Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p Sure, be my guest. I took this one on a newly installed machine that was going to be scratched anyway. So I didn't see the point in creating a user. Little did I know the username was visible somewhere ;-) Hmm, maybe if the artwork SIG has time for this, they (no doubt) can make a more appealing screenshot that is technically and estethically better. I am also not convinced about the black border, but I lack the proper skills to make it match with the rest of the project style. I already wrote Al a mail on that. I guess we are going to find a way to make it look prettier, but my though still is that a screenshot on the frontpage is simply not necessary nor useful. It also does not scale well on small devices (try to take a look at it on your e71). Instead I would suggest to put a set of screenshots either on a separate page or on the 'Download' site. I do agree that it does not look very good on my Nokia E71. On the other hand, how many of the visitors are using a mobile phone ? We may never know. If we find a solution that works for both I am happy to implement it in the future. However based on your suggestion I took some time to improve how it looks. I got rid of the black border and Enlarge screenshot link. I found a way to make a clickable image, which may open the door to having a FrontPage that consists of clickable images too ? :) I also created a seperate Screenshot wiki page to collect attractive screenshots of CentOS. My vision for this page would be to showcase some interesting visual applications (and maybe even visual attractive console stuff) and collect them on that page. (I prefer to not put screenshots there that distract users with different themes or complex configurations) The image still needs to be replaced, but I have yet to receive an improved version (both a 400x300 and a full size 1024x768). New images can be added, we just have to think of a way to make that managable. Alain, In case you were looking for this as well (I guess you would be the #1 user of things like this), the solution is this: ||[[ImageLink(screenshot-centos-small.png,Screenshots,width=400)]]|| or ||[[ImageLink(screenshot-centos-small.png,attachment:screenshot-centos.png,width=400)]]|| or simply look at the following page for more examples: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnMacros/ImageLink Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, d...@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Hi again, I don't think it's a good idea to put a screenshot on the frontpage as the wiki should be used as technical reference and give an overview about the project itself as well as it's outcomes . I agree that a visual impression of CentOS would be nice but I think it shouldn't be part of the wiki frontpage. You may want to take a look at ... an option could be to add a set of screenshots to the bottom of the Download page showing current screenshots of the latest available versions. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Marcus Moeller wrote: Dear Dag. .. This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. I don't think it's a good idea to put a screenshot on the frontpage as... I actually quite like it :) You may want to take a look at openSUSE.org to see how it's handled there. They make use of some AJAX elements to keep the content in front. IMHO, the opensuse.org front page is visually light years ahead of anything CentOS currently has to offer on the InterWeb. Just my opinion... I'll go put on my flame-proof suit now ;) ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Dag Wieers wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Fabian Arrotin wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p Sure, be my guest. I took this one on a newly installed machine that was going to be scratched anyway. So I didn't see the point in creating a user. Little did I know the username was visible somewhere ;-) Hmm, maybe if the artwork SIG has time for this, they (no doubt) can make a more appealing screenshot that is technically and estethically better. I am also not convinced about the black border, but I lack the proper skills to make it match with the rest of the project style. I actually got the idea for the screenshot and the MoinMoin code from the FOSDEM 2009 page, which I like because it has a picture ;-) -- -- dag wieers, d...@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Dear Dag, This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p Sure, be my guest. I took this one on a newly installed machine that was going to be scratched anyway. So I didn't see the point in creating a user. Little did I know the username was visible somewhere ;-) Hmm, maybe if the artwork SIG has time for this, they (no doubt) can make a more appealing screenshot that is technically and estethically better. I am also not convinced about the black border, but I lack the proper skills to make it match with the rest of the project style. I already wrote Al a mail on that. I guess we are going to find a way to make it look prettier, but my though still is that a screenshot on the frontpage is simply not necessary nor useful. It also does not scale well on small devices (try to take a look at it on your e71). Instead I would suggest to put a set of screenshots either on a separate page or on the 'Download' site. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Marcus Moeller wrote: Dear Dag, This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p Sure, be my guest. I took this one on a newly installed machine that was going to be scratched anyway. So I didn't see the point in creating a user. Little did I know the username was visible somewhere ;-) Hmm, maybe if the artwork SIG has time for this, they (no doubt) can make a more appealing screenshot that is technically and estethically better. Took about 2 minutes with KolourPaint to fix the image to get rid of root, but I lack edit rights on the FrontPage and didn't want to hit the list with an almost 200K image attachment. By the way, the large image can be compressed to a substantially smaller (storage) size without too much degradation. Would be glad to supply my hacked version on request. I am also not convinced about the black border, but I lack the proper skills to make it match with the rest of the project style. I already wrote Al a mail on that. I guess we are going to find a way to make it look prettier, but my though still is that a screenshot on the frontpage is simply not necessary nor useful. It also does not scale well on small devices (try to take a look at it on your e71). Sure makes the page look bad on my N800 Internet Tablet. The opensuse.org page looks a bit better on that device than the current FrontPage, including the handling of screenshots, but is still rather heavy on the graphics for small devices. Checking out the openSUSE page Shop link did stimulate me to find the Promo Sig's to-do list for merchandising branded goods and the included link to http://centos.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/ which might be another good idea for the FrontPage, but guess that's somewhat OT for this list. Instead I would suggest to put a set of screenshots either on a separate page or on the 'Download' site. +1 for a separate page. Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Hi, This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. I know I should have put it on the development wiki first and get consensus, but sadly I cannot find the development wiki (thought it was wiki-m.centos.org, but that one is not responding). If people object to it, feel free to remove it. However I think it looks fine, even when the screenshot could be improved. (Although we should not make the screenshot too complex) -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
Dag Wieers wrote: Hi, This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p I know I should have put it on the development wiki first and get consensus, but sadly I cannot find the development wiki (thought it was wiki-m.centos.org, but that one is not responding). If people object to it, feel free to remove it. However I think it looks fine, even when the screenshot could be improved. (Although we should not make the screenshot too complex) -- - Fabian Arrotin fabian.arro...@arrfab.net Internet network currently down, TCP/IP packets delivered now by UPS/Fedex ... ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Screenshot on FrontPage
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Fabian Arrotin wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: This is to notify that I have put a screenshot on the FrontPage. It is not an exciting screenshot, just a simple default desktop with the browser opened and pointed to the wiki itself. hmm, is it possible to at least take the screenshot as a *non* root user ? I don't think the goal is to provide wiki users bad habits :-p Sure, be my guest. I took this one on a newly installed machine that was going to be scratched anyway. So I didn't see the point in creating a user. Little did I know the username was visible somewhere ;-) -- -- dag wieers, d...@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
