in failure. OOP should reduce that
percentage.

 Well, don't want to pollute the list further. I'll just say that you
 should grab some small snippets of a real application to peruse as you
 go through the book. It will help assimilation (no, not the Borg kind!)
 immensely.

I'll ask a former manager/colleague if he happens to have any code
from a project he worked on that isn't classified, that he can send
me.
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