Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
Am 07.10.10 23:55, schrieb Phil Schaffner: > Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 05:25 PM: >> BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay. i simply don't have edit >> rights. > > Perhaps Ralph will now be willing to remedy that. For which pages exactly (at first)? Sorry, was away for a week, but I see the rest of the discussion has already happened. :) Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On 8 October 2010 12:49, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 06:17 PM: > ... >> which is actually fine with me. really. i'm good with just posting >> suggestions and fixes for the time being. > > That's why I suggested you request edit rights for one or more of the > pages you have suggested be substantially changed. The usual route to > global rights is to do some good work on specific targets, usually with > a new page, or pages, and to become known to the -docs list members. > For new pages it is usually (IMHO) a good idea to put a draft out for > review by the list, even for established members with global edit rights. My suggestion for Rob is a page that really needs a maintainer and significant editorial work, due to age induced "rotting" -- HowTo Install Java on CentOS 4 and CentOS 5 [1]. It is a page (as a whole) that regularly receives a "black look" from me whenever it comes into my view and is, I know, a page that Russ regards as an example of poor wiki practice. Alan. [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 06:17 PM: ... > which is actually fine with me. really. i'm good with just posting > suggestions and fixes for the time being. That's why I suggested you request edit rights for one or more of the pages you have suggested be substantially changed. The usual route to global rights is to do some good work on specific targets, usually with a new page, or pages, and to become known to the -docs list members. For new pages it is usually (IMHO) a good idea to put a draft out for review by the list, even for established members with global edit rights. Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On 7 October 2010 23:04, R P Herrold wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Alan Bartlett wrote: >> On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold wrote: >>> ehh? Where? Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be >>> missing something > >>> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html >> I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come >> across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some >> recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki > heh -- as Robert P. J. Day is [and was, and for a long time > has been at least reputationally ;) ] known to me for a long > time, we've spoken, etc I am quite sure I would have > remembered a flat turndown if I had seen it I knew you'd enjoy my parenthesised "relatively unknown", Russ. :-) Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On 7 October 2010 23:17, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote: >> On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold wrote: >>> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them. so i'm just posting suggestions. >> >>> ehh? Where? Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be >>> missing something >>> >>> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html >> >> I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come >> across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some >> recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki >> edit rights and a response telling them that it wasn't going to >> happen. > > Perhaps you remember this post on the main ML? > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2010-September/099474.html > > And Rob was given a proper answer for which he thanked. :) Ah, the main (a.k.a general) m/l which (for reasons not relevant to this list) I do not regularly monitor. Akemi's extensive dbase prevails, once again. :-) Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote: > On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >>> i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them. >>> so i'm just posting suggestions. > >> ehh? Where? Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be >> missing something >> >> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html > > I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come > across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some > recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki > edit rights and a response telling them that it wasn't going to > happen. Perhaps you remember this post on the main ML? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2010-September/099474.html And Rob was given a proper answer for which he thanked. :) Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, R P Herrold wrote: > heh -- as Robert P. J. Day is [and was, and for a long time has been > at least reputationally ;) ] known to me for a long time, we've > spoken, etc I am quite sure I would have remembered a flat turndown > if I had seen it > > But the issue is: global edit rights for a relative newcomer > (publicly) to CentOS who has not previously sought to be part > of this culture > > and global edit rights is not going to happen 'out of the > gate' for reasons copiously talked about, blogged about, etc which is actually fine with me. really. i'm good with just posting suggestions and fixes for the time being. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Alan Bartlett wrote: > On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them. >>> so i'm just posting suggestions. >> ehh? Where? Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be >> missing something >> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html > I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come > across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some > recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki heh -- as Robert P. J. Day is [and was, and for a long time has been at least reputationally ;) ] known to me for a long time, we've spoken, etc I am quite sure I would have remembered a flat turndown if I had seen it But the issue is: global edit rights for a relative newcomer (publicly) to CentOS who has not previously sought to be part of this culture and global edit rights is not going to happen 'out of the gate' for reasons copiously talked about, blogged about, etc -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On 7 October 2010 22:37, R P Herrold wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them. >> so i'm just posting suggestions. > ehh? Where? Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be > missing something > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html I know my memory doesn't hold the exact details of everything I come across these days (as if it ever did) but I'm sure I would have some recollection of a (relatively unknown) person requesting global wiki edit rights and a response telling them that it wasn't going to happen. Like Russ, I also have checked (somewhat quickly) and found nothing obvious in the archive. Do you recall who it was who declined the request? Essentially, no person gets immediate global edit rights. It starts with a page or section and certain people will then keep a watch on what is done. :-) Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 05:25 PM: > BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay. i simply don't have edit > rights. Perhaps Ralph will now be willing to remedy that. Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them. > so i'm just posting suggestions. ehh? Where? Not that I see, cruising this, but I may be missing something http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2010-September/thread.html -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 07:51 AM: > ... > >ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply post > > proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text should > > be replaced by newer text? > > Perhaps it is time to remedy that situation. Have you created a > WikiName (RobertDay might be a good choice) and requested edit > rights to a page or pages? BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay. i simply don't have edit rights. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Phil Schaffner wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 07:51 AM: > ... > >ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply > > post proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text > > should be replaced by newer text? > > Perhaps it is time to remedy that situation. Have you created a > WikiName (RobertDay might be a good choice) and requested edit > rights to a page or pages? i asked for those rights once and was told i wasn't getting them. so i'm just posting suggestions. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 07:51 AM: ... >ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply post > proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text should > be replaced by newer text? Perhaps it is time to remedy that situation. Have you created a WikiName (RobertDay might be a good choice) and requested edit rights to a page or pages? Phil ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > here: > > > > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH > > > > the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is > > given as: > > > > "Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the > > authorized_keys list: > > > > $ cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" > > > > i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of > > using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone. > > Remember that this was likely written for CentOS 4, which did not > have that tool as part of openssh. So we might want to provide an > option for both cases ? ah, good point. i suspect the most effective rewrite would be 3 parts: * a general description of what is being done, files involved, what's copied, proper file/dir permissions for it to work properly, etc. * the manual way it's done on centos 4 * the newer, simpler centos 5 way involving ssh-copy-id and that would do it. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > here: > > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH > > the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is > given as: > > "Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the > authorized_keys list: > > $ cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" > > i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of > using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone. Remember that this was likely written for CentOS 4, which did not have that tool as part of openssh. So we might want to provide an option for both cases ? -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Ned Slider wrote: > On 07/10/10 12:29, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > >here: > > > > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH > > > > the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is > > given as: > > > > "Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the > > authorized_keys list: > > > > $ cat id_rsa.pub>> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" > > > >i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of > > using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone. > > > > rday > > > > Thanks for volunteering :-) > > Please submit your proposed changes to this list and we can make it > happen. ok, since i don't have edit access to the wiki, do i simply post proposed changes to this list in terms of precisely what text should be replaced by newer text? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On 07/10/10 12:29, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >here: > > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH > > the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is > given as: > > "Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the > authorized_keys list: > > $ cat id_rsa.pub>> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" > >i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of > using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone. > > rday > Thanks for volunteering :-) Please submit your proposed changes to this list and we can make it happen. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH the recipe for how to copy your id_rsa.pub file to a remote system is given as: "Copy the public key (id_rsa.pub) to the server and install it to the authorized_keys list: $ cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" i suspect it would be better if that were rewritten in terms of using ssh-copy-id, just to be simpler and less error-prone. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
