Re: [CentOS-docs] becoming root
Ned Slider wrote: Any suggestions as to where might be an appropriate home for this on the Wiki? I think TipsAndTricks is appropriate for that, maybe under Admin Tricks and shell one-liners? I don't see it under HowTo ... su or su - but the above are NOT the same thing. ... but the two commands above behave differently. When you become root by using 'su -', you also adopt root's PATH whereas using just 'su' retains the original users PATH, hence why becoming root using just 'su' and trying to run a command located in /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin, or /sbin results in a 'command not found' error. Please mention the bash manual page (and the section about login shells), where this behaviour is explained in more detail. Otherwise: Go ahead. Cheers, Ralph pgp7uRBAbNaOs.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] To do List
John wrote: UserName: JohnStanley You have access to pages below (and including) http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList now. Cheers, Ralph pgpWB5mefzUfg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] To do List
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 03:51 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:57 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Grins*, Akemi ATRpms.net. To get a some sense of this mess one would have to; For 32bit Install 1. and 3.. For 64bit install 1. and 2.. This is what you were referring to correct? That you say you installed once? I am just referring to the Legacy Graphic Cards for instance, to get some idea from you about what you are talking about. http://atrpms.net/name/nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx/ 1.http://atrpms.net/dist/el5/nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx/nvidia-graphics71.86.04-71.86.04-93.el5.i386.rpm.html 2.http://atrpms.net/dist/el5/nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx/nvidia-graphics71.86.04-kmdl-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5.centos.plus-71.86.04-93.el5.x86_64.rpm.html 3.http://dl.atrpms.net/all/nvidia-graphics71.86.04-kmdl-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5-71.86.04-93.el5.i686.rpm I did notice while I was browsing the site it seems that the the signed packages are expired. The package signature expired in December of 2007. I'm pickey... Signature:DSA/SHA1, Tue Feb 5 08:19:51 2008 ([expires: 2007-12-31]) There is also no yum repo configuration for RHEL 4 or 5, or for CentOS for that matter. So give me some more insight on this way of the driver install from ATrpms. Like how you would direct the user getting the appropiate files for the graphics cards. In principle, setting up the atrpms repo is not much different from that for rpmforge. First read the Repositories wiki article and go to http://atrpms.net/install.html for the instructions. Just like rpmforge, CentOS-4 and -5 use .el4 and .el5, respictively. Once the repository has been set up, all you should do is: yum install nvidia-graphics We Hope! That should resolve dependencies for you and install necessary packages that matche your *running* kernel. There is a posting in the CentOS mailing list by Axel (atrpms maintainer) with a brief explanation about the difference between rpmforge and atrpms: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-August/085287.html -I'll read over these later in the day. Two postings down in that thread, there is another one from him which is worth the bookmark. It gives you some workaround for an error that might occur when the above command is run for the first time. But we can talk about it later. Will look for that also. Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs -- ~/john OpenPGP Sig:BA91F079 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] To do List
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 13:06 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: John wrote: UserName: JohnStanley You have access to pages below (and including) http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList now. Cheers, Ralph Thanks Ralph! ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs -- ~/john OpenPGP Sig:BA91F079 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] becoming root
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Ned Slider wrote: Any suggestions as to where might be an appropriate home for this on the Wiki? I think TipsAndTricks is appropriate for that, maybe under Admin Tricks and shell one-liners? I don't see it under HowTo ... su or su - but the above are NOT the same thing. ... but the two commands above behave differently. When you become root by using 'su -', you also adopt root's PATH whereas using just 'su' retains the original users PATH, hence why becoming root using just 'su' and trying to run a command located in /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin, or /sbin results in a 'command not found' error. Please mention the bash manual page (and the section about login shells), where this behaviour is explained in more detail. Otherwise: Go ahead. Cheers, Ralph Thanks Ralph, will try and get something up later this week. Ned ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] editing wiki
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 20:02 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: John wrote: Ralph, http://wiki.centos.org/Nvidia_Graphics_on_CentOS I need edit rights for this page or do you prefer us to use http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/NvidiaDriver and finish that up. It is under the CentOS 4 section also. There is going to be three different ways to do the nvidia install. As in 3 different driver installs. There was a reason I gave you access to the hardware list page (you are able to create pages under there). It does not have to go into the CentOS4/5/3 sections if you are able to do a more general approach - I just want to have it *below* a an already existing section of the wiki, so that / doesn't get muddled like we did at the beginning :) So just go ahead with the page (which we don't have to link to yet), let us see what comes out of it and from where we link to it then. Cheers, Ralph Alrighty ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs -- ~/john OpenPGP Sig:BA91F079 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
Ralph, Akemi, and Ned http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics That will be the Link. -- ~/john OpenPGP Sig:BA91F079 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
John wrote: Ralph, Akemi, and Ned http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics That will be the Link. Thanks John. I should be able to have a bash at the RPMForge/dkms method in about a week (unless someone beats me to it!). Ned ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: Ralph, Akemi, and Ned http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics That will be the Link. Thanks John. I should be able to have a bash at the RPMForge/dkms method in about a week (unless someone beats me to it!). Ned I suppose this page will have a description for the differences between the three methods and how to choose one. ?? Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics
OK looking for some constructive critiuquing and ideas. This is just a ruff draft 1. First we need to know what type of graphics card you have. Please do the following at the command window. To get to the command window do the following [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#lspci -v note the difference in board manufactures. These drivers will work on all Aftermarket cards as long as it has an nVidia Chipset. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Chaintech Computer Co. Ltd Unknown device 1420 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 185 Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9f [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 As if you read the first line where it says nVidia Corporation, you will see in the braces the video card model. As this specific card is a GeForce2 MX/MX 400. Screenshot: Do one of Output lspci Supported Graphics Cards by nVidia here: Provide a link List is to long to put in How To. 2. Now to Select the newest driver please go to: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us Where it says Option 1, select the Product Type from the drop down box. Next, Product Series, Operating System, and Language. Screenshot: Here 2. Drivers can be obtained from here by manually downloading. Take you Pick. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.12.html (current chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_96.43.01.html (legacy chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_71.86.01.html (old legacy chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.12.html (current chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_96.43.01.html (legacy chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_71.86.01.html (old legacy chipsets) 3.Installation: After you have downloaded the driver (save it in the root folder). You need to be root to do so and install the driver. Now in you terminal you will need to type the following. Applications | Accessories | Terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#telinit 3 Screenshot Here This will take you to runlevel 3 where you can install the driver. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#sh linux_nVidia.. User needs to be aware of getting around in ncurses envir frame buffer etc. Tab and arrors The install will begin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#telinit 5 4. Applications | Systemtools | NVIDIA X Server Settings. You may want to go to X Server Display Configuration to configure you screen resolution. Next you will want to Click on Save to X Server Configuration File. When the dialog box come up you will want to save it to/etc/X11/xorg.conf then click on Save. Now click on Quit to exit the application. Do screenshots for the above??? 5.Alternate driver dowload. Drivers can be obtained from here by manually downloading. Take you Pick. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.12.html (current chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_96.43.01.html (legacy chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_71.86.01.html (old legacy chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.12.html (current chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_96.43.01.html (legacy chipsets) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_71.86.01.html (old legacy chipsets) Problems: If you have problems like Black Squares for Icons, downgrade the driver to the next lowest one before you come to the formums or lists for help. Can be done by:.. -- ~/john OpenPGP Sig:BA91F079 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: Ralph, Akemi, and Ned http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics That will be the Link. Thanks John. I should be able to have a bash at the RPMForge/dkms method in about a week (unless someone beats me to it!). Ned I suppose this page will have a description for the differences between the three methods and how to choose one. ?? Akemi That would be great - thanks for volunteering!!! I was kind of avoiding that one due to lack of experience with methods 1 3. I went straight with method 2 and it has worked great for me, the obvious advantage being that it just works upon a kernel update. YMMV :) What did you have in mind? A separate introductory and/or summary section, or a pros cons for each section and leave the reader to make up their own mind which is best for them (I tend to prefer the latter option). ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
Akemi Yagi wrote: Way to go, Ned. Akemi You're too kind! Question: I already have the RPMForge/dkms driver installed on all my machine(s). How do I best disable/remove the drivers to simulate a fresh install for the purpose of taking notes. I can't remember if I had to configure anything or if it was just a case of installing the RPMForge repo and yum installing dkms and the appropriate nvidia driver. I guess I need to rpm -e them and manually reconfigure xorg.conf back to using the original xorg nv driver? (just checked - I do have a backup of my original pristine vanilla xorg.conf using the nv driver) ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: Way to go, Ned. Akemi You're too kind! Question: I already have the RPMForge/dkms driver installed on all my machine(s). How do I best disable/remove the drivers to simulate a fresh install for the purpose of taking notes. I can't remember if I had to configure anything or if it was just a case of installing the RPMForge repo and yum installing dkms and the appropriate nvidia driver. I guess I need to rpm -e them and manually reconfigure xorg.conf back to using the original xorg nv driver? (just checked - I do have a backup of my original pristine vanilla xorg.conf using the nv driver) Regarding the installation, yum install should take care of dependencies for things like dkms. dkms intern pulls gcc and kernel-devel among other things. There is one potential issue here. If the user is running a non-standard kernel (such as xen), then kernel-devel must be installed manually (kernel-xen-devel, for example). If you are going to delete the nvidia driver to do a simulation, I think rpm -e removes *most* of the stuff installed. I say most because, the original installation of nvidia.ko may have created symlinks in /lib/modules/ and these symlinks are apparently NOT removed by the uninstall script of the nvidia rpm. This may no be so important for your testing but just in case. Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki Link
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:42 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: Way to go, Ned. Akemi You're too kind! Question: I already have the RPMForge/dkms driver installed on all my machine(s). How do I best disable/remove the drivers to simulate a fresh install for the purpose of taking notes. I can't remember if I had to configure anything or if it was just a case of installing the RPMForge repo and yum installing dkms and the appropriate nvidia driver. I guess I need to rpm -e them and manually reconfigure xorg.conf back to using the original xorg nv driver? (just checked - I do have a backup of my original pristine vanilla xorg.conf using the nv driver) Regarding the installation, yum install should take care of dependencies for things like dkms. dkms intern pulls gcc and kernel-devel among other things. There is one potential issue here. If the user is running a non-standard kernel (such as xen), then kernel-devel must be installed manually (kernel-xen-devel, for example). Mention of The Xen-Kernel: Just a thought here. I never used the proprietary nvidia driver with the xen kernel on any install of it I've done. But I beg to know why would you even want to run that when you running Xen? If your running Xen then your not after video acceleration correct? You after I/O and Memory Bandwidth. It's not a problem if you two want to validate a driver install of this weird nature. I can do this. I have the extra machine for testing purposes. The only type of people that would maybe use this combination would be strictly Developers. I can see someone now, I have a Dell Poweredge 1950 with a on board nvidia card and it runs the Xen Hypervisor!!! Only connection to it is a Serial Console! If you are going to delete the nvidia driver to do a simulation, I think rpm -e removes *most* of the stuff installed. I say most because, the original installation of nvidia.ko may have created symlinks in /lib/modules/ and these symlinks are apparently NOT removed by the uninstall script of the nvidia rpm. This may no be so important for your testing but just in case. Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs -- ~/john OpenPGP Sig:BA91F079 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
