Re: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)

2012-12-08 Thread Dmitry E. Mikhailov
On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 06:48 +0100, Zoltan Frombach wrote:
 I've also heard that older versions of Windows don't put the CPU to 
 idle mode even when there is nothing to do. It is a known problem with 
 older Windows kernels.
Windows is installed without ACPI, this way the CPU does not get IDLE 
instructions and Windows uses all vCPU time it can get.
I don't know why ACPI is deactivated by default - some say performance
without ACPI is higher, some say because of compatibility - anyway you
have to choose between high load of host machine's CPU at ALL time or
the best performance of Windows virtual machine when under load.

My choice is to enable ACPI on windows virtual machines and the problem
is solved.

#virsh edit WinXP

  features
acpi/
apic/
pae/
  /features


You should have acpi/ in features. If you don't - add it.

Another way to add it is to open virtual machine manager (virt-manager),
open virtual machine there, go to 'details' (button with blue 'i' on
it), look in 'overview' screen, open 'Machine Settings', mark 'enable
ACPI' there.

Best regards,
Dmitry Mikhailov.



 Anyway, try to install the latest virtio drivers for Windows if you 
 don't already have.
 
 On 12/7/2012 9:18 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:
About the only thing you can do is not run Windows, or at least that
  version, XP does the same thing, continuouslys spins the CPU when there 
  aren't
  any user processes using time.  I've heard this is resolved in Windows-7 but
  haven't tried it personally.
 
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  On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Shawn Everett wrote:
 
  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:02:14 -0800
  From: Shawn Everett sh...@tandac.com
  Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
   centos-virt@centos.org
  To: centos-virt@centos.org
  Subject: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)
 
  Hi All,
 
  I have recently installed CentOS 6.3 with QEMU+KVM for Virtualization.
 
  I have successfully created a Windows 2003 VM with 4GB of RAM.  The host
  server is an HP ML350 G8 with 24GB RAM and 24 cores.  Details of one of
  the cores is shown below:
 
  processor   : 23
  vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
  cpu family  : 6
  model   : 45
  model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 0 @ 2.00GHz
  stepping: 7
  cpu MHz : 1200.000
  cache size  : 15360 KB
  physical id : 1
  siblings: 12
  core id : 5
  cpu cores   : 6
  apicid  : 43
  initial apicid  : 43
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 13
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca
  cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx
  pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology
  nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2
  ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx lahf_lm
  ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
  bogomips: 3989.86
  clflush size: 64
  cache_alignment : 64
  address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  power management:
 
  On an otherwise completely idle system I've noticed the load to be 1.0 to
  1.5 range.  Running top shows the culprit to be: qemu-kvm.
 
  Is this normal behavior?  I would have expected the load to be pretty 
  light.
 
  Stopping the VM restores the load to normal once again.
 
  Is there anything I can do to reduce the load?
 
  Shawn
 
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Re: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)

2012-12-08 Thread SilverTip257
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Zoltan Frombach zol...@frombach.comwrote:

 I've also heard that older versions of Windows don't put the CPU to
 idle mode even when there is nothing to do. It is a known problem with
 older Windows kernels.


Windows 98 and the like don't idle.  It requires software to help idle the
CPU usage.  So I've read - I believe a table on the libvirt site says Win98
is no longer possible.



 Anyway, try to install the latest virtio drivers for Windows if you
 don't already have.


I have a WinXP Pro 32bit VM with virtio drivers and it runs just fine.
I don't watch the load on it, so I don't know if its CPU goes idle.  I'll
have to take a peek at it next week.

Is the OP absolutely certain that there is no process running that would
consume that small amount of CPU?  I'd be more concerned if the usage was
10% or greater when the system _should_ be idle.



 On 12/7/2012 9:18 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:
About the only thing you can do is not run Windows, or at least
 that
  version, XP does the same thing, continuouslys spins the CPU when there
 aren't
  any user processes using time.  I've heard this is resolved in Windows-7
 but
  haven't tried it personally.
 
 
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  On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Shawn Everett wrote:
 
  Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:02:14 -0800
  From: Shawn Everett sh...@tandac.com
  Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
   centos-virt@centos.org
  To: centos-virt@centos.org
  Subject: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)
 
  Hi All,
 
  I have recently installed CentOS 6.3 with QEMU+KVM for Virtualization.
 
  I have successfully created a Windows 2003 VM with 4GB of RAM.  The host
  server is an HP ML350 G8 with 24GB RAM and 24 cores.  Details of one of
  the cores is shown below:
 
  processor   : 23
  vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
  cpu family  : 6
  model   : 45
  model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 0 @ 2.00GHz
  stepping: 7
  cpu MHz : 1200.000
  cache size  : 15360 KB
  physical id : 1
  siblings: 12
  core id : 5
  cpu cores   : 6
  apicid  : 43
  initial apicid  : 43
  fpu : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level : 13
  wp  : yes
  flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca
  cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall
 nx
  pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology
  nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est
 tm2
  ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx
 lahf_lm
  ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
  bogomips: 3989.86
  clflush size: 64
  cache_alignment : 64
  address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  power management:
 
  On an otherwise completely idle system I've noticed the load to be 1.0
 to
  1.5 range.  Running top shows the culprit to be: qemu-kvm.
 
  Is this normal behavior?  I would have expected the load to be pretty
 light.
 
  Stopping the VM restores the load to normal once again.
 
  Is there anything I can do to reduce the load?
 
  Shawn
 
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Re: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)

2012-12-08 Thread Steve Thompson
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, SilverTip257 wrote:

 I have a WinXP Pro 32bit VM with virtio drivers and it runs just fine.
 I don't watch the load on it, so I don't know if its CPU goes idle.  I'll
 have to take a peek at it next week.

I have XP, 2003 and Win7 with virtio drivers, and the CPU does go idle on
all of them when Windows is doing nothing. However, Windows is often not
doing nothing; make sure that you have volume indexing, for example, 
turned off.

Steve
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