[CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
I'm running FC8 with Gnome 2.20.0 at work and I have this interesting situation. I have two disks on the system that are both configured to be mounted in /etc/fstab, but I'm seeing two things I believe are strange. One is that the second drive is not getting mounted at boot time. The other is that I see two icons for the disk on my desktop - one with the mount point of the drive, the other with the labvel, and they both refer to the same drive (but, e.g., if I use one icon to umount the drive, the other icon does not go away - this is secondary). Suggestions welcome. Here is my /etc/fstab: LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sda2 swapswapdefaults0 0 LABEL=/misc /misc ext3defaults1 2 The drive that is misbehaving is /misc. This is (more or less) my first experience with FC, so have mercy. :-) Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly OT? Only way it could be more OT is if this were a Mac OS X or Windows forum... ;-) You mean slightly isn't a synonym for way? :-) I suggest, forgoing disk labels... I umounted the drive, changed /etc/fstab not to use the label, removed the /dev/disk/by-label symlink and now I get one icon with the name /misc. That looks right, so I'll go with it. Thanks! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that you have solved. If for some reason you wish to keep both definitions (there may be reasons), just add noauto (no quotes) to one or both of the entries. This might be useful when you want to mount a different volume, e.g. as a temp mount for backup or copy purposes. This is handy when you have, e.g., a couple identical looking external usb drives that are used for different purposes on multiple machines. With label and noauto, it keeps me from accidentally mounting the wrong one. No, external labels won't do - purposes change frequently. I'm not sure I understand this - there are no duplicate entries in fstab, and the /misc volume does not automount during the boot, or didn't the last time I booted the machine. The problem is that I still have two icons on the desktop for a single mounted disk. ? If I want to get rid of the label, how do I do that? 'man e2label' doesn't say how to delete an existing label Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tune2fs -L /dev/XXX Thank you! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boot and root should be ok, but misc is probably causing problems with file managers querying fstab and hal. -Ross Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike: I found a *very* recent thread in the web forum of centos.org http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=47249topic_id=13912 Alan Bartlett wrote to: mkdir /mnt/cdrom and thenmount -r -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Here's the FC6 Install DVD I want to install an RPM from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# dir /mnt/cdrom eula.txt RELEASE-NOTES-en_US.html RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-rawhide Fedorarepodata RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test fedora.cssRPM-GPG-KEYRPM-GPG-KEY-rawhide GPL RPM-GPG-KEY-beta stylesheet-images imagesRPM-GPG-KEY-fedora TRANS.TBL isolinux RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-extras README-Accessibility RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-legacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# The contents of the DVD still do not show up if I open the Icon for it on the GNOME Desktop or if I click on Computer and then open that drive. Doing that, the media still appears to be empty. Like you, I am now 99.9% sure that this is not a HW problem. I am very puzzled, why this works, without any problems, on 2 of the 3 boxes I did clean installs on, last Thanksgiving weekend and not on this box. Lanny I am unclear on which parts of the above post are yours and which are from the thread. However: Can you access the contents of the DVD from a command line at all? If so, have you tried doing the rpm install from the command line? What make and model of DVD drive is it? What kind of controller is it connected to? Have you checked all the cables to make sure that they are properly connected and the drive has its jumpers in the right place? I have heard that mixing FC and CentOS rpms is not a good idea, although IIRC FC6 and CentOS 5 are reasonably close. Just wondering mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DVD reader: Hardware problem or OS glitch?
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 April 2008, MHR mhullrich at gmail.com wrote: Can you access the contents of the DVD from a command line at all? If so, have you tried doing the rpm install from the command line? Yes. I installed the kdeedu RPM awhile ago. Using the command line, I can mount and access the DVD, without any problem. Then it seems that your immediate problem, installing another rpm from that DVD, is solved - use the command line. I am a firm believer in command line usage, so I'm really not at all clear on what the importance of being able to access the DVD via Nautilus is. Yes, it's an annoyance if you can't get at files that way, but this is Linux - there are many ways to skin the cat, and you have one that is arguably the best one available. That said, if you can access the disk from the command line, then this is almost certainly not an OS problem but more likely a GNOME problem. Have you tried asking on the GNOME list? HTH. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:11 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 16:03 -0700, MHR wrote: Must be something like that - if I su and umount it, both icons go away. Then I 'mount -a' and only one comes back. But if I log out and log back in, they both come back. Must a new feature of gnome 2.20.0 If *I* know about it, it *can't* be a *new* feature! ;-) Heh, heh - I meant feature as in the infamous Bill Gates interview with the German technology magazine, wherein he claimed that Windows has no bugs, only features that people do not understand. (You can't make this stuff up) The most interesting part to me is that the disk in question is a fixed drive in the case. On my CentOS boxes and laptops, these NEVER show up on the desktop (why would they?), only the removable media. Thanks, including for the chuckle. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the problem is simple really. fstab has the device listed as LABEL=misc, and HAL reports it as /dev/sdX, the Gnome file manager sees these as 2 separate devices and presents them as such. Actually, I used tune2fs earlier to delete the volume label and the entry in fstab now lists the device directly. Find a way to have Gnome stop scanning the fstab file and have it rely completely on HAL, or have HAL ignore all devices listed in fstab. I'll look into this one. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the misc is getting automounted, that would be a problem. But wasn't the noauto option tried (I can't remember)? No, I want it automounted. I just don't want it to show up twice on my desktop. I suppose I could just delete the file from my Desktop folder, but I'm not sure if that does anything detrimental or what mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean regardless of if desktop is started up? In that case, it sounds like System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media settings need changing to *not* mount when hot-plugged. At the risk of repeating myself: this is a fixed hard drive; it is NOT a removable drive nor a removable media drive. That is why this issue is so puzzling to me mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] problem installation of mplayer
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mamun wrote: Guys, I already installed CentOs,but can anyone give a sample of repo files and priorities.conf file. As for this 2 files i am unable to install mplayer. See http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories mplayer is in rpmforge and atrpms (watch out when mixing those, use priorities). I've had excellent results on CentOS with rpmforge, and highly recommend it. (I haven't tried atrpms.) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Archive-to-DVD
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:41 AM, David Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Here's the situation. I have a group of engineers who love to save things to disk. Now that the filer is getting full, they are interested in archiving some of those things to DVD. The tress containing the things they want to archive are specified like so: /path/path/path/A/04?? /path/path/path/B/04?? /path/path/path/A/05?? /path/path/path/B/05?? /path/path/path/A/06?? /path/path/path/B/06?? ...and there are things in A and B which do not match the specifications. The total amount of data in this specificaiton is around 30GB, and this is not distributed equally through the specification. What I'm hoping for is a program that I can feed in directory specifications like the above, and it will produce for me DVD images (.iso files) containing these trees in such a format that when the engineers want file $X, I can give them the DVD (or the whole stack, if required) and say there you go without having to go through a restore process. I don't want something which creates it's own archive format which spans the DVDs (ie split-tar or ufsdump). I would settle for a program that produces a list of files such that I can create DVD images on my own. Does anyone have any ideas how I might go about doing this, before I roll my own solution? For requirements as specific as you list above, I'm guessing that the fastest solution is to roll your own - a relatively simple shell script should do the trick. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?
I have a WinXP guest under VMWare on my CentOS 5.1 host and it can access the CentOS printer(s) just fine. However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be able to print on the CentOS printer. When I try to connect to the printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...? Any suggestions? (This slightly really is - it _is_ directly related to CentOS, unlike my previous FC8 post) Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop - SOLVED
I can't think of a better word for this than weird. I went back and reread most of the emails on the original thread, and both Ross and Bill suggested that something about misc might be off. So, I created a new mount point called other, pointed fstab at it, modified my scripts and symlinks that used to reference /misc, and rebooted. Voila! /other was automounted, as I wanted, and there's only one icon on the desktop for it. I did notice along the way that /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit had a mount -a with a -t list of types of FSs to mount, which did not include ext2 or ext3. I added those, and that did not help the /misc situation. Apparently, there is something funny about /misc in FC8 (is that true in CentOS?). Anyway, problem solved, thanks to all, enjoy your day, etc., etc. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: Subject: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qa kernel* kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 kernel-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 How can I correct this, so the box will boot the latest kernel? TIA! Lanny As root, go to the directory where the rpms are located (you can use 'find' for this if you don't alreayd know) and run: rpm -ivh kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 kernel-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: Subject: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 15:48 -0700, MHR wrote: snip As root, go to the directory where the rpms are located (you can use 'find' for this if you don't alreayd know) and run: rpm -ivh kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 kernel-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 Mark: Syntax for the find command so I can locate those 2 packages? If I can find them, then I think this will be solved quickly. TIA, Lanny Either 'man find' or 'find --help' would give you faster and more accurate results. Best wishes! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: Subject: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erm. man find is one of the most hideous manual pages on a linux system (man tar comes close) - so a bit help from your side would have been nice. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have never found this particular man page to be bad enough not to consult when needed, even for the first time (like I did, lo these many eons ago, when it was even harder to read than now) and the effort pays off big time in future uses. I could have just said RTFM in so many letters, but I /was/ trying to be nice(r). a) use locate whereever you can That should work, too, if you know how to use it (I'm not too fond of the man page for this one, either). b) find / -type f-name kernel*.rpm -- this recursively (from / downwards) finds file which begin with kernel and end with rpm Actually, the -type f is not needed, unless a system has enitities on it that are not files but masquerade as them with names like kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5.i686.rpm. c) This is not needed anyway, as those packages are ALREADY installed. The problem Lanny cited was that the packages were installed but the kernel did not appear in /boot, and the suggested solution was to remove them and then reinstall them. Yes, if they are properly installed, you don't need to know where they are. Yes, you do not need to know where they are to remove them (your previous email this subject). But you're going to have a real problem reinstalling them if you don't know where they are. Hence, the find suggestion. 'Find' is your friend. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: Subject: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would always use locate for that task, much faster, much easier. Not being familiar with 'locate,' I found its man page rather intimidating at first glance. I'll have to study it a little more carefully, but I should also note that I ran locate to find my kernel rpms and was unsuccessful (whereas, though slow, I did find them with 'find'). All else aside, I can't count the number of times I've had my head handed to me right here on this list for failing to look something up before asking about it. I'll admit that 'find' can be hard to get used to, but if you don't look, you can't tell how much good it can do (or how complex a man page can get :-). 'Man rpm' is ugly, but it's one you just have to get to learn about. (Info is not much better, and it's harder to use.) Just my $0.02 mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I woke up about 430 this morning and I realized that rpm can locate the file by itself. :-)However, I want to learn how to use find that Mark (mhr) mentioned! Lanny (offlist): Thanks - I really did mean that in a good way. The best way to learn to use find is to play with it. I have aliases and functions that use it for many, many purposes, especially for finding things in source code files. I strongly suggest that you take the time to wade through the man page. Find is a very powerful command, and even if the man page is poorly laid out, there is a lot you can do with it. For this purpose, what you probably would need to do is this (asoot): find / -name kernel*.rpm It may take a while, but it will absolutely find every kernel-related rpm on your system. HTH. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Slightly OT: Extra icons on desktop - SOLVED
I should probably add this big mea culpa: I just had my first experience working in Ubuntu, and, despite my previous experiences with Alpha Linux 1.x and SuSE 10.1, I am astounded by the depth of differences between different distros. So, to the person who pointed out that this was way more than slightly OT for this list, being as how it has to do with FC 8, you were SO right. How little did I know (and still, but I'm learning as fast as it comes). That's one of the great things about working in computers and software - there's always more to learn. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Windows key works some times I boot, doesn't work others
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Nick Fenwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, How can I investigate why my Windows key is not triggering the expected keybinding commands? This may seem dumb, but are you sure it's not your keyboard? I use a Logitech EX110 wireless keyboard and mouse, and every once in a while the number keypad goes silent, and then it comes back for no particular reason. Could your Mod key be misbehaving? Also, there are three key bindings files in gnome (none of which I recall by name at the moment) but you need to make sure they all are set correctly (there's one for each section of the keystroke preferences window - desktop, multimedia and windows). I had some problems similar to this when the right settings wound up in the wrong file, but nothing as sporadic as what you're describing. HTH. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Gnome-terminal's backslashes look like Ws with a horizontal line through -- how to get a backslash?
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:42 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 16:16 -0400, Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: Hello! snip To see what I mean, use gnome-terminal with echo '\' in bash, ksh, etc. snip $ echo \\ \ $ Hmm, well, I tried what you said: $ echo '\' \ $ Nothing strange there. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Curiosity when installing CentOS 5.1 in addition to W98 WXP
I got half way through an installation of CentOS on a box that has Window$ 98 in the first partition and Window$ XP in the second, where CentOS was designated for partitions 3 (/boot - 128MB) and 4 (/) and had some strange results. During the install, I changed the default OS to boot to Window$ (because I rarely use this machine, but others who don't have a clue use Wxx), but then while the packages were downloading, I left the machine alone. When I came back, it had rebooted to the DVD, so I pulled it out and rebooted again. It came up in the Windows boot selection screen (W98 or WXP), and never stopped at grub. Should I not have set it to go to Windows by default, or is this something different? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Curiosity when installing CentOS 5.1 in addition to W98 WXP
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Jim Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you tell grub to write to the MBR, or to the partition where you installed CentOS? I looked at that screen and took the default, which, IIRC, was to write to the MBR. (I couldn't see the point of writing to the partition) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Curiosity when installing CentOS 5.1 in addition to W98 WXP
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5-12-2008 10:17 AM MHR spake the following: It might not have finished the install, and something made it reboot before it had written the grub records. I figure I'll just start over and sit there to watch while I read a book or something. (sigh) Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Partly OT: Is there a DVD (or other) firmware flash download program for CentOS/Linux?
All I can see with google is sfdnwin.exe for Window$ only Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Partly OT: Is there a DVD (or other) firmware flash download program for CentOS/Linux?
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:49 PM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I can see with google is sfdnwin.exe for Window$ only Okay, I found dfutool - does anyone know if that is as generic as it sounds and can, in fact, update a DVD burner's firmware? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Curiosity when installing CentOS 5.1 in addition to W98 WXP - SOLVED
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5-12-2008 10:17 AM MHR spake the following: It might not have finished the install, and something made it reboot before it had written the grub records. I figure I'll just start over and sit there to watch while I read a book or something. (sigh) Turns out it looks like the DVD didn't burn quite right (even though K3B verified it) and the install aborted about 2/3 of the way through. Thanks! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Curiosity when installing CentOS 5.1 in addition to W98 WXP - SOLVED
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you have a newer '16X' or whatever DVD burner, tell your burning software to go no faster than 8X, and your disks will be 100% more reliable I've noticed that - in my (now defunct) Emprex 16x burner, the 12x DVDs were good virtually anywhere, but the 16x DVDs were chancy. On my old (even deader) Hammer (Panasonic) burner, it was 8x (didn't support 12x). Now I have a Pioneer 18x that supports 12x as the next lowest speed (!), and a brang new Samsung (TSST) 20x drive that maxes out at a whopping 2.47x (no kidding - that's my need for the new firmware...). I'll try an 8x burn and see how that does - almost certainly will be better Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Printing: network host busy
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H, I have 5.1. The other day I was printing and the job crashed. I cleaned the /var/spool/cups, but I am still getting the: network 192.168.2.10 host is busy, will retry in 30sec It's a dlink print server, that has worked very well for the last 3 years. I have restarted but the print server and the printer. Any suggestion? I used to see problems like this with my local (lp0) laser printer if I turned the printer off in the middle of a job (to clear the printer), but the only fix I've found or heard of was to reboot the machine. Nothing else I tried would resync the printer to the computer, and this was a local parallel port. IIRC, it not only required a reboot, but it hard to be a hard reset (the switch) and not just a system restart because the hardware got out of sync and there's no way to initiate a hard reset to the printer from the software. Has this changed, by any chance? mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] broken GFS
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Doug Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to do that. Kernel's removed from automatic updates. There you go. We'll agree to disagree about the importance of not breaking an officially supported kernel filesystem on an automated upgrade because only a few of us are affected. Keep in mind this is not an unsupported XFS that someone hijacked my thread with. I say there is little in a new kernel that the rest of the users cannot wait 2-3 lousy days for. Wanna stretch it to a week to meet your statement of earliest, I can live with that and my statement still stands. And, I do realize this is not centos's fight, I guess my complaint is with RedHat in this case, they should be more responsible than that. If M$ took that policy and released official upgrades they knew would break even a small percentage of their users, especially something as critical as the very filesystem that your entire user data resides on, we (the linux community) would be throwing them under the rug for it. 1) You're top posting - please stop it. In this email list, we bottom post as a matter of policy and courtesy. It's not that hard 2) This isn't really an issue of agreeing to disagree. XFS is *not* a Red Hat product at all. They (RH) do not support it at all. The CentOS project provides XFS as an *extra* that is NOT part of the mainline CentOS release stream. It is only supported by the CentOS group in the centosplus repository, which is a courtesy provided for free by the CentOS group. IOW, CentOS does not have to support XFS at all. That they do is a courtesy. Now, if you like the centosplus product and use it, remember to follow the guidelines for it - little things like not doing automatic updates because you already *know* that centosplus does not come out immediately when RH releases a change that CentOS picks up and releases as well. All of this is clearly discussed here from time to time, so the expectations have been set accordingly. Please try to remember this and manage your installations accordingly, too. And that's *my* soapbox, from which I will now step down and shut up. Temporarily. :-} mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] tar spanning
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:54 AM, CentOS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a directory with 18GB worth of files and I would like to tar span and burn it into a few DVDs after that. How can I do this in command line? Thanks Regards Am I the only one who finds it disturbing that someone who is only identified as CentOS List and who clearly is not is asking a question like this of the (actual) CentOS List? Or is there another way to read this? Please identify yourself and don't pretend to be this list mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] broken GFS
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Doug Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 11:07 -0700, MHR wrote: 1) You're top posting - please stop it. In this email list, we bottom post as a matter of policy and courtesy. It's not that hard I'm sorry, that last sentence was unnecessary and just rude. I don't tell you how to set your email client and what your preference is toward how you like to read your email. I find it completely annoying to have to scroll to the bottom of a message to read a reply. I will comply with the group as a whole that I chose to join, I was unaware that bottom posting was preference. But I do not appreciate the tone, you could have easily asked nicely or referred me to the preference policy for me to follow. You apparently didn't see the smiley I left out of the last sentence :-) I didn't mean it to be rude at all - no tone implied. I just noticed that you have posted several times to the list and all of them, until now, were top posts, unlike almost everyone else. I /was/ trying to be nice This is a matter of agreeing to disagree on the release of a kernel and a supported file system. If you had read my thread and subsequent paragraph you're taking issue with properly, you would have gotten that. My whole issue is around GFS, which is officially supported (someone else hijacked this thread with XFS which got more attention), and in my statement I said: Keep in mind this is not an unsupported XFS that someone hijacked my thread with. So I'm agreeing that XFS should never be brought up in the same fashion as GFS, as it is not a supported file system. GFS is, and it is my opinion RH should release the 2 together. Yes, I've been reading the thread. I you didn't mention GFS in the specific post to which I was replying, but you're right, it's there in prior posts. So all of my commentary about XFS does not apply to your post. Non-sequitur - mea culpa. :-) I already agreed and removed kernel from the update, no need to lecture. It was intended to be a gentle reminder. (You've obviously never seen me lecture) Again, if you will take the time to read instead of knee-jerking a reaction in some automatic defense of your feelings, you will note that I took the aim at RedHat for the issue, and said it was not CentOS's problem. Read boy, read. snip And unfortunately, all based on improper understanding of what was written, which makes it inappropriate in a public forum. Me thinks you had seen enough of the other guy whining about his unsupported platform, saw the word XFS in my paragraph, and basically quit reading and decided to send your XFS rant at me. I hope from a therapeutic standpoint, it helped you in some fashion. You seem awfully touchy here - are you sure you're not lecturing me? :-) Take a breath, relax, you were not under attack, lecture or anything rude. I meant it with the best of intentions - I usually do. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] broken GFS
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Doug Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that hard would have gotten you b**ch slapped even with a smile on your face in person. Just stick to polite, it's not that hard :D. snicker Bad thing about email, it's hard to grasp tongue in cheek humor and tone isn't it? Didn't you see my bfg at the end of my response? Actually, I wasn't sure what that was I just googled BFG and got BF Goodrich, BFG Tech, Big F**king Gun and Big Friendly Giant, but I'm guessing you meant Big Fat Grin (or some other F* word :-). Seriously, though, I try to read email as if it had no tone (unless the language or emoticons make it abundantly clear) and always, always take a deep breath before I respond - shot myself in the foot enough times to remember a few of them when I want to blast off. I also try to proof the responses, and frequently delete them so I can wait a while before I write anything. But, technically, since we're writing and not speaking, it's all tongue-in-cheek, isn't it? ;^) Do you honestly, like having to scroll down with the rolly thing on your mouse 9 times to get to the reply only to find it is not something you cared to read? I say toss it at the top in my face where I can ignore it with less effort. I'll let others handle the arguments here - I just try to go with the flow, and I can read it either way. I will admit, though, that some of the posts here contain WAY too much back-data. Edit, edit, edit! 'nuff said! ;^))) mhr BFG! YEAH! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] broken GFS
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Doug Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed to all, and I was just having some fun and trying to bring some humor to everyone's day. Thanks for having a sense of humor, I'll respectfully bow out now. There you go, man Keep as cool as you can Face piles of trials with smiles It riles them to believe That you perceive The web they weave... And keep on thinking free - In the Beginning, On the Threshold of a Deam, the Moody Blues :-) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People are so afraid that someone will be able to identify them through newsgroup postings or harvest their address for spam. So what if someone googles my name and finds out I help people on a few lists! I'm just hoping the foot-in-mouth postings I've made here aren't as google-able as some of the more intelligent stuff that comes up under my name. I'm already infamous, and not just on this list. Do I care? Why? Will it put me on a no-fly list (probably too late... ;^)? Makes me look real bad, doesn't it? Oh, yeah! ;^) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know that the more stupid the rant, or more embarrassing, the higher it goes in the page rank! ;-P I'm the top! ;^) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OpenSSL/SSH Bug on Debian - Compromised key pairs
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Daniel de Kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jikes, rereading this, this does not seem accurate at all. Let me just quote the advisory: Furthermore, all DSA keys ever used on affected Debian systems for signing or authentication purposes should be considered compromised; the Digital Signature Algorithm relies on a secret random value used during signature generation. That made perfect sense to me: If all the compromised systems used the same (unrandomized) seed for the values of k, it would not be too difficult for the determined cracker to break keys given enough CPU power and an algorithm that could generate the exact same series of k values (i.e., use the same random number generator, all of which are NOT random if you know the seed). All they need is one of the two algorithms in Steinar's note, and goodbye security! In theory, this same approach could be used to break any SSL keys, but guessing the appropriate k value is roughly 2^128 times more difficult (which is the whole point). mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:56 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: outlook supports imap, doesn't it? I have my wife setup with Microsoft Windows Mail (Vista, fka outlook express) using imap on gmail, and it works /great/ she gets the best of both worlds, it maintains copies of her folders locally AND on the gmail server, and synchronizes each time she connects so that she can look up stuff in her email when she's offline. the imap 'folders' she creates in windows mail are in fact filters on gmail. OMG! Did I read this right? John, YOUR wife uses (random unflattering gagging noises inserted here) WINDOW$??? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! I may not get anything else done today! /humor ! What, I left out the start tag? It's implicit here, isn't it??? ;^ mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Labeling in gmail doesn't help if you are forwarding to an Outlook account, though. Well, no, of course not, but if you're going to forward from a great email facility (like google/gmail) to anything else, you're kind of stuck with the recipient product's limitations. (Snub to Outlook, not you, Anne :-) Still, there are filters in Outlook if you like automatic sorting (I don't, but I don't like Outlook, either...). Also, it would be nice if all lists used good subject labeling the way the CentOS and yum lists do (and not, e.g., the rpmforge list, which uses users exactly the same way that OOo does, making them impossible to distinguish from the subject alone, or the gnome list which has no tags at all). Okay, I'm just rambling here. I don't sort my email until I pop it down from gmail into evolution, and then I sort it all by hand. It's a minor pain, but I only download what I've already read in gmail, so I already know that I want to save it and where by the time I see it in evolution. Yes, I'm weird. You didn't know that? ;^) mhr $0.02. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5-15-2008 10:06 AM MHR spake the following: OMG! Did I read this right? John, YOUR wife uses (random unflattering gagging noises inserted here) WINDOW$??? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! I may not get anything else done today! /humor ! What, I left out the start tag? It's implicit here, isn't it??? ;^ Is it still funny if you have unmatched tags? I don't know what you're talking about Funny is in the ear of the taster. mhr (For the humor impaired: Yes, that was supposed to be funny, too Heh, heh, heh ;^) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey ! Stop picking on *him*! ;-) Yeah. After all, do you really want to pick on CetOS List? (All shades of meaning intended.) Pick on Bill for a change - when was the last time we did that? ;^) RBFG mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:09 PM, David Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:04:08AM -0700, MHR wrote: This is way OT, which we know (the Subject: line...) - can we dismiss it as beaten to death one more time and go on? :-) You must be new to the Internet. There's no such thing as too much beating for any horse, dead or not. :) Possibly - I've only been on it since 1984 or so. :-) But you know, every once in a while sanity strikes (this list!) and people move on. It can happen. (Angels in the Outfield) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with ~ 60-70 messages since midnight last night?!? 100+ email messages/day is a fairly busy email list by any standards. but, yes, I'd rather go to the library and read a well written book than hang out at a party where 300 people are all small-talking at once. (w.r.t. this whole thread, including my own contributions) Well, there goes my social life. mhr :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: OOM condition with file-4.17-9.0.1.el5
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 5:36 AM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I will try. The machine config Machine is a HP DL360G3, 2gb Mem, 2Gb swap running CentOS5.1 x86 This might not have anything to do with your problem, but I have found that busy systems usually do better with a swap size that is around double the size of physical memory. Just a thought. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] symbolic linking
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Cox wrote: I have a number directories under /opt on computer jack. I want some (not all) of them to appear in /opt on computer jill. I have the /opt directory on jack mounted on jill under /mnt/jack I'm not clear on what this means - jill:/mnt/jack == jack:/opt? If I go into the /opt directory on jill and do this: ln -s /mnt/jack/opt/files . If the above (of mine) is correct, then you have: jill:/mnt/jack/opt/files == jack:/opt/opt/files - this also makes no sense. I get /opt/files/files on jill. What I want is /opt/files and I can't see what I'm doing wrong. I don't see anything wrong with that command. A quick test on one of my systems confirms that it should do what you expect. Try specifying the target explicitly: ln -s /mnt/jack/opt/files /opt/files (no trailing slashes on either the source or destination) Yes, using fqpn's is best in situations like this, but if I read the above correctly, you want: ln -s /mnt/jack/files /opt/files because you said you mounted jack's /opt on jill's /mnt/jack, not jack's / (root). Still, why you would get /opt/files/files is a mystery to me, too. HTH. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ray Van Dolson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone around for 10 years much less 51 years would know that Karanbir's style of communication should be considered blunt and not offensive. It's a common style of communication for developers. I never take it personally... Excellent advice, especially for newbies and non-nerds. I read an interesting take on why once. Can't remember the link though... nerds need to remember that normal folk appreciate niceities in conversation, and normal folk need to remember that nerds are often very blunt but aren't really trying to be offensive. In which case, a nerd with 51 years experience should understand (instead of complaining). And for the record, top posting is evil (but ubiquitous thanks to MS Outlook and friends) and I much prefer mailing lists to forums. :) Then you must also be a nerd. (Me, too, of course!) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re:Re:Can't get past the splash screen
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Eon Strife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked the permission of that var/lib/nxserver/ (and folders (including /db/running/ ) and files inside it), the permission is 0700 (read,write,execute enabled for the owner), with the group is root and owner is the nx. And yes, also using the root I can view the content of the var/lib/nxserver. If I login using that new user, I can't view the content. No? Have you tried to 'su' in a terminal window to look at it? mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Need help with rsync. [solved]
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:37 AM, James B. Byrne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This indeed turned out to be an SELinux policy problem which I have since resolved. Whoa, whoa, whoa, nice shooting, Tex! (Ghostbusters) Not so fast - please post the solution, too, for posterity (and those of us who don't use SELinux but might, someday, in the not too distant far future...). Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] COBOL
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:21 PM, James Bunnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just told in no uncertain terms that it is not RHEL. True, but the formal releases of CentOS are 100% compatible with the corresponding upstream release. (That's the whole point.) IOW, if it works in RH, it should work on CentOS. There are some exceptions for code that explicitly checks for RH. However, I am repeating what I have seen here - there are other, much better informed sources here than I. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 1333/8GB Intel motherboard for C5.1
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I was not clear in my original email, the point being that you dont need to rebuild drivers when kernels update ( in 99% of the cases ) Is that now true also of the nvidia driver(s)? I haven't seen anything so to indicate. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 ?
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Answer: When it's ready. Suits me - I have a different question (and it's probably up somewhere I don't have time to look at the moment - I'll check when I get to work, but by then I'll have forgotten this question again). Does 5.2 have an updated release of GDE with it? Every so often, among other things, when I exit Evolution, it crashes, but Bug Buddy says it can't report the bug because my GDE is too old. 5.0 came with GDE 2.16.0. Gnome development is up to 2.23.1 (or later - I lost track). So, does anyone know, off the top of their heads, or where I can look this up? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re:Re:Re:Can't get past the splash screen
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Eon Strife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks, I check those folders, and they are already empty. Now, I tried to remove the freenx by using yum, and then I removed the files it left behind manually in: Pardon me, but would you please either stop top posting or delete what you are replying to - this thread is almost impossible to follow. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba question
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:09 AM, david chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pinging server name, From the server itself can ping. However from winxp client cannot ping by server name, can only ping by ip address. This probably means that your Win XP hosts file doesn't have the name in it mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sed
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Matt Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd use awk. Put the lines in a file, then do this
cat test.txt | awk '{ print $1 \t $2 .centos.com\t $3 \t $4 }'
Or just awk '{ print $1 \t $2 .centos.com\t $3 \t $4 }' test.txt
newhostsfile
(The cat just complicates things, as with most cats :-)
mhr
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[CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
My main system is a CentOS 5.1 64-bit desktop with gobs of disk and a couple of printers attached that work just fine. I have it set up with samba so my VMWare guest Windows XP can access most of the files and the printers. But, when I try to connect to the printers from a remote machine that has a Win98/WinXP dual boot, I can't see the printers at all. Both 98/XP can ping the host by IP address or by name (I've updated the host on both and the lmhost file on the 98 boot), but the 98 boot can't see the network at all, and the XP boot can't see anything on my CentOS box, although it at least sees that the box is there. Here's my smb.conf: # Global parameters [global] workgroup = MARKHOME domain master = yes preferred master = yes server string = Samba Server printcap name = /etc/printcap cups options = raw log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 password server = none username map = /etc/samba/smbusers socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 wins support = yes dns proxy = no idmap uid = 16777216-33554431 idmap gid = 16777216-33554431 template shell = /bin/false winbind use default domain = no [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S path = /home/%u create mask = 664 directory mask = 775 writeable = yes browseable = yes [tmp] comment = Temporary file space path = /tmp writeable = yes guest ok = yes [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba browseable = yes printable = yes What am I missing? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] How is this possible?
As an experiment, I am attempting to build a more recent version of GNOME than 2.16.0 on CentOS 5.1. I've tried both garnome and jhbuild, and neither one works quite right. Jhbuild blows out looking for a dbus-glib-1 revision = 0/74 (the release rev is 0.70), so I downloaded that and tried to build it. This results in the following error: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wfloat-equal -Wsign-compare -o .libs/dbus-binding-tool dbus-binding-tool-glib.o dbus-glib-tool.o ./.libs/libdbus-gtool.a -L/lib64 ./.libs/libdbus-glib-1.so -ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 /usr/lib/libexpat.so -lnsl /usr/lib/libexpat.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[4]: *** [dbus-binding-tool] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/mhr/Download/dbus-glib-0.74/dbus' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mhr/Download/dbus-glib-0.74/dbus' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mhr/Download/dbus-glib-0.74/dbus' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mhr/Download/dbus-glib-0.74' make: *** [all] Error 2 When I try to use garnome, it eventually runs into exactly the same error. I've checked /usr/lib/libexpat.so, and this is what I get: $ ls -l /usr/lib/libexpat.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Jan 8 13:11 /usr/lib/libexpat.so - ../../lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 $ ls -l /lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133056 Jan 6 2007 /lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 $ file /lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 /lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped When I look at this library with nm, lld and objdump, they all seem to be able to read it just fine. There is also the 64 bit version that lives in /ib64 and has a .ink from /usr/lib64, and that also reads fine. What did I miss here? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How is this possible?
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Tru Huynh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... just my 1st and last warning: if you break your setup don't come complaining here :) I presume you mean my GNOME setup, and yes, I know - there are instructions on both jhbuild and garnome on how to avoid that. Hopefully they are more effective that the build instructions )-; The error message is quite clear. ... you are running a 64 bits CentOS-5 machine and you are trying to link a 64 bits objects with a 32 bits shared lib. Actually, I respectfully disagree - the message is far too vague, although the implication may not be. However, that raises another question: why does the build (either one) not know the machine architecture on which it is running and therefore detect the proper library to which to link? Or do I have to fake it by replacing the links in /usr/lib with those from /usr/lib64? IOW: how do I (or does anyone) build GNOME (or even just dbus-glib) on a 64-bit platform? good luck. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How is this possible?
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you ask the people who wrote that buildsystem ? what did they say ? Yes, I was emailing back and forth with them yesterday. So far, on this problem (the latest in a line), no response yet. Of course, I did not specifically ask them this question (how does one build on a 64-bit platform), but I did mention up front that that's what I'm running. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they should up if you run the command below in the Linux host? smbclient -L //localhost I'm guessing you meant show up and yes, everything looks normal, but only if I use a -U option with a known user. Is there a way to allow printer access without a user login? Not even the home share? Have you created a machine account for the XP guest? Not sure what a machine account is - there is a user account on the host that has the same user name and password as the one on the guest. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try adding 'guest ok = yes' to the printer share configuration. I will - thanks. ...I think you need to pick a bit more on Windows networking...more reading of the books/documentation provided with samba should help. Definitely - I'm working on that in my copious (gales of laughter) spare time, along with the other two or three hundred projects :-) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Low-memory Centos5?
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Jeffrey B. Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning, I've inherited an old laptop from my wife that I'd like to use when I travel (it's fairly small with a 12 screen). The bad part is that it is maxed out on memory with 384MB. Has anyone played with using Centos5 on systems with little memory? Ideally, I don't need too much - Firefox, Openoffice, a little Perl/Python/C here and there. I was thinking about using either XFCE or Icewm as the window manager. I'd also like it to work with the existing wireless card (Dlink DWL-G650). Any thoughts or recommendations? I have an old Toshiba Tecra laptop with a P3 running 600MHz and 256MB of memory. I installed CentOS 5.1 with the graphical installer, and it runs GNOME fairly well. It's slow (compared to my main desktop, but that's an AMD 64x2 4200+ with 4GB of memory), but I expect that with an older, slower CPU like this (as opposed to a molasses crawl /old/ CPU :-). I use OOo 2.4 on it, and that is also slow, but it runs, and I always use the command line interface whenever I can, but that's 'cuz I'm more comfortable there, and it works nicely all around. YMMV mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Setting up a chroot
I'm trying to build GNOME (to run a more recent version than 2.16.* on CentOS 5.1) and I keep running into a lot of rather strange problems. I'm wondering if this might have something to do with my hybrid 64 and 32 bit general environment, so I want to try a pure 64-bit chroot. I've never done this before, and I'm not entirely sure how to, and I didn't see anything particularly on point, either at centos.org or google. If I missed it, just say where and that should be enough. Guidelines? Suggestions (other than go away or other physically difficult crudities :-)? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Frequent Gnome Terminal crashes in CentOS 5.1
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Alfred von Campe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fresh install via kickstart. I reformatted the root and /boot partitions, but left one user partition untouched. I don't think this is possible since I reformatted the root partition (I only have /, /boot, and /scratch partitions in addition to a swap partition). The process ends without leaving a trace unfortunately (at least that I can find). I did have an strace running on one system attached to the gnone-terminal process and it finally died after 5 days or so. Here are the last 20 lines from the log: Is it possible you have some kind of time-out set, like an idle time cut-off? If it's only happening at night, this might explain it. I have Seamonkey crashes and strange behavior related to nautilus windows when I try to open Netowrk Connections, but I've never seen or heard of anything like this. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Fastest 4.6 - 5.1 upgrade path
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Sorin Srbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did the upgrade dance with yum once when going from Fedora 5 to 7. It worked, but took a lot of time and left a helluva' lot of obscure lib-failures and stuff. I eventually got it working but I never felt sure it wouldn't fail on me whenever. After running the upgraded system for a month or so w/o any problems, I decided to do a fresh install from scratch with CentOS5 and clear all FUD I had left. Yum -upgrades works, but you'll potentially spend a lot of time clearing and fixing problems afterwards. You want a quick install, do a fresh one. Don't forget to backup your data first though. I upgrade between minor releases, and that seems to work fairly well. But for any major release, I'd go for a clean install. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] another sed question...
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking to change a yml file (yaml is a database type file) *** from --- !ruby/object:Right attributes: name: Personnel Admin action: index id: 1 controller: assessments --- !ruby/object:Right attributes: name: Personnel Admin action: find id: 2 controller: assessments *** to --- !ruby/object:Right attributes_1: name: Personnel Admin action: index id: 1 controller: assessments --- !ruby/object:Right attributes_2: name: Personnel Admin action: find id: 2 controller: assessments where I'm taking the 'id:' field from each record and inserting an underscore and the id into the 'attributes' label directly above. Any takers? Sed is not a good candidate for this, although you might be able to do it with some seriously twisted script. Sed is a stream editor - its commands are applied to every line it sees. Awk is a much better candidate for this - you could write a not terribly difficult script to cache the lines up to the id, modify the attributes line and spit out the whole batch. As for writing it for you, I strongly urge you to read the man page and see if you can't do one yourself. It will be worth the effort in future endeavors. Once I taught myself how to write in awk, I found 1) reading it in other people's scripts was a WHALE of a lot easier and 2) it wasn't that hard to write anything from simple ones to really complicated ones. However, really complicated awk scripts are of limited use IMNSHO because a really complicated pattern transformation that needs to be executed a lot is better implemented in a program (i.e., C, C++ or whatever) or a more advanced scripting language like Perl (or Python, which I've yet to use). You could even do this in a shell script mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try adding 'guest ok = yes' to the printer share configuration. I will - thanks. I did - no change. ...I think you need to pick a bit more on Windows networking...more reading of the books/documentation provided with samba should help. Okay, I went through the Samba Guide at http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba. I read chapters 1, 2 3 fairly thoroughly, and I'm going through 12 (troubleshooting) now. One small problem is that this is for Samba 2.2 and I'm on 3.0.25. Be that as it may Let me start up front with this: both Windows boots can ping the CentOS Samba Server. Neither one can see it in their M$ Network. I went through chapter 3 step by step for both the W98 and WXP boots, and I can't see my C5.1 from W98 at all, and I can't see anything that's on the C5.1 from WXP. I started going through the troubleshooting chapter, and I got up to this point with W98: 'net use * \\mhrichter\tmp' hangs for about a minute, then comes back with an Error 59 - unknown error. In the log, I see this (I did it twice): [EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# cat mhrichter.log [2008/05/31 10:54:03, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1033) mhrichter (192.168.0.100) connect to service tmp initially as user nobody (uid=99, gid=99) (pid 19903) [2008/05/31 10:54:07, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(1230) mhrichter (192.168.0.100) closed connection to service tmp [EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# grep nobody /etc/passwd nobody:x:99:99:Nobody:/:/sbin/nologin nfsnobody:x:4294967294:4294967294:Anonymous NFS User:/var/lib/nfs:/sbin/nologin [EMAIL PROTECTED] samba]# In case you don't remember, the tmp share is configured thus: [tmp] comment = Temporary file space path = /tmp writeable = yes guest ok = yes So, in theory, anyone should be able to see it, read and write to it, etc. (Yes, I know there's a potential space problem here, but these machines are all on a private subnet, I'm the only one who has a clue how to really make use of them, and there's about 35GB left on /, including /tmp.) This particular problem is not addressed in the guide, so I'm stuck (again). I'll be trying the WXP boot in a few minutes, where my logon /should/ work (but doesn't) and I'll see what turns up in the log for that. But, in the mean time, any ideas? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 5:55 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think your reading the wrong guide, try this one and this has traversed on long enough. Almost Two weeks now. 1) This has been going on, on and off, for a lot longer than two weeks. 2) I was hoping that it would be considered long enough when the problem is solved. 3) My samba configuration is only a part of the problem, and it works for my Windows XP guest, even with all the tweaks I've added/used. The problem also has (a lot) to do with the Windows configuration, which may not be perfect, since I used the wrong guide to set it up and check it, but nothing here even addresses that. But thank you for your opinion. Samba 3 By Example: http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba3-ByExample/ Samba 3 How To: http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba3-HOWTO.pdf http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba3-HOWTO/ These were where I started out, and how I got what I have to work with my WXP guest in the first place. I was using the other guide as an additional resource - it /is/ on the samba site, after all, and they don't appear to have a step-by-step guide for samba 3+. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
I just found something interesting. I brought up my XP guest, and it had no trouble at all connecting to the shares, but it couldn't open the workgroup at all and the printer had become disconnected. I could not reconnect through the workgroup (duh), but if I just input the network name, the printer came up just fine. So: I can connect to my shares from the XP guest, and I can connect to my printer from the XP guest, I just can't open the workgroup (this is relatively new, like, since I began messing with the smb.conf file in the last two weeks). Don't know exactly what that means, but I haven't given up yet. Tomorrow I'll dig in more on the remote machine and see where that all takes me. Any helpful suggestions still welcome :-) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
I have a couple of partial solutions. For the remote Windows XP boot: 1) The firewall (ZoneAlarm) was blocking all pings. Why? I have no idea. According to its program data, ping was enabled for local and internet access, and the allow server fields were unset (meaning that it was supposed to ask). I solved this by turning off ZoneAlarm. 2) I still could not get through to the server, so I poked around on the web. I kept getting a ICMP host mhrichter unreachable - admin prohibited,) and I found one QA that suggested flushing the iptables, so I did. Voila - the shares and printers are now available across the network. Unfortunately, this did nothing to help the remote Windows 98 boot, which still can't see the network server or its resources. Also unfortunately, the 98 boot is the more important one to have printer access. (Don't ask.) Any other ideas? Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:25 AM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a couple of partial solutions. : Unfortunately, this did nothing to help the remote Windows 98 boot, which still can't see the network server or its resources. Also unfortunately, the 98 boot is the more important one to have printer access. (Don't ask.) It was late last night and I forgot to include any useful information here. The 98 boot has an automatic (no password) logon. As I said, I can't use the Network Neighborhood to see anything on the server - in fact, it can't even see the workgroup, even after I double checked all the setting. However, I can attempt to attach to resources, but, e.g., when I try to attach to my mpp1100 printer, it posts a password input window for resource \\mhrichter\IPC$, but I can't figure out which password, and none of the ones I tried works. On the server side, I have (something like) this for my smbusers (I'm going from memory here, but it's not too hard): # root = administrator admin mark = mark guest = esther ruth guest smbguest nobody = pcguest (Yes, I have root access from the samba clients disabled.) The default login account is esther, but the passwords for guest and mark don't work, and no password also does not work. When I get home, I'll add an account for esther on the server, fix up the smbusers file and see what happens. Another anomaly - when I was logged into the XP boot as mark, I could not connect to the printer without specifying a password (with the connect as another user dodge), even though the passwords on both machines are the same. Ok, back to work. :-) Thanks, everyone, especially John. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Largish filesystems [was Re: XFS install issue]
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you still want those all-in-one file systems then you may want to look at JFS as I have heard good things about both it's stability and performance. Is there anyone running JFS currently that can attest to that? I am not using JFS now, but a year ago when I was at Datallegro, we were using JFS because we had severe problems with XFS on both SuSE and CentOS. IIRC, the main problem was that performance was sluggish with XFS over fiber channel, and XFS was not as stable then as (I would hope) it is now, on either system. The main reason they were using SuSE was that Novell came out with version 10.2 with the 2.6.18 kernel about a month or two before CentOS did, and they (DA) already had a SuSE kernel set up with the infiniband drivers they needed for the hardware. FTR, Datallegro does massively parallel processing database appliances, like Teradata, but cheaper, faster and in direct competition with Teradata, which has the name and the history. A 5TB DB is really small for both of them, but it was spread out over numerous nodes within the appliance, so there was no specific file system with anything that large all in one place. HTH mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: win9X has horrible network username habits...you need to determine what username its running as... dirty trick, log off, and the username should be in the login prompt, just hit enter to relogin with the same username and the same blank local password.. on the SAMBA server, create that username as a linux user, AND `smbuser -a username`, assign it a smb password. when win98 prompts for a password, thats the username it will use, you get no choice, and win98 should be able to 'save' that password (if you check said box on the login prompt), which causes it to be saved to a username.pwd file (I think thats the name of the password cache). does that make sense? Well, sort of, but we are talking about Micro$oft and Window$$$ here :-) Now that I've had some rest, that's pretty much what I was going to try next. Wish me luck! Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Live CD?
I just used a Live CD for the first time today, in part to show what CentOS can do for a co-worker who is looking at using it at work and home, but I got the strangest result. We booted the CD and let the centos user log in. It took a really long time to load the desktop and there were no panels, so the only things we could do were browse the computer, CD, home, file system, keyboard (sort of) and pretty much nothing else. altf2 and altf1 did nothing, either - no menu, no input windows - nada. Is that normal? If not, what did I/we overlook? I was expecting a lot more, and from looking around the wiki, there should have been, but I couldn't find a good reference for what the Live CD is supposed to be able to do or let a user do. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-Samba question
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: win9X has horrible network username habits...you need to determine what username its running as... dirty trick, log off, and the username should be in the login prompt, just hit enter to relogin with the same username and the same blank local password.. on the SAMBA server, create that username as a linux user, AND `smbuser -a username`, assign it a smb password. when win98 prompts for a password, thats the username it will use, you get no choice, and win98 should be able to 'save' that password (if you check said box on the login prompt), which causes it to be saved to a username.pwd file (I think thats the name of the password cache). More progress: It occurred to me that somewhere along the line I had not given my CentOS guest user smb access, so I ran smbpasswd and set the guest password to match its login password. When I went back to W98, I tried to add the network printer - it recognized the name (\\mhrichter\MPP1100) and asked for a password. I gave it the guest password, and it proceeded to try to install it. I put in the CD, went through all the (right) moves to install the driver, and then the moment of truth: W98 said I had to reboot. I knew I was in trouble. I rebooted, and, lo and behold, the printer was suddenly offline and unavailable (there was no change to the CentOS host or the printer at all). I deleted the printer to start over, but this time W98 said the printer was offline when I input the name and the password. W98 still can't see the network or any of the shares in the Network Neighborhood, but at least I can reach for it by name. Any doors or windows in this wall? Thanks. mhr PS: I have always said that I don't really hate Window$, I just prefer working in and on Unix/Linux. I don't think that's true any more, although I must say that of all the versions of Window$ I've ever used, XP is the least objectionable. PPS: Yes, this is Window$ XP Pro (but I think it's still SP1), and 98 SE. It's still Window$, a Micro$oft product, which really says it all. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 5.1 Anaconda Install Error
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Kirk Bocek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm unable to install x86_64 on a host. The installer gets through the first part, asking for install type and it begins loading the images from whatever media was selected. Then anaconda spills a series of cryptic messages ending in 'file not found' and the console on F2 is locked up. I've tried this with physical DVD media, PXE-HTTP and media-boot HTTP install. It happens every time. This is a reinstall to this host. The weird thing is that I was able to install to this host from this media previously. I've seen the note at bugs.centos.org regarding an incorrect .discinfo file but that doesn't seem to be it. The .diskinfo file: 1195929648.203590 Final x86_64 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 CentOS/base /home/buildcentos/CENTOS/5.1/en/x86_64/CentOS CentOS/pixmaps Does anyone have any idea what's going on? A little more detail, like what kind of hardware this is on, might help mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS-Samba question
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Ross Cavanagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MHR wrote: Vista will raise your disappointment level back up! That was intended to include Vista - it sinks to a new low for Micro. Even SP1 made it worse. Funny article in regards to upgrading from Vista to XP. http://dotnet.org.za/codingsanity/archive/2007/12/14/review-windows-xp.aspx ROTFLMAO! Thanks! RBFG mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Live CD?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both live CDs (CentOS-4 and CentOS-5) boot to fully usable desktops. It sounds like there are hardware issues with the machine involved and the livecd booted. Sounds likely - I'll check what I can mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Live CD?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Corrupted CD maybe? Could be. I burned it at 40x (it's a 48x TDK CD) using K3B with write verification, so it passed the md5sum after the write completed. I suppose it could be an incompatibility between my burner (a Pioneer 18xXxXx DVD burner) and the reader (a TEAC CD-540E). I noticed that the target system, which normally runs (well, actually, walks is more like it) Ubuntu 8, only has 256MB of memory - could that be part of it? The other oddball thing was that, after we had booted the LiveCD and given up on it, we had to reboot the Ubuntu in repair mode to get it back up (!!!). I haven't tried it anywhere else just yet mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Live CD?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually burn critical CD's at lower speeds. It seems that they have a more reliable image when the laser gets to spend a little more time on the tracks. I'll have to check the file at home again - I just checked the CD here and its md5sum doesn't match the one on the download site's md5sum.txt file. )([EMAIL PROTECTED]$)%(*@#$(*@$#(@ Back to the basics Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] General CentOS 5.1 (or Gnome) instability?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Alfred von Campe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been a big fan of CentOS for a while, and didn't have many issues with CentOS 4.X over the past few years. However, since moving to CentOS 5.1 a few weeks ago, I have received more problem reports from my users than in the last year and a half on CentOS 4.X. I've previously reported the problem with gnome-terminal crashing (and since there is a single gnome-terminal process by default all your terminal windows disappear which makes this really painful), and now I'm getting multiple reports of Gnome applets suddenly quitting. Sometimes this includes the entire screen flashing (probably a side effect of the Show Desktop applet exiting). I've also had reports of some third party tools like SlickEdit misbehaving and/or crashing on CentOS 5.1. Don't get me wrong; I'm not really complaining about CentOS. I really appreciate what the CentOS team does. I am just wondering if anyone else has seen these issues. If it was just one or two users, I would suspect the hardware or some configuration issues. But these issues started cropping up after I upgraded our existing systems to CentOS 5.1. The upgrade was a complete reinstall via a kickstart script (I reformatted all partitions/LVs except for one), and all systems are configured identically. BTW, I'm using CentOS for our desktops as well as our servers, and all these problems are really confined to the desktop systems. Almost everyone uses the default Gnome desktop. So, does anyone else have the perception that CentOS 5.X (particularly Gnome) is a little less stable than CentOS 4.X or is it just me? I run my desktop and my laptop on 5.1 using GNOME without any of those problems. My desktop is a 64 bit host with 4GB of memory, and I run a completely mixed 32/64 bit environment (not entirely out of choice). From your description, it seems like you've run into a GDE problem, not a CentOS problem. The main problems I've seen with GDE are: 1) A mysterious bug that caused the system to stop processing logouts, halts and reboots unless I took unusual measures to do them (explicitly kill the gnome session to log out, or run halt or reboot instead of using the shutdown applet), but those also mysteriously disappeared after about a month of me fighting with it. I think it was ESD related, but it's gone 2) An interesting bug when I try to run the Network Connections applet, it kills all my open nautilus windows. I don't usually use that applet, so it's an annoyance but one I don't see a lot (ever). 3) A really annoying bug in GDE 2.16.0 that pops up when another application crashes and wants to send a bugzilla report. GDE claims that 2.16.0 is too old and won't send the report. Fortunately, that doesn't happen too often (most often when I exit Evolution, which I usually do only when I log out). Most of my other quirks of operation I attribute to the fact that I run OOo 2.4 instead of the official 2.3 (I like it better, even though it's only 32-bit), and I run a 64-bit alpha build of SeaMonkey (because the 32-bit release 1.1.9 keeps disappearing under certain specific circumstances that never occur with my own builds). I'm looking forward to 5.2, but 5.1 has been great to/for me, as was 5.0 before it. HTH mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] rpm -q versus what's installed
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:56 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 23:27 -0400, Scott R. Ehrlich wrote: I am trying to install Oracle client 10g (10.2.0) on a 64-bit CentOS 5.0 system. 'rpm -q make gcc glibc etc' reveals some packages as not installed, yet a yum install package name consistently returns Nothing to do. Yum list available package name yields nothing needed. If rpm -q list of packages lists some that are not installed but every variant of yum install and yum list I've tried and googled claiims nothing more needs to be installed, either the OS is misreporting (I doubt that) or I'm missing something that is not easily being revealed, or that I haven't used in a long time and outright forgetting. A common error is to not give the correct name to rpm. Try rpm -qa | grep part of the pkg name I often forget to add such trivial stuff as .i386 to the package name. Ditto for yum. Just do a yum list all into some file and then view the file. Also, yum list all into a file might be useful. It shows installed and available. I have a couple of aliases you might find useful for this: alias rg='rpm -qa | grep -i' alias yg='yum list | grep -i' They're not terribly efficient, but I don't use them that often, either. Also, I have a setting in my .rpmmacros (or .rpmrc) file at home that specifies to list the machine type along with the file name - I can't remember it (or find it) right now, but I got it here, so someone knows (Figures that I wouldn't have it here) HTH mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT - colors in window change - sometimes....
One of our Windows machines here has this interesting property that I could not duplicate in Linux (F8, but I'll check it later at home from C5.1, too). If I open a DOS window, set the properties to have a white background with dark blue font, telnet to another machine, and run some commands, sometimes the commands echo in gray on black (and stay that way). For example, the default ls (which has the color=tty option set), does this, but only with what it prints to the screen. The real killer is vi, which resets the whole screen background back to black with colored fonts, some of which are really hard to read (like dark blue on black - egad!). When I log out, the DOS window resets, but only what it prints, unless I clear the screen, which fixes it. Does anyone know anything about this? Seems really strange (like most WinDO$ weirdness). NEVER happens on my Linux box, but it does happen through rdesktop Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Live CD?
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 06 June 2008 13:20:02 Lanny Marcus wrote: Drives that we have had good luck with include: Samsung, SONY LG. Other's probably work just as well. We have other TEAC drives, but they are the last TEAC drives we will purchase. I would add Lite-On to the list. I've had several, including a stand-alone DVD recorder, and been highly satisfied with them. Actually, I said (and it's true) that the burner was a Pioneer DVD +/-RW DL 18x, with which I have so far had pretty good luck. It turns out that the image was bad, which I missed The reader is a Teac CD-540E CD drive, but the original iso image that came down was no good. The CD-R media I usually buy are Imation or Verbatim. Never had a problem. There are probably other brands equally good. Memorex to a range that they call Memorex Professional - about 10% more expensive than their basic range. I've found that I can let K3B run full-tilt on them, doing a fast burn and getting good results. Prior to finding them I always had to throttle back. I'm somewhat fond of TDK, but their newer, high-speed (16x+) DVDs have been pretty iffy for me - the old ones (4x), and their CDs, are rock solid, and the newer Memorex and Sony discs have been fairly reliable for me (but Costco only carries TDK - foo). Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Live CD?
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TDK, Memorex, Imation, Verbatim, I don't believe ANY of those actually make their own disks. My TDK's have a media code of CMC MAG. AM3, which is, I believe, CMC Magnetics, a middle grade disk, OK but not great.Note that there's some OTHER CMC disks which are apparently pure garbage.These AM3 code disks can be found with Ricoh, , Memorex, Staples, and god knows how many other brands on the label. And, a different label of TDK disk might be from a different pressing plant. Hmm - sounds like we need a corollary to Nero's InfoTool for Linux to get at that that said, I've burned 100s and 100s of the Costco 16X TDK CMC MAG. AM3 DVDs with very very few problems. I've had several DVD burners, currently mostly using a Pioneer DVR-112D (16x DL), previously I had a Sony that was really a rebranded LiteOn, but after a couple years of heavy use, it started getting too many burn errors, so I retired it. I used to have a couple of Emprex burners - I forget who _really_ made them - that were quite nice despite being a junk brand from Fry's. The 4x burner was slow but reliable, and the 16x burner was fast and could burn DVDs that read in DVD players and most other PC drives if the discs were burned at 12x (not 16x). Unfortuantely, both of them are now history, having died long before my time. I had a Hammer 18x drive that was really a Panasonic, but it didn't have all the speeds, and it died long before my Emprex 16x, even though it was about a year newer. I now have a Pioneer 18x burner that's pretty decent (although I haven't gotten it past 12x for DVDs and 40x for CDs), and a Samsung (i.e., Toshiba-Samsung) 20x drive that, so far, hasn't burned one DVD above 2.4x, or one that was any good in any drive, including itself. (I need to get some tech support for that one - blecch!) I have noted that DVD video is best burned at 8X, which is a CLV mode (16X is a CAV mode), as the error rate goes up considerably on the last 20% or so of the disk when it actually hits the 16X speeds, too many of my 16X burned home videos have glitches near the end.. 16X CAV burns actually average about 11X, so its really not that much slower to burn 8X overall. I've also found my computers are much less fussier about the disks than regular DVD players. I agree 100%. Supposedly, disks by Taiyo Yuden are the best, these are often sold as That's DVD Never heard of them - where do you find these? HTH mhr PS: w.r.t. the original topic here, I pulled down a new LiveCD iso image, and this one passed the md5sum. I used K3B here at work to burn two of them. Both completed the burn but the verification failed, so I mounted the iso file as a loop drive and compared all the files - fine. Booted from the CD - fine. Looks okay to me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Olivier Castien/Roncq/Infofrance/FRA/TZG est absent.
En anglais, s'il vous plait - cette liste est pour ceux de nous qui parlent anglais. (Pardonnez mon pauvre francais) mhr On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Je serai absent(e) à partir du 06/06/2008 de retour le 30/06/2008. Je répondrai à votre message dès mon retour. En cas d'urgence, vous pouvez contacter l'équipe technique d'infofrance. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Olivier Castien/Roncq/Infofrance/FRA/TZG est absent.
2008/6/9 Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But now I can learn to despise out of office messages in a wide array of languages! ;-P Oh, foo - that's what I get for recognizing the language and not reading it Maybe Olivier will get something out of this all anyway. )-: mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Copying files from specific date.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Peter Farrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's an excellent idea.
-pf
What is?
2008/6/9 Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Rajeev R. Veedu wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steve Huff
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:34 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Copying files from specific date.
On Jun 9, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Rajeev R. Veedu wrote:
Does anyone aware of any utility to copy files which are created
or modify form a specific date ?.
to copy all files in /dir1 modified within the last 5 days to
/dir2:
$ find /dir1 -mtime -5 | xargs -I {} cp {} /dir2
if the filenames have whitespace in them, you can use this trick:
$ find /dir1 -mtime -5 -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} cp {} /dir2
for more details on selecting by time:
$ man find
pay particular attention to the options -atime, -amin, -ctime,
-cmin, -mtime, -mmin, and -daystart.
-steve
Actually I need to copy this on to another server with same folder
structure. I think I need to explain bit of history.
I had a server crash last week, and we have restored the files from
the tape. However during this period of making the server up, the
users having adding or changed files from our backup Server (Samba
server which rsync to production server every night.) now I need to
copy the files which user added/ modify last 7 days. Ideally if I can
get this option in rsync it would be better. Otherwise I need to have
a method so that all changed files to go on the relevant folder on
the production server. I cannot take the full files in the backup
files since they are historical backup and there are some unwanted
files.
Can I use scp instead of cp in your statement?. But how does it take
the same directory name as the original location?
Eg:from ServerA/FLDR2/FLDR3/Filename should go to
ServerB/FLDR2/FLDR3/FILENAME
Only change is the server name all other values will remain same.
Any help would be really appreciated.
One approach would be to use the find command given above to generate a
list of files that have changed. Then pass that list to rsync via the
'--files-from' option to transfer them to the other server.
Oh, you mean this?
I know this has never been brought up before, certainly not in the
last month or so, but this list has some conventions:
1) Trim your replies
2) Bottom post
See why?
Thanks.
mhr
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[CentOS] Newer GNOME than base release
I have asked about this before, but I don't have a workable answer yet. I would like to know if there is a way to install a more recent GNOME package on CentOS 5.x than 2.16.0. 1) GNOME Bugzilla does not support this version any more - all bugs go into the bit bucket. 2) Having been exposed to Fedora 8 at work and seeing how much more flexible GNOME 2.22 is, I would REALLY like to take a shot at using it on my CentOS systems. 3) I asked about this on the GNOME list and I was told I should build it, and that jhbuild or garnome would do the job for me. This has not been my experience - both of them have major hangups building on my home desktop (the 64-bit hybrid CentOS 5.1 environment). 4) Johnny suggested I try mock to build in a chroot, pure 64-bit environment. I was unable to locate a mock that actually installed and worked on my system. (Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm the only person for whom this does not work. Heard it, can't believe it, must be doing something most others don't, whatever ;*) I have trouble believing that the ONLY ways to get a newer GNOME are to wait for CentOS 6, run a different distro (not likely) or build it myself. This is Linux, after all, isn't it? (That's a rhetorical question - no answer required, unless those /really are/ the only options) TIA. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Newer GNOME than base release
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you expect? CentOS is based off of RHEL, which tries to stick to older more stable/tested software. Your using the wrong distribution if you want the latest and greatest. Use Ubuntu, Fedora, or something else. As a casual user I'm happy with the gnome that comes with my Debian Etch install which seems to be somewhere around 2.14-2.16, and whatever version comes with Ubuntu 7.10(haven't turned that laptop on in a couple of months). Really, what did you expect? Do you expect folks out there to constantly build the latest greatest for a stable distribution that consists primarily of users that don't want the latest greatest (which is why they use that distribution in the first place). Dunno - a good answer, like yours? Thanks (seriously). mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Newer GNOME than base release
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Dan Halbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure you can have your cake and eat it too on a single machine. At the very least, building a newer Gnome for CentOS 5 sounds like a big timesink. There are probably all kinds of library issues. If you'd like the latest desktop apps, then perhaps it would be easier to choose Fedora or Ubuntu for your desktop, and connect to your more stable CentOS 5 servers remotely. Or, run Fedora or Ubuntu in a VM. Actually, the question grew out of a much more basic one, which I asked on the GNOME list and was told, why don't you build it yourself? (I now have many answers for that one!) What I was originally looking for was the location of the gnome config file where I could manipulate the default colors in my windows (I really don't like gray). I poked and googled around some, but there are SO many gnome files I was unable to locate the one that contains this config Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Newer GNOME than base release
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do not need CentOS for the reasons that most here use it then why don't you use Fedora if that gives you what you want? No one will be angry about you ;-) Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-} raspberry Yeah, I could jump ship, but I prefer the stability of a proven base, which is why I use CentOS wherever I can, and we're moving in that direction, corporately speaking, anyway. Besides, I just couldn't leave this community - where would you folks get all the laughs from then? :-) It was just a whim. Thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Setting up a chroot
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yum list mock: Available Packages mock.x86_64 0.6.13-1.el5.centos.1 extras Hmm, I'd better check my repos and so forth - that did not show up in my yum list Is that CentOS extras or KB's or - never mind. I'll just look. Thanks! mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Newer GNOME than base release
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mhr wrote on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:07 -0700: Heh, heh, as in, don't let the door hit you on the way out? :-} No, I meant it in a friendly way. I thought so, but I just couldn't resist ;*) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Newer GNOME than base release
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, there is these guys: http://www.alcance-empresarial.com/al/el/5/RPMS.al/ All i386 rpms, but it was worth the look - thanks. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [Fwd: Re: [CentOS] School Server Setup]
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Hyclak wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 04:07:48PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt enlightened us: This is something you don't have to back up with some arguments, as a non-green tree (at least from spring to fall) doesn't look that healthy and who has ever heard of a yellow fire engine? Not to pick nits, but in Columbus, OH, USA the fire trucks are (or were) all an awful shade of fluorescent yellow :-) I now officially hate you, because you broke my brilliantly laid out retort. Ralph Well, you know that he has two strikes against him, now: yours and the fact that he's from Columbus mhr (18 year resident of Ann Arbor, MI. ;^) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [Fwd: Re: [CentOS] School Server Setup]
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alain Terriault scribbled on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:55 PM: How do you mean big sophisticated setup? I think CentOS is rather easy to setup, in fact CentOS was the OS of choice when I first started with linux. I'm not fishing for flaming or trolling, just curious on why you think like you do. 8-) 'ear, 'ear! I dabbled in Linux for nine years, including a six month semi-concerted effort to use SuSE/Novell Linux (for which I paid $40), none of which did it for me. CentOS, in one month, impressed me enough to spend almost $400 to upgrade my primary home desktop hardware so I could install CentOS and run a Windows VMWare guest on it, and I've never been more delighted with a small system with huge capabilities. It was (and is) easy to install and easy to manage, and the only real trouble I've had with the system has come from other, non-CentOS related areas (including all the things that I thought were CentOS problems...). Them's my $0.03 (inflation, y'know...). mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: [Fwd: Re: School Server Setup]
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in California we have green fire engines (US Forestry) and red (burning) trees! At least in the summer. ;-P Really? Our trees burn yellow and black. Of course, I'm in OC, which is just too conservative to do anything right RBFG mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Not seeing all memory in CentOS 5.1 x86_64
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Ruslan Sivak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about VMware Server 1? Yes. Isn't there an issue with only being able to allocate 3.4GB of ram or something to that point? I guess it wouldn't be an issue since I only have 8GB of ram on this box, unless I wanted to allocate a lot of ram to a single process. Yes, VMS1 only supports up to 3.6GB or memory. I, too, like VMWare Server 1 and have been using it in production under windows. Does it support paravirtualization at all? Not according to VMWare - that's up for v2, whenever that comes out. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
