Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Hi List my question to everyone is. What is exactly wrong with having helpful documentation on the centos wiki? Does it really matter if the original maintainer documents his app. I for one love the fact i can search threw the wiki and get app#1 working and I also know the procedure has gone threw peer review and i am fairly comfortable it is secure practice. I for one contributed the Multi-Media portion and as many have called it pointless at one time or another All i know is my personal blog gets a few thousand hits per month and I can only imagine the centos wiki gets 100 times more hits. According to multiple post this document should not live on the wiki cause lets be honest 90% of the installed apps to get a full multimedia experience reside outside of what centos ships. I think any documentation is good. I agree maybe docs on how to use grep might be pointless in 90% of the user base but anything that simplifies or paints the nice picture adds to the community. I for one after seeing all the mess with the domain names and the funds and now the wiki feel like centos is imploding on itself. I believe the point of the wiki is un-official documentation and considering all of it is coming from users contributing it, who am i to say good or bad or pointless. I for one have found multiple items in the wiki helpful and believe that limiting content will turn more and more people away. my 2 cents which is not worth much if you factor in the exchange rate. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] contribute on wiki
username GiuseppeCefaratti PostFix HOWTO par 3.3 Create users mailbox ... To setup *Maildir* mail boxes for our example user john we cano use the *“maildirmake”* command. We must do this for existing users and also in */etc/skel* so new users automatically get the same setup. To setup our *Maildir*, change directories to john home and run: maildirmake Maildir To make our sub folders run: maildirmake -f Sent Maildir maildirmake -f Drafts Maildir maildirmake -f Templates Maildir maildirmake -f Junkmail Maildir Now repeat for */etc/skel*. . ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] new wiki article: How to repair a software RAID5 volume with more than one failed disk
Hi, Would anybody comment on this article? Or if everything is fine, may be it is a good idea to link this page from http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks ? -- Lev. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Lev Shamardin wrote: > Hi all, > > I've finally got some time to finish the second article I've promised > to write some time ago; please read it, any comments are welcome: > > http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/Repair_RAID5_Volumes > > -- > Lev. > ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
Hi again. >>> Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. >> >> Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. That probably has to be visible, does it? > > I think so :) I have noticed that it's possible to define the following meta tags manually: #language Set page language and direction. #language language-name keywords adds a tag with keywords which tells search engines what you can find on the particular page. #pragma keywords Cars, Vehicles, Foo description adds a tag which contains the description of the particular page. #pragma description This page is about cars. If that could make sense I would like to offer my help to add them (at least to the English / German pages). Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Ned Slider wrote: ... > > Broad views are good IMHO as I think it's easier to address on a case by > case basis largely as this list does at present by asking to see and > discussing proposed documentation. > ... The list is not deciding these matters. There is no vote. There is only situational reluctance to allow content by certain people. I think maybe that (potential) page hits could be a better metric than the seemingly random way we have now. Is there a greater possibility to have a new/continuing CentOS user be shown content that may "spoon feed" some and give comfort to others on a known good way to accomplish a task using CentOS? Like most have stated, Nagios, for example, is not trivial and overwhelming for most *and* the most recent Nagios Community CentOS 5.2 install is a 404 link (http://community.nagios.org/?s=install). I guess I should move on to Ubuntu or SLES If I google "nagios install", I find a seemingly helpful "Nagios 3 on CentOS: Quick Install Script". That looks promising! *But* it's all a bunch of "make" lines with no status checks... not exactly "generally recommended procedures" is you troll our CentOS mailing lists! So, what are they going to learn? Ubuntu has easy docs for install? SLES10 has rpms? Or a helpful install for a rock solid OS with long term support and a good community to back it up with bonuses like solid documentation and additional repos like epel and rpmforge and elrepo etc I think it is sad that this part of the CentOS "community" can not seem to allow good people to focus on the areas they can "contribute". Or does not allow a member not contribute information that will help correctly and repeatedly and easily (aka spoon feed?) produce positive results with CentOS as the foundation OS. Dev peeps can be Dev peeps; forum helpers can be forum helpers (and spoon feeders), documentation peeps can do that. pjwelsh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Ralph Angenendt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Christopher Chan > >> But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? > > That is a good question. IM not so HO it should contain documentation > which gets people going with things on CentOS. Which is a very broad > view. > Broad views are good IMHO as I think it's easier to address on a case by case basis largely as this list does at present by asking to see and discussing proposed documentation. > Because people will *always* look for documentation on CentOS venues > first before even thinking about going to the sendmail.org webpage, > for example. > > That is one of the reasons why people like Distributions like Ubuntu, > Arch and Gentoo - their documentation is rather extensive. > > Ralph Agreed :) ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
Hi Ralph, >> Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. > > Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. That probably has to be visible, does it? I think so :) Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Ralph, > > have you already generated/submitted a sitemap for moin? Yes. To Google and to Bing - Yahoo is too stupid to accept that sitemap though, as they mash up URLs you give them. Well, they are going to use Bing anyway :) > Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. That probably has to be visible, does it? Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
Dear Ralph, have you already generated/submitted a sitemap for moin? Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: > In conclusion of this thread (and all mentioned options) I have tried > to outline what kind of content should be published on the wiki: > > http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute I'm not quite sure if I share that opinion :) > Feel free to comment and/or update. I will sometime later, probably. Yes. Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: > Would this do as a rule? > > If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if > it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki > (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos > distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as > how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. No, I don't think so. Because many things which *come* with CentOS just work. There are many other things people use on CentOS - and which come from repositories like rpmforge, atrpms, epel or elrepo which are more or less advertised on the CentOS wiki - where someone had trouble setting it up and wrote some document about it. I don't think that we need documentation on how to install something from one of those repos via yum. In my opinion this documentation should at least contain a useful basic configuration, which can get people going on CentOS. If there is a need for cookbook recipes which also can be found elsewhere I don't know, but don't think so. But at least links to those recipes should be there. > But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? That is a good question. IM not so HO it should contain documentation which gets people going with things on CentOS. Which is a very broad view. Because people will *always* look for documentation on CentOS venues first before even thinking about going to the sendmail.org webpage, for example. That is one of the reasons why people like Distributions like Ubuntu, Arch and Gentoo - their documentation is rather extensive. Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Marcus Moeller wrote: > Hi again. > > >> Would this do as a rule? >> >> If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if >> it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki >> (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos >> distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as >> how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. >> >> But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? >> > > In conclusion of this thread (and all mentioned options) I have tried > to outline what kind of content should be published on the wiki: > > http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute > > Thank you Marcus. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Hi again. > Would this do as a rule? > > If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if > it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki > (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos > distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as > how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. > > But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? In conclusion of this thread (and all mentioned options) I have tried to outline what kind of content should be published on the wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute Feel free to comment and/or update. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
