Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
On 11/07/2008, Filipe Brandenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This content today exists here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/I_need_the_Kernel_Source#head-a8dae925eec15786df9f6f8c918eff16bf67be0d By all means refer to it but please do not modify it. I would suggest creating these two: 1) http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/RebuildSRPM - what SRPMs are, how to download them, how to install them, how to rebuild them - link to the other page on how to set up your rpm-build environment What other page? 2) http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment - install rpm-build package with yum - set up ~/.rpmmacros - tips on packages that are usually needed when building rpms (*-devel, gcc, make, etc.) Yes. Once those pages are done, the page on building the kernel may refer to that one for the generic instructions on how to set up rpm building environment. No. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: As discussed on the centos-users list, I would like to create some pages on the CentOS Wiki with instructions on how to set up your environment to build RPMs and how to rebuild RPMs. ummm ... it exists several places .. also, out pointers at: http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Rpm I would suggest creating these two: 1) http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/RebuildSRPM 2) http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment I guess the question in my mind becomes multiplication and maintenance. How is it a win to add yet more pages, rather than extend the existing one; the whole topic of packag building -- as root, as an end user, in a chroot, in a chroot with defined base packages, using one of the several tools from mach, on ... ? -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
Alan Bartlett wrote: By all means refer to it but please do not modify it. Why? Once those pages are done, the page on building the kernel may refer to that one for the generic instructions on how to set up rpm building environment. No. Again: Why? Ralph pgpSE0XeEcV3C.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
R P Herrold wrote: I guess the question in my mind becomes multiplication and maintenance. Well, the existing pages have rather short snippets on that issue. If there were to be pages which explain the issues at hand in a more verbose way, then one can edit out the snippets and link to the more verbose pages. I think that this is a good idea to avoid multiplication. How is it a win to add yet more pages, rather than extend the existing one; the whole topic of packag building -- as root, as an end user, in a chroot, in a chroot with defined base packages, using one of the several tools from mach, on ... ? I think that extending stuff into own articles is a great way to reach the goal you showed in your last sentence ... IMHO at least. Cheers, Ralph pgpuUmsEkE4Zp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
On 11/07/2008, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Bartlett wrote: By all means refer to it but please do not modify it. Why? Because a considerable amount of work has been put into maintaining the three inter-related pages (of which that is one) and they are currently maintained. Once those pages are done, the page on building the kernel may refer to that one for the generic instructions on how to set up rpm building environment. No. Again: Why? Think about it, Ralph. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R P Herrold wrote: I guess the question in my mind becomes multiplication and maintenance. Well, the existing pages have rather short snippets on that issue. If there were to be pages which explain the issues at hand in a more verbose way, then one can edit out the snippets and link to the more verbose pages. I think that this is a good idea to avoid multiplication. How is it a win to add yet more pages, rather than extend the existing one; the whole topic of packag building -- as root, as an end user, in a chroot, in a chroot with defined base packages, using one of the several tools from mach, on ... ? I think that extending stuff into own articles is a great way to reach the goal you showed in your last sentence ... When helping in the forums, there often is a need to explain how to build from srpm. Currently, there is no *single* point of reference that I can use. So, yes, I think it is a good idea to have a page which can cover the entire topic. Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
R P Herrold wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Filipe Brandenburger wrote: As discussed on the centos-users list, I would like to create some pages on the CentOS Wiki with instructions on how to set up your environment to build RPMs and how to rebuild RPMs. ummm ... it exists several places .. also, out pointers at: http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Rpm I think this is best place to start refactoring from. My views on this : 1) drop all external links to other websites that dont have comprehensive and centos specific content. Contact the people on those websites to see if they will bring in updated content, if not, - move that content into wiki.centos.org ( if licensing permits it ) 2) Have a section on building rpms, whats involved and why its a good idea. 3) use the /PackageManagement/ trunk to farm out pages that address parallel setups that people must live with, and notes on how best to integrate that into an rpm environment ( think... gems, pear, cpan, easy_setup. egg etc ) I guess the question in my mind becomes multiplication and maintenance. I agree. for this issue, perhaps there already is a fair bit of multiple sources of info and could do with a bit of refactoring down into a structure. How is it a win to add yet more pages, rather than extend the existing one; the whole topic of packag building -- as root, as an end user, in a chroot, in a chroot with defined base packages, using one of the several tools from mach, on ... ? on a related note, I wonder if some of these bits might be script'able and we might be able to provide some of these scripts. - KB ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment
Alan Bartlett wrote: On 11/07/2008, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Bartlett wrote: By all means refer to it but please do not modify it. Why? Because a considerable amount of work has been put into maintaining the three inter-related pages (of which that is one) and they are currently maintained. So? That shoudln't/doesn't keep others from improving those pages and the wiki. Once those pages are done, the page on building the kernel may refer to that one for the generic instructions on how to set up rpm building environment. No. Again: Why? Think about it, Ralph. I did. It's a wiki. So anyone who wants to improve on a page is invited to do so. Sure, if someone is maintaining that page those people should work together. But I really did not expect a No. without any explanation here. Ralph pgpOgcYpgwWP2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
