Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-09 Thread Jim Perrin


On 09/08/2014 11:47 PM, Bert wrote:
 Hi Jim
 
 My WikiName is BertGarrett-Tuck
 Alias is BertNZ


I've added you to the
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/CentOSUpgradeTool page.

You should be able to make your changes there.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-08 Thread Jim Perrin


On 09/06/2014 02:54 AM, Bert wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've reviewed and am performing some tests for the V6 to V7 preupgrade
 assistant.  I have some suggestions for the wiki page.
 
 I have started a google doc with some suggested additions. They will most
 likely be added to as I discuss stuff with the dev mailing list.
 Whoever is responsible for maintaining the upgrade guide page on the wiki,
 could you give me some feedback please.
 
 Here's a shared doc link.  Can copy/paste if Google Docs is too problematic.
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YMmrhmT6NR2naBnAmR5B6a8Ay8Xv9-0ORp7m-nt8QPw/edit?usp=sharing


A cursory check shows these to be reasonably sane (except for the pipes
into 'more' :-P )

Anyone have objections to adding Bert for the contribution on this page?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/08/2014 01:16 PM, Jim Perrin wrote:
 
 
 On 09/06/2014 02:54 AM, Bert wrote:
 Hi

 I've reviewed and am performing some tests for the V6 to V7 preupgrade
 assistant.  I have some suggestions for the wiki page.

 I have started a google doc with some suggested additions. They will most
 likely be added to as I discuss stuff with the dev mailing list.
 Whoever is responsible for maintaining the upgrade guide page on the wiki,
 could you give me some feedback please.

 Here's a shared doc link.  Can copy/paste if Google Docs is too problematic.

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YMmrhmT6NR2naBnAmR5B6a8Ay8Xv9-0ORp7m-nt8QPw/edit?usp=sharing
 
 
 A cursory check shows these to be reasonably sane (except for the pipes
 into 'more' :-P )
 
 Anyone have objections to adding Bert for the contribution on this page?
 

go for it

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-08 Thread Jim Perrin


On 09/06/2014 02:54 AM, Bert wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've reviewed and am performing some tests for the V6 to V7 preupgrade
 assistant.  I have some suggestions for the wiki page.
 
 I have started a google doc with some suggested additions. They will most
 likely be added to as I discuss stuff with the dev mailing list.
 Whoever is responsible for maintaining the upgrade guide page on the wiki,
 could you give me some feedback please.
 
 Here's a shared doc link.  Can copy/paste if Google Docs is too problematic.
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YMmrhmT6NR2naBnAmR5B6a8Ay8Xv9-0ORp7m-nt8QPw/edit?usp=sharing


What's your wiki username? I'll add you to the acl.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-08 Thread Bert
Hi Jim

My WikiName is BertGarrett-Tuck
Alias is BertNZ

Cheers
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-08 Thread Bert
**  I've heard back from Karanbir and Jim Perrin so far.  Would anyone else
like to be included in the development of the upgrade guide? **

I think the jury may be out on how reasonably sane I am.  I've been able
to achieve a smooth upgrade process 3 times now, once on a production
server (though that had no web-related role).  Overall I'm fairly confident
with the process so am keen to include some recommended actions for how to
mitigate something going wrong during the upgrade.

There's a little bit of negative FUD out there on the web about the upgrade
process.  A few people have blogged about the upgrade process (good and
bad) and I feel there's a fair bit of room for expansion in the wiki to
include their feedback, as well as for what I would suggest terming an
upgrade process best practices.  I suggest expanding on the content so
people have a guide to a fairly smooth experience or at least a minimal
risk of catastrophic failure, and how to tidy up after the upgrade.

** could someone moderate the comment at the end of this post please?
http://seven.centos.org/2014/07/testing-centos-6-to-centos-7-upgrades-via-centos-testing-repo/
This is the biggest load of shit I’ve come across, it’s worse than Windows
8.

I'm keen to develop the upgrade guide to a point so users avoid many
catastrophic failures - because there'll be users who don't bother taking
a backup of their system prior to actually ploughing ahead with it and then
cry for help when it goes terribly wrong ;-) - and at the very least I feel
we should guide people on how to review the preupgrade assistant report and
look for serious warnings, and how to mitigate against them, so they can
achieve an upgrade instead of a fresh install.

I realise though that there is a line to be drawn between what's suitable
as official documentation and a bit too much.

Seem reasonable?


On 9 September 2014 00:16, Jim Perrin jper...@centos.org wrote:



 On 09/06/2014 02:54 AM, Bert wrote:
  Hi
 
  I've reviewed and am performing some tests for the V6 to V7 preupgrade
  assistant.  I have some suggestions for the wiki page.
 
  I have started a google doc with some suggested additions. They will most
  likely be added to as I discuss stuff with the dev mailing list.
  Whoever is responsible for maintaining the upgrade guide page on the
 wiki,
  could you give me some feedback please.
 
  Here's a shared doc link.  Can copy/paste if Google Docs is too
 problematic.
 
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YMmrhmT6NR2naBnAmR5B6a8Ay8Xv9-0ORp7m-nt8QPw/edit?usp=sharing


 A cursory check shows these to be reasonably sane (except for the pipes
 into 'more' :-P )

 Anyone have objections to adding Bert for the contribution on this page?

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