Re: [ceph-users] Cache pool tiering SSD journal

2015-01-18 Thread lidc...@redhat.com
No, if you used cache tiering, It is no need to use ssd journal again.

From: Florent MONTHEL
Date: 2015-01-17 23:43
To: ceph-users
Subject: [ceph-users] Cache pool tiering  SSD journal
Hi list,

With cache pool tiering (in write back mode) enhancement, should I keep to use 
SSD journal on SSD ?
Can we have 1 big SSD pool for caching for all low cost storage pools ?
Thanks

Florent Monthel





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Re: [ceph-users] Cache pool tiering SSD journal

2015-01-18 Thread Mark Nelson

On 01/17/2015 08:17 PM, lidc...@redhat.com wrote:

No, if you used cache tiering, It is no need to use ssd journal again.


The cache tiering and SSD journals serve a somewhat different purpose. 
In Ceph, all of the data for every single write is written to both the 
journal and to the data storage device.  SSD journals allow you to avoid 
additional coalesced O_DSYNC sequential writes to the data disk.  In 
some situations this can provide up to a 2X write performance 
improvement on the base tier OSDs.  Cache pool tiering may also provide 
some coalescing of writes to the base pool, but doesn't help you avoid 
the additional journal write penalty on the base tier OSDs.  It does 
however provide the benefit of allowing you to read hot data from the 
cache tier and potentially avoid read/write head seek contention if you 
have spinning disks on the base tier.


Mark
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Re: [ceph-users] Cache pool tiering SSD journal

2015-01-18 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:17:50 AM lidc...@redhat.com wrote:
 No, if you used cache tiering, It is no need to use ssd journal again.


Really? writes are as fast as with ssd journals?
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[ceph-users] Cache pool tiering SSD journal

2015-01-17 Thread Florent MONTHEL
Hi list,

With cache pool tiering (in write back mode) enhancement, should I keep to use 
SSD journal on SSD ?
Can we have 1 big SSD pool for caching for all low cost storage pools ?
Thanks

Florent Monthel





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