Re: [CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment
Manuel Wolfshant wrote on 08/15/2011 12:53 PM: On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: ... I'd go for a separate page for HowTos/JavaDevelopmentKit but could be persuaded otherwise. Then maybe a single Howto/Java page, with separate links to JRE and JDK ? Makes sense, and I would propose that would replace the current content on http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS - which begs the questions: 1. What else besides links goes on the higher-level page? 2. What should be preserved, if anything, from the current page? Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment
On 08/18/2011 03:21 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: Manuel Wolfshant wrote on 08/15/2011 12:53 PM: On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: ... I'd go for a separate page for HowTos/JavaDevelopmentKit but could be persuaded otherwise. Then maybe a single Howto/Java page, with separate links to JRE and JDK ? Makes sense, and I would propose that would replace the current content on http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS My thoughts exactly ! - which begs the questions: 1. What else besides links goes on the higher-level page? Explanation on the intent of the page 2. What should be preserved, if anything, from the current page? maybe the how to create your own packages by using the old .nosrc.rpm from jpackage part. the rest would be obsoleted. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment
Manuel Wolfshant wrote on 08/18/2011 08:26 AM: On 08/18/2011 03:21 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote: ... 1. What else besides links goes on the higher-level page? Explanation on the intent of the page 2. What should be preserved, if anything, from the current page? maybe the how to create your own packages by using the old .nosrc.rpm from jpackage part. the rest would be obsoleted. Sounds good to me. Now if someone could just get a Round Tuit! Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: Makes sense, and I would propose that would replace the current content on http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS My thoughts exactly ! I am missing something ... a review of google inlinks indicates this page is widely referenced by third party sites. Casually blowing this away without preserving at least parts seems ill considered change for its own sake The top part by me remains a general and valid description of a method for getting Oracle's / Sun Java running ... not perhaps the easiest in light of some later changes, and perhaps not the 'ight' solution in light of the growth in maturity of openjdk ... but that The bottom remains a rotting trainwreck needing maintenance every time Oracle issues an update ... shocking. Who could have predicted that? -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaRuntimeEnvironment
On 08/18/2011 05:52 PM, R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: Makes sense, and I would propose that would replace the current content on http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS My thoughts exactly ! I am missing something ... a review of google inlinks indicates this page is widely referenced by third party sites. Casually blowing this away without preserving at least parts seems ill considered change for its own sake We are not blowing it away. It will remain the land point which will further reference JRE and JDK. Although, now that I started to fill in the JDK page, I am tempted to join them. But we should discuss that once we have more info to play with in the wiki . For now I am trying to bring the new JDK page to life ( and refine the JRE one) The top part by me remains a general and valid description of a method for getting Oracle's / Sun Java running ... not perhaps the easiest in light of some later changes, and perhaps not the 'ight' solution in light of the growth in maturity of openjdk ... but that The top part written by you is exactly what we'll refine. The last round of packages from Oracle are quite sane. You download a $STUFF.bin, run it and - it will ask to agree to the license - expand into a bunch of rpm packages: jdk-6u27-linux-i586.rpm sun-javadb-client-10.6.2-1.1.i386.rpm sun-javadb-common-10.6.2-1.1.i386.rpm sun-javadb-core-10.6.2-1.1.i386.rpm sun-javadb-demo-10.6.2-1.1.i386.rpm sun-javadb-docs-10.6.2-1.1.i386.rpm sun-javadb-javadoc-10.6.2-1.1.i386.rpm - install all the packages ( if you have the needed rights) What is still needed is a clean solution to add that to the alternatives system The bottom remains a rotting trainwreck needing maintenance every time Oracle issues an update ... shocking. Who could have predicted that? The old method to create several rpms from the tar bundle ( using jpackage's nosrc ) is completely obsolete. rant mode on Did I mention that moinmoin's syntax is awful and I cannot believe I even thought about using it inside the company I work for ? /rant mode off ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs