[CentOS-virt] Plan to update to Xen 4.6

2015-11-03 Thread George Dunlap
When we started the Virt SIG, our stated goal was to support one
recent version of Xen with a recent kernel.  We updated at that time
to Xen 4.4, as the most recent stable release.  We skipped 4.5; but
now with 4.6 out, I think it's about time to upgrade.

Moving to 4.6 has several distinct advantages for CentOS 7.  Xen 4.4
has no systemd integration, while Xen 4.6 does.  Additionally, Xen 4.4
has an insufficient level of ARM support, while Xen 4.6 does.

The Xen releases are heavily tested upstream, not only by the
open-source team, but by the vendors who build their products on Xen.
I'm fairly confident that moving forward to Xen 4.6 should be a
relatively safe maneuver for most people.

So I shall be moving towards releasing Xen 4.6 for CentOS 6 in the not
too distant future.

That said, the Virt SIG is a community effort -- if anyone in the
community wants to step up and maintain the Xen 4.4 packages within
the SIG, they would be welcome to do so.  The burden of doing the
maintenance should not be too high.

Security updates will continue for 4.4 until the 4.6 packages are
fully ready (and may continue for a month or  two afterwards,
depending on severity, to provide a transition period).

 -George
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Resigning as lead of the Virt SIG

2015-11-03 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/03/2015 08:53 AM, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I wanted to let you know that I feel I need to step down as leader of the 
> Virtualisation SIG. When I originally was approached by KB to do this, it was 
> always clear that this would be a temporary thing until the SIG got going. At 
> the time, only Xen and CentOS folks were involved with the SIG. Since then, 
> we added oVirt and Docker maintainers, have a total of 5 maintainers and 
> built good momentum.
> 
> There are two reasons why I feel I should step down as leader of the Virt 
> SIG: a) I have been traveling too much and thus did not have the bandwidth to 
> do this job justice in recent months. b) In addition, it would also make more 
> sense for one of the Virt SIG maintainers who is more closely involved with 
> day-to-day activities to pick up this job. I will still be able to help with 
> PR and other items.  
> 
> When I was absent over the last few months, George Dunlap (gwd on irc) did 
> most of the groundwork and led SIG meetings on my behalf, so I wanted to 
> propose that George leads the SIG going forward. That is assuming that none 
> of the other SIG maintainers want to step up. George agreed in principle.
> 
> In the last Virt SIG meeting, not all maintainers were present, so we 
> couldn't make a formal decision. KB said the following:
> 
> kbsingh: I think if gwd is ok with it, and people are ok in the SIG, its good 
> for me
> 
> This means that succession either has to be settled in the next SIG meeting, 
> or by e-mail responding to this thread. I don't think there is any formal 
> process, but I would suggest that the maintainers listed on 
> https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization should have a say 
> either at the next IRC meeting or by replying to this email thread.
> 
> Best Regards
> Lars

Lars,

Slacker :)

George Dunlap is fine with me.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes




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Re: [CentOS-virt] Plan to update to Xen 4.6

2015-11-03 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/03/2015 11:04 AM, George Dunlap wrote:
> When we started the Virt SIG, our stated goal was to support one
> recent version of Xen with a recent kernel.  We updated at that time
> to Xen 4.4, as the most recent stable release.  We skipped 4.5; but
> now with 4.6 out, I think it's about time to upgrade.
> 
> Moving to 4.6 has several distinct advantages for CentOS 7.  Xen 4.4
> has no systemd integration, while Xen 4.6 does.  Additionally, Xen 4.4
> has an insufficient level of ARM support, while Xen 4.6 does.
> 
> The Xen releases are heavily tested upstream, not only by the
> open-source team, but by the vendors who build their products on Xen.
> I'm fairly confident that moving forward to Xen 4.6 should be a
> relatively safe maneuver for most people.
> 
> So I shall be moving towards releasing Xen 4.6 for CentOS 6 in the not
> too distant future.
> 
> That said, the Virt SIG is a community effort -- if anyone in the
> community wants to step up and maintain the Xen 4.4 packages within
> the SIG, they would be welcome to do so.  The burden of doing the
> maintenance should not be too high.
> 
> Security updates will continue for 4.4 until the 4.6 packages are
> fully ready (and may continue for a month or  two afterwards,
> depending on severity, to provide a transition period).
> 

I agree with this.  The goal was always to do even numbered releases as
a general rule.  So moving from 4.4 to 4.6 is a great idea.  I concur
100% with this approach.  Obviously we will test the upgrade from 4.4.x
to 4.6.

>  -George




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[CentOS-virt] Resigning as lead of the Virt SIG

2015-11-03 Thread Lars Kurth
Hi all,

I wanted to let you know that I feel I need to step down as leader of the 
Virtualisation SIG. When I originally was approached by KB to do this, it was 
always clear that this would be a temporary thing until the SIG got going. At 
the time, only Xen and CentOS folks were involved with the SIG. Since then, we 
added oVirt and Docker maintainers, have a total of 5 maintainers and built 
good momentum.

There are two reasons why I feel I should step down as leader of the Virt SIG: 
a) I have been traveling too much and thus did not have the bandwidth to do 
this job justice in recent months. b) In addition, it would also make more 
sense for one of the Virt SIG maintainers who is more closely involved with 
day-to-day activities to pick up this job. I will still be able to help with PR 
and other items.  

When I was absent over the last few months, George Dunlap (gwd on irc) did most 
of the groundwork and led SIG meetings on my behalf, so I wanted to propose 
that George leads the SIG going forward. That is assuming that none of the 
other SIG maintainers want to step up. George agreed in principle.

In the last Virt SIG meeting, not all maintainers were present, so we couldn't 
make a formal decision. KB said the following:

kbsingh: I think if gwd is ok with it, and people are ok in the SIG, its good 
for me

This means that succession either has to be settled in the next SIG meeting, or 
by e-mail responding to this thread. I don't think there is any formal process, 
but I would suggest that the maintainers listed on 
https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Virtualization should have a say 
either at the next IRC meeting or by replying to this email thread.

Best Regards
Lars

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