RE: Typing test for programming?
I honestly can not remember, it was 1980 with a cassette drive. A year later I had a Commodore 64, such a huge improvement, I had a floppy drive! -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Fred T. Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:28 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Typing test for programming? On June 1, 2005 11:16 am, Ian Skinner scribbled: such a game on my first TSR80. Was that the big grey one or were you lucky enough to get a second generation white one? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2656 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
Ian Skinner wrote: Not for me, you must have had a good cassette player. I remember taking 20-30 minutes to load a fairly simple game. The floppy could do similar much faster, by the standards I was used to. Actually, I was just being facetious. Cassettes were slower, but really that floppy drive was slow. Scott ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2659 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? That's kind of what I was thinking... that's why I didn't take any pause from the request for a typing test. Sure, a lot of companies never ask their programmers to write documentation, but imo any good programmer should be able to write decent documentation with reasonable speed. In an ideal world I suppose we might all have people hired on specifically as technical writers, but I've never worked for a company where that was the case. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2661 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
I've had to do all those things. Although, you could argue that with the use of IDEs (Dreamweaver, for example) that I write very little Straight Code. Still, despite the need for documentation and written communication I would not use a typing test to judge a programmer, because I think there are more important things. At 03:36 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2662 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
One more thought on the documentation thing Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. At 03:36 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2663 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
One more thought on the documentation thing Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. This is true -- and I don't type 100wpm even when I have a copy sitting in front of me... but this also sort of assumes that, once you've decided what to write in your docs that the speed with which you compose that sentence is irrelevant... I don't think so... if you're much like any typical user I've seen with respect to the keyboard, you'll decide what to say pretty quickly, and then take 2 minutes to type what took 10 seconds to conceptualize. If on the other hand you can touch-type at something in the neighborhood of 60wpm, then you can put to paper about twice as much of your brainstorming in about half the time. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2664 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
If it's a software engineering job a typing test should be irrelevant. Interview/testing time is precious and typing speed matters not at all. Check if they have a thinking speed test! If they need to test your typing speed you know that they are not for you! So it actually is a useful indicator of how crazy some employers are. Geoffrey N. Epstein RGB Software Inc 67 Arlington St. Suite 2 Newton, MA 02458 USA ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2665 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. A former boss of mine (a business and tech consultant, one of the smartest folks I've known) was legendary for both his typing and his ability to write long, complex, high-level documents off the top of his head. I personally know that he wrote an entire 500-page technical paper over a weekend -- one run through it, no editing or revision. Handed it into (perfectionist) production before delivery, and they made no changes. No typos, no rephrasing, no reorg, nothing. At roughly 325 words/pg, that's 162,500 words. Assuming two 12-hour days (it was probably less than that), that's about 6,770 words/hour, or about 112 wpm. While composing. He didn't do that every day, and granted, it was material he (obviously) knew really well. Still, I wish I could do that. Dave Merrill ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2666 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
